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klondike
Senior Member
50 posts, Jun 2002
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posted 07-25-2003 11:31 AM
  
What's up out here in north-central Oregon? The chemicazl coverage has been immense but I haven't seen or heard the spray planes.Is some new delivery medthod being used out here, or all over. Also the chemical mixture seems to have changed from the way the chemclouds hang together. There's a lot of what looks like "smearing" that seems like a news pattern to me. I also noticed the other day after looking at some freshly made trails (didn't see any planes though?) that the trails looked like they were made at a lower altitude than all the other trails I've seen over the years. Anyone notice these things I'm observing? 
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 07-25-2003 05:53 PM
Friday, July 25, 2003, Spokane, WashingtonYes, I have noticed the same phenomenon in our area. The thick trails are there, covering the entire sky, accept for the areas where the wind has blown them elsewhere; however, I have observed very, very few chem-jets. Our area was covered with chemtrails both yesterday and today, beginning very early in the morning.
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bigjoe
Weather Observer
Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 07-26-2003 08:16 AM
Rochester, N.Y. July 26, 9:25 A.M. ET
I've been noticing the same thing here in western New York and have been asking the same questions. And yes, chem clouds definately seem to be at a lower altitude... in many cases the same altitude as the cumulus clouds. In a number of cases over the past few weeks, I've observed some of these aerosol clouds actually move towards, and then envelope the cumulus clouds, then gradually dissolve and dissipate them. This is all totally new to me.
Same story this morning. Woke up to large areas of aerosol clouds overhead, but no signs of the spray planes anywhere. Satellite images reveal lots of spraying taking place over much of New York State at this time, but from my vantage point, no sprayers, and have seen none for the past two weeks or so. We are presently under a partial aerosol overcast.
[Edited 3 times, lastly by bigjoe on 07-26-2003]
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Trail Nix
Senior Member
40 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 07-26-2003 08:59 AM
Perhaps there are new kinds of scalar activity involved. After a very long break in L.A. we have had a week or so of trails and HAARP activity, mostly the latter -- with very strange clouds, indeed. I rarely see the planes, so I cannot report on that, but I think that when there is more moisture (and it has been unusually humid here) a little HAARP goes a long way. In the summer, on humid days, we used to get huge rounded white-against-blue cumulus clouds, but now, out of nowhere come these flat, wispy, herringbone and iron-filing designs. Ah, memories.... Trail Nix
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klondike
Senior Member
50 posts, Jun 2002
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posted 07-26-2003 12:13 PM
If it's happening all over then it's likely something has changed in the nature of the spray operation. Or something has been added.These past two weeks I've had my throat swollen and irritated. Perhaps coincidental; perhaps not. I was alarmed one day, however, when I saw how low the chemtrails were in relation to where they are normally . I continue to watch and observe. And I listen to what others say about their health and vitality. Peace to all.
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quarantine
Senior Member
Portland, OR, USA
77 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 07-29-2003 09:57 AM
I do agree with BigJoe, there appears to be a different kind of delivery system for fake cloud cover. Many of the ragged-edge fake cumulus clouds I see have moving artifacts nearby the cloud, or even detached from it. Could these be signs of microwave, laser or orb generated cloud cover?The other major observation is the chem-fog that never seems to lift the way "real" fog does (did). Since Nov 2002 chen-fog's been persistent on the west coast. Anytime I travel, there it is. The chem-fog settles in from the Pacific Ocean from massive sky chemtrails placed over there, or from huge technoclouds generated there. The likeness of this can be observed from satellite imagery.
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1290 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 07-29-2003 12:14 PM
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The likeness of this can be observed from satellite imagery.
If you can, compare Calif sat images of say 2-4 years ago to recent images and one can clearly observe the build-up down he length of the state. This build up is becoming thicker and never leaves. My area, cleanest air in the state, used to be crystal clear air, now you cannot see clearly at all as the thick blue haze is ever present. In addition, we had a long break of non-spray ending two weeks ago. Now the sky is awash with chem-strings daily, today being no exception. White nasty sky.
Temp yesterday--110 in the shade, chems everywhere.
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bin Rydin
SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 07-29-2003 03:03 PM
We have had very little direct in your face spraying here for several weeks. I saw one sneek in a few lines just offshore a few days ago. We hear them flying out into and back from the pacic sometimes. Most of the activity can be seen on the satelites over the Pacific. Today for example on both visible and "fog" channel. We have been getting the smoke like fog alot, and I have been seeing "aged" trails drift in off the ocean, and yes they mostly have been lower elevation. The higher ones have streeling dragging lines under them "Smearious Clouds"
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 07-29-2003 05:11 PM
Tues. 6PM Just came back from 3 hrs. of kayaking. Just me, the birds, jumping fish, and jet planes. Not one full minute of silence the whole time. Major slop drift over with no end in sight. Am wondering, if the planes belly is painted grey blue and chemilcal formula comes out of the plane invisibly, only to spread out and become visible later, would that account for very few sightings, yet chem crap? Could be...
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Sore Throat
Senior Member
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736 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 07-29-2003 06:10 PM
Tuesday July 29,3003 
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 07-29-2003 08:15 PM
What is it they say? One picture is worth 1,000 words. Let's hang the #@%&*@$#*'s...
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bigjoe
Weather Observer
Western New York
303 posts, Dec 2002
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posted 08-01-2003 12:34 PM
I've been keeping very close track of these satellite images off the west coast too. They just don't let up on this intense spraying, and unfortunately, it appears to be breaking up just about all of the mositure bearing weather systems as they come in off of the Pacific Ocean to bring their much needed rain inland (All one has to do is observe the doppler radar images of the Pacific Ocean just off the west coast to see this). And along with a major effect on the precipitation, this is very probably one of the main reasons why it has been so hot in so many areas of the west this summer.
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graeme
Senior Member
Sebastopol, CA, USA
171 posts, May 2003
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posted 08-01-2003 03:17 PM
I used to live in Sonoma County less than 10 miles from the coast. Almost every morning for the entire winter and spring there would be a huge amount of fake clouds drifting in from over the ocean. Sat on the beach one day and watched for hours as jets far out over the water just went back and fourth, back and fourth. I regret never going to Bodega Harbor to ask any of the fisherman if they were seeing anything odd on their excursions.
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Ellyn
Senior Member
1242 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-01-2003 04:44 PM
Friday, August 1, 2003, Spokane, WashingtonThere has been a definite modification of chemtrail activity in our area also. Today, our area is looking much like Sore Throat's July 29 aerial photo. I have been accustomed to seeing chem-jets spewing out these trails for 3-1/2 years. Now, I continue to observe chemtrail-laden skies, but extremely few chem-jets. Yesterday, our area had a complete chemtrail cover. Today, there are what would appear to many to be normal cumulus clouds; however, I am seeing a mixture of what appear to be cumulus clouds and chemtrails. I am also observing numerous trails expanding into chem-clouds. Just as I was walking into my residence, I observed, much higher up than usual, a chem-jet spewing out a trail. I guess "progress" takes place even in the world of chemtrail creators.
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quarantine
Senior Member
Portland, OR, USA
77 posts, Jul 2003
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posted 08-16-2003 11:51 AM
This message is in response to m3th0d's post in Chemtrail Reports on 8-16-2003. Yes, I too have seen a change in delivery methods for at least the past three months. The picture below details it. 
On 7-14-2003 mid-day over Beaverton OR, lighter trail segments appeared from aircraft, wafted out to cloud cover haze. The bottom trail has an example of "popcorn" clouds, materialized out of blue sky. They seem to interact with the trail by quickly ionizing away to nothing, taking a section of trail "away" with it. A shadow can be seen paralleling these trails indicating a change in ionization state of the surrounding atmosphere. Spraying from any aircraft, commercial or other, seems to occur here for 1 or 2 days every 7 to 10 days. There is a preponderance of "popcorn" clouds that come from obscure places, or from apparent "clear blue sky".
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