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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002

posted 03-27-2003 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emfx13   Visit emfx13's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just wanted to see how many chemtrail actavist's are actually on this site, where you stand with the issue'and your theory's?To me the CT CLUB Seem's short on member's?

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-27-2003 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good idea.

I think Chemtrails are real, although I won't go into my details because I've posted them so many times before.

Perhaps I'll send a mass email to the membership alerting them to our new forum...

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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules


Jersey City
1881 posts, Jun 2001

posted 03-27-2003 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Count Gas Man in,
I am about 90% convinced at this time, and as I read the obnoxious posts by the debunkers, it pushes me toward 100%


1) I believe it is for weather control, specifically temperature reduction, as per that all-American psycho, Edward Teller.


The other theories, innoculation, Haarp skipping, and de-population seem less feasible, but I would not count them out. The US government, with embedded Nazis, is certainly capable of those.

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Jeanie
Senior Member

North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 03-27-2003 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a lot of theories to think about, and Gas Man you got that right regarding the governments being capable of doing just about anything. There is a segment of humankind including those in authorative positions who have no conscience when it come to furthering their programs. I believe there are chemtrails over many countries and their purpose is NOT for the betterment of the earth and mankind.

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ScaredForTheFuture
Senior Member


Orange County, CA,USA
162 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-27-2003 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScaredForTheFuture     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanna know what the conspiracy is behind all the apostrophes that wrongly keep appearing in a bunch of people's posts

(That wasn't meant to be mean, I'm just sayin....!)

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Chem11
megasprayer news


The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-27-2003 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My own feeling is that we are observing the intentional seeding of the upper atmosphere with aerosols for various geo-engineering and military projects.

Chief among them, the creation of an 'artificial ionosphere' that will solve the power generation problems inherant in plasma-based techologies (advanced propulsion and visual invisibility systems, for starters).

Exerting some level of control over weather patterns seems another likely objective, as well as surveillance/ counter-surveillance applications.

There's more than one bird that can be stoned when you are talking about emerging aerosol technology.

The sky's the limit... so to speak.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Chem11 on 03-27-2003]

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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE

heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003

posted 03-27-2003 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I belive there definitely spray programs going on and I think military primarily because the planes that I do see do exist on my flight explorer, also I don't believe every contrail to be a chemtrail oh you guys know the drill.

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concerned mom
Senior Member


Palm Springs,CA
39 posts, May 2002

posted 03-27-2003 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for concerned mom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets see;as I feel I am a SANE individual,with great (BUT CAREFUL) reasoning capabilities, I would like dearly to believe it is just a system to counter act our Earth/Sun changes. I know they(CT's)are real because I have been documenting them and their patterns for over a year. I also know that on rediculously heavy ,overcast producing ,"spray(its just a word used for lack of a better)days" The air here is heavy and so is my breathing.Plus the bronchitis that lingers in the community between nonsmokers as well as smokers, is outstanding. I have even asked Doctors and other health care professionals If they have noticed an alarming increse in respiratory ailments, and their answer is always, "why ,YES"with that said I ask myself, What could be so important that "they"(whoever they are) would put our (EVERYONEs') health in danger? Then I ask myself,"Why cant they tell us. most people can handle the truth I think. If it is for our good. Yet In the back of my mindI reflect on historical situations like when madmen have annilated people(i.e. Hitler) as well as important men talking of the need to depopulate the world because of the dangers of overpopulation, and on and on go the wierd theories through my logical brain.So the answer to the question of what I think is the motivation is...I Dont Know! I DO, know that something IS going on. I am 100% sure of it.There are a great number of pieces to this puzzle. Alot of them are already fitting together quite nicely, I just cant make out the picture, YET!

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concerned mom
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Palm Springs,CA
39 posts, May 2002

posted 03-27-2003 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for concerned mom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, I have heard interviews over the radio by a couple individuals that One of the purposes of the Chemtrails is that it is "part" of a highly exotic and advanced "WEAPONS System designed to stop ICBM"S (dont know if I heard those initials accuately)in the boost phase, before they go balistic,(Major Ed Danes) the other relates it to the ability of 3-D imaging ect. (I have the details of both interviews and the backgrounds of those interviewed on cassete, I'll be glad to give exact quotes to those interested) Both Guests did comment on the fact that the chemtrails were in fact "catostrophic to the environment"(Major Danes)And do in fact cause respiratory distress.

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Trail Nix
Senior Member


40 posts, Nov 2002

posted 03-29-2003 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trail Nix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, stepping out my front door and looking up today, I would say that there is no question of belief if one's visual system is intact. There is not a natural cloud in the sky (LA) and hasn't been for days. As to the reasons, I wouldn't know, but I tell people to follow the links and patents and stories and put it together. I have nothing new to add about theories.

I am grateful to have been permitted to join the CT club. Watching the recent posts, I think the general 50 post limit may have the effect of letting the debunkers have their way with the newcomers to the issue. I came to this forum this morning to state that I am about to unlink my site to CTCentral because I don't want early learners to only read debunk posts (front page threads). I will watch for a while longer before I do that.

One more thing, which I will not post except here, is that every hair analysis I have done in the last three years has had high aluminum. Labs which test for barium also find it high, but have no stats on how many years this trend has existed. The problem, as we all know, is that the environment is so polluted that polluters of many kinds can hide behind each other. That doesn't make it right, but it makes our job harder to prove the source when challenged.

Thanks so much for this thread.

Trail Nix

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eyesopen
This Space For Rent

Ventura CA
627 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-29-2003 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyesopen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Believer

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bigjoe
Weather Observer

Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002

posted 03-29-2003 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigjoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's absolutely no doubt that chemtrails exist. It's as simple as looking up at the sky during a heavy "spraying operation". And if one has any doubts after that, simply get a good pair of binocculars and focus in on one of the white "ghost jets" as they lay down their billowing plumes.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-29-2003 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good topic emfx13, I almost posted a new thread here titled "failed experiment?" for our lack of participation in the new forum.

As far as CTs, yes I think they are very real and Chem11's summation pretty much covered my current theories.

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Chem11
megasprayer news


The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 03-30-2003 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Give it time, Florida... this Iraq stupidity is drawing people's attention away from other issues for the time being (and rightfully so).

Traffic at Mega is off around 70% since the invasion began, by way of example.

Heavy aerosol activity yesterday on the gulf coast, as well. The trend seems to have been a marked decline during the build-up, and an apparent return to abnormal once the invasion got underway.

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Jeanie
Senior Member

North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 03-30-2003 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trailnix:::Regarding your hair analysis, have you been instructed how to remove high aluminum and barium from our systems? If so, will you share??? I know someone who was told she was high in barium in my area. I think it's safe to say we all, the earth, animals, lakes, streams, oceans all have the same affliction.

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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules


Jersey City
1881 posts, Jun 2001

posted 03-30-2003 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The antidotes:

Aluminum
Malic Acid

Barium
Sodium Sulphate

Heavy Metals
EDTA, either Oral or intravenous

Wheatgrass Juice every day


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Billy_D
New Member


Hayward, CA, USA
19 posts, Nov 2002

posted 03-30-2003 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Billy_D   Visit Billy_D's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

been a while since ive been on the forum but i have been paying attention out here in hayward CA. every day ( and even more so since this military conflict began) i've noticed heavy spraying. the stuff is so thick you'd think we were launching rockets into the air! last week i witnessed three lines being drawn across the sky within hours of each other; spanning from horizon to horizon. its a non stop daily occurrance and everyone i've pointed it out to seems oblivious to the scene.

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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002

posted 04-01-2003 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emfx13   Visit emfx13's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea the spraying has been heavy over the bay area scince the military conflict began.The thing i have been noticing,the spray is really heavy before a stormfront hit's,this lead's me to believe it is a weather modification program,also i believe that they are spraying to protect us from harmful UV ray's ect.The last 3 day's have been very hot and alot of chemtrail's were sprayed,they have somewhat of a cooling effect i have noticed,i bet without them it would have been twice as hot.The ill/flulike effect's of the spraying reported around the globe i feel is a bi-product of the spraying,i truly don't think it was intended to make us sick?Anyway's that's what i feel is the purpose behind this"INSIDIOUS"spray operation.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 04-01-2003 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a few observations
(1) I have flown from Toronto to San Fransisco at 39000 feet and watched sprayplanes below that elevation working even when there was solid cloud cover the whole distance of the flight
(2) I live in a small coastal community that is 25 miles from other small communities, and watched as the spray only "persists" when the plane is upwind of the community.
(3)I have watched Via Satelitte) the intense gridding and resultant obfuscation of the sky by "something" way out in the Pacific Ocean far from landmass.

Somehow I dont think these things add up to UV protection, but I could be wrong.
The stuff is too low to be ozone remediation.
And often it is in front of and over the top of storm cloud systems.
You may be interested in the discussion of the "save the planet Via Chemspray" located here> http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=7210.topic

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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002

posted 04-01-2003 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emfx13   Visit emfx13's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forgot to add that i could be wrong,these are just the theory's that i lean toward more than the other's.Thanx for the link!

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everetteyes
SARS4UPILOT

Everett WA
126 posts, May 2002

posted 04-01-2003 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for everetteyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
100% sure without a doubt that chemtrails are real.This is not the same sky that I knew as a child.

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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE

heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003

posted 04-01-2003 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the professor   Visit the professor's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine who knows another friend of ours was telling me he saw something on the tele where they were explaining that what the particles are doing is trying to keep even tempatures for global warming, I'll have to get a hold of him and find out what he was watching.

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increase 1776
Senior Member


Oregon
604 posts, Oct 2000

posted 04-01-2003 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for increase 1776     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chemtrails are for real.If something sinister is not at play,why the denial from all govt. agencies?

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roman
Senior Member


Marietta Ohio USA
407 posts, Sep 2000

posted 04-01-2003 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like the outdoors ,I hunt,fish,hike,Play around with Offroad vehicles and Boats.I also like to watch Planes and have done so since I was able to look skyward and ask my Dad what kind it was.I grew up just east of Wright Patterson AFB ,Dad was a veteran of WW 2 and we always had a lot of planes to watch in those days.Dad has been gone for several years now but I have never got over watching the planes.You all are right until just a few years ago Contrails did evaporate !!! roman...

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rainheart
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174 posts, Oct 2001

posted 04-03-2003 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rainheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in!

I've said it before and i'll say it again - contrails are chemtrails, regardless of the intent.

However, I firmly believe that something sinister is going on. the documented evidence is too massive to dismiss this phenomenon as business as usual.

Weather mod, solar shield, star wars, mind control, de-pop, etc.

looking fwd to having some discussions here w/o the usual band of wankers.

rainheart

PS. ALL OUT April 5, to voice your opposition to war and global terror in the name of freedom.

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