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suckingeggs
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posted 08-17-2003 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for suckingeggs   Visit suckingeggs's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I rang Dr Ben Hur and he is a very affable funny guy, still a physicist not an ex one as mentioned by me in the start of this thread. We will have to wait and see what he can provide.

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posted 08-17-2003 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To all here:

Well it seems that I must explain to you all why I have such strong political and religious convictions. First gaiacom is spelled GAIACOMM, which stands for earth communications. I have had the honor to visit many countries on this planet and make many friends some of which are from Islamic faith in Iraq and other countries. Saddam and the USA murdered many during both wars. If any of you have ever lost someone you loved and respected then you can relate. I will not defend my statements made on any other site or any published essay that I have written. I stand by my words completely and without compromise.
I have learned to appreciate life but it took time for me to understand. Now I will protect it. It seems very impersonal to write messages to each other until someone takes down the veil and reveals themselves to us all. Allow me to be the first one to remove my cloak and become visible.
I wish to stay in one forum out of respect for others that wish it so. As stated by others that they will transpose your comments and questions to the other board for response or you can pick up your phone and dial in and talk to a person. I have nothing to hide, do you?

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posted 08-17-2003 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr Ben Hur, if I catch you before you leave for your conference, there have been leaks from people involved in the alleged geoengineering aspect of chemtrails, namely one "Deep Shield", the interview with whom is posted on the Holmstead site and elsewhere. Deep Shield represents himself as committed to ecological purposes, which he claims the aerosol spraying serves.

Does this geoengineering aspect of the aerosol spraying have any autonomy or is it a cover for other purposes closer to the projects in which you have been involved?

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posted 08-18-2003 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mark have you checked out the link that Seeker provided on Judah Ben Hur?

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posted 08-18-2003 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quite an interesting read indeedy.
http://www.jwebs.org/mpn/article.php?thold=-1&mode=flat&order=0&sid=134#35

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gaiacomm
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posted 08-18-2003 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halva:

Anyone that uses secret names like darth vader or dark sheild I would be suspious of. This cloak and dagger stuff are for people who like 007 fantasy or Man from UNCLE worlds. All I know is that in government its like a football league where each team is moving for position to recieve more funding for more projects. The one that gets the most is the leader of the pack. So it is prudent that the right does not know what the left hand is doing!
Let me explain again, I have nothing to hide for myself, my name and who I am, my personal phone number and my email address. I am placing myself and my family in arms way by coming forward in time to dispell rumors and speculators as to the HAARP and Chemtrail connections and their relationships and destructive nature, and how to fix the problem. I was part of the problem now I am the solution. Remember that your Senators and President passed the bills needed to fund these projects with your tax dollars and other sources of income. Continue gathering data and exchange with each other to support the foundation that you all have built over the years to open the eyes of many to these crimes against humanity.
My flight leaves shortly and I will carry my laptop with me. I will be on a military transport to go back east, so I can have communications in flight. I may not be able to respond as quickly for at least 3 days.

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Have a safe trip Dr. Ben-Hur, and hurry home...so you can disclose your information to us.

Originally posted by Dr. Judah Ben-Hur ~

quote:
It is high time I and others like me use
our intellect and technology to stand up against an oppressor and rid
ourselves of this infection.

O Muslims, muster your resolve and hit the embassies of America, England, Australia and Norway, their interests, their companies and their employees ... Set the ground ablaze under their feet... Kick these criminals out of your homelands.


If you want to get a rise out of the DRAGON then you must go into the cave where it is and kill its food supply and its offspring while it sleeps or is out of the cave searching and destroying other villages.

Once the dragon is dead then your homelands will once again belong to whoever ALLAH has given it to.

Remember, you will NEVER conquer any of these lands until you slay the dragon!

In the holy name of ALLAH I ask of you all, the ones that REALLY are not AFRAID to DIE to join a new coalition of individuals whose mission is one that I have been writing on.

A Jihad on a global scale is required without fear of death from all peoples that share this common thread of FREEDOM. I for one am willing to give up my life so that others may drink the cup of life.

The United States of America is in its last days like a bull in the ring with the matador right before the sword is plunged.

We scientists have been used by many corporations and governments and I guess the creation has now decided to turn on its creator.

My people sometimes call me an Inman for whatever reason, but I promise you without fear of death I will use whatever means at my disposal to vanquish any oppressor that causes any pain to any religious group, PERIOD!

I am not a terrorist but a scientist who has technology at his disposal that is far superior to any B-52 or any other so-called weapon.

The advantage I have as stated earlier, is I have assets, technology, secrets, and a willingness to be put to death during the struggle.


Originally posted by Jason Knight ~

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You have been reported to the FBI and the Office of Homeland Security for you comments at http://www.jwebs.org/mpn/article.php?sid=134. Hopefully they will revoke your affiliate status with the Homeland Security office. Yeah I know you have freedom of speech to say what you want but I have the freedom to report you also.

http://www.jwebs.org/mpn/article.php?thold=-1&mode=flat&order=0&sid=134#35

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gaiacomm
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posted 08-18-2003 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lulu:

Now go to www.gaiacomm.org and read more. The website is back online.

Oh yes I stand by my words, period!

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posted 08-18-2003 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kind of jives with the above slaying the dragon bit, don't ya think?

quote:
It is Gaiacomm’s explicitly stated aim to pursue ourselves as a “Technology for Peace” by allowing all countries, worldwide, the ability to provide a complete communications infrastructure for their citizens at an affordable cost and seeing the humanity the world over effectively communicating with each other. This communication will start the process of information exchange in real time and allow the spirits of enlightened thinkers to devote themselves into other areas of intellectual and technical enquiry.

This process will in turn undoubtedly promote peace and goodwill by encouraging a transparent exchange of communications.


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posted 08-18-2003 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your response Dr. Ben Hur and I look forward to seeing the next communication from you.

Unfortunately you didn't enlighten me in the reply you gave to my questions about Deep Shield. I still don't know how much, if any, substance and/or autonomy the geoengineering aspect of the chemtrails phenomenon has. You say the policy is not to let the right hand know what the left hand is doing and I could believe that may well be true. I will also acknowledge that you are possibly braver than "Deep Shield" but you do not strike me as being wiser if it is true that you call yourself the King of Judea. Are you not embarrassed by the revelation of that link?

If you have the leisure to study the Deep Shield link
http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/shieldproject.html

and provide some more comment, anything you say will be of interest at least to me, notwithstanding all the other information about you that is coming to light.

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posted 08-18-2003 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good detective work Catnip!

quote:
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur
Replace The US Government!
Thu Jul 24 20:19:27 2003
67.123.40.38

To all who read and understand:

It is time to take the next step in understanding. After careful and meticulous research, that includes access to files and data that are guarded by the United States Government and its showroom dummies. I have uncovered information that has been written about, talked about, read about, and in many cases silenced to protect and to confuse those who wish to uncover its not so guarded secrets.

Careful and planned exposure of this information seems to be the only way to begin the process of enlightenment of not just the American people but all peoples of this tiny planet that are considered the “Common Man/Women”.

We cannot blame the “United States Government” for our woes, but ourselves for allowing our own Constitution to manipulate and control not just us but others in its path towards imperial rule, which by the way was why some people left England to come to the Americas to rid themselves of that tyranny.

True Democracy does not impede growth or dominate others. It was established to be a beacon for those who wish to call on its existence and only that. We do not have the right to impose Democracy on nations or peoples who do not truly ask for it.

The United States in its own rights is a terrorist country with Bin-Laden’s and others like him who are imposing pseudo democratic policies and through crafty methods controlling without regard to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness! Regime change within the United States should be seriously considered.



http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/7-24-03/discussion.cgi.7.html


quote:
Declaration of Independence from the United States of America
Added : (Mon Jul 21 2003)
Liberation begins with you all!

I will most likely be one of the first to die in this conflict! However, I know that when that happens I know that someone else will pick up the sword and continue the fight for FREEDOM!

The United States of America is the head of the snake. And when the head of a snake is cut off the tail will die!

It is now time for us all to begin the liberation process to freedom and break the chains that control us all and replace the government of the United States with one that is by the people and for the people. Every attempt will be made to keep this movement bloodless. However, if blood and sacrifice is the only way then let it be so. As a Physicist, I have direct access to technology military weapons systems, and all other forms of technology that can be switched off or destroyed.
There exist a small but growing number of scientists and engineers that are willing to use their intelligence to begin the movement on the road to freedom. They are Christians, Muslims, Jewish, Buddhists, Hindu, and many other religious belief systems.
We need to get the word out to the world that there is a serious movement in America that will quickly work towards replacing the entire system of Government in the United States with one that will work for the people.



http://www.pressbox.co.uk/Detailed/8164.html

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posted 08-18-2003 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But wait, there's more! You have been very busy Mr. Ben-Hur! Where/how does chemtrails and HAARP figure into this regime change?

quote:
Rise up and be counted not by your leaders but by your peers within your group. Form a coalition of peoples that will standup to the Regimes that control us and replace them completely with one that is truly governed and managed by the people and for the people.

When we all stand up against the regime it will shout loud, but will soon get tired of its voice, then we take our trumpets and march in the streets and blow them until the walls of despair and control come crumbling down around us.



http://www.quicktopic.com/20/H/fi475NKes8J3s


Call for a Regime Change in Washington http://www.diggers.org/freecitynews/_disc1/0000007b.htm


quote:
I am a Magi (Magus) an ancient religion that I am part of. My family originally came from Sudan migrated to Judea sold into slavery to Britain and came to America on slave ships and other ways, we then mixed thru consent and rape with the American Indian and European settlers so now I am a product of consent and rape from various nations.

I am a Physicist that has developed weapons of mass destruction, wireless communications, stealthing technology, biometrics, electric power generation systems, and other arcane technology systems. All of this is presented to all who wish to learn and understand its secrets. The United States of America will not interfere because others and I know where her secrets are hidden and now we have decided to die for our cause and being a martyr is not what the USA wants or do we.

The one little piece of the puzzle that nations other than the United States and her bribed allies don’t have is access to technology that can defend and destroy an oppressor.

Now readers it is available only to those who understand the risks and rewards of having that type power at your fingertips, more powerful than any B-52 or Nuclear weapon or even thousands of ground troops, submarines or whatever.

The Ark of the Covenant was a most interesting weapons system but could only be used by those who were in favor with God.



http://www.ephilosopher.com/phpBB_14-action-viewtopic-topic-164-start-0.html

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gaiacomm
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posted 08-18-2003 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anyone of you would like to know more just pick up the phone and call me at 1.310.213.1997. Or is that too intense? That would spoil the fun! Its too easy!
Maybe we all like to hide in cyberspace and pretend. How many of you have exchanged phone numbers to talk? Maybe we need to start trusting. Let me be the first to extend my hand!

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posted 08-18-2003 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It gets even better folks!

quote:
On Aug. 16, the CEO of a California wireless technology-maker e-mailed Saddam to request a meeting. According to the CEO's message, the two could discuss "technology improvements and exporting of rich technology abroad."

In a press release dated Sept. 13, the company said it has developed "4G" wireless technology capable of being used "as a weapon to ignite large sections of the atmosphere and incinerate all living creatures within its pre-selected coordinates." The press release also called for the resignation of President Bush.


GAIACOMM CORPORATION is appalled and furiously angered by this terrorist and his accomplices... How can words express sympathy for these families left behind? Honestly, they cannot. However, GAIACOMM CORPORATION declares this day to all the families and relatives that its 4G wireless technology is going to be modified to become an anchor in the defense of America, so that terrorism can be halted. We dedicate our technology as a Technology for Peace in this decade.

Let it be known this day that we are modifying the Gaiacomm technology to become an arcane military incineration weapon, and its use is to thwart all terrorists who even hint of posing a threat to America or her allies.


But that was then... and more recently they've tried to pawn off their death ray to China, Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Palestine, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Israel.

And in case there was any misunderstanding, "We are not terrorists but scientists attempting to use our technology for peace but if backed into a corner willing to use it to whatever means to get our point across."
http://www.crazysaddam.com/archives/00000028.shtml

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posted 08-18-2003 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for msswv123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gaiacomm Corporation

Technology Summary

Project Nemo

(A Gaiacomm Corporation Technology Document)


Authored by:

Judah Ben-Hur
Founder & President of Gaiacomm


Table of Contents

-What is Gaiacomm

-Gaiacomm Technology
• Magnetic Booster
• Excitation by magneto spherical sources
• ELF and Band Designators
-Journey to Understanding the Technology
-Pioneering Work of Nikola Tesla

-The Navy’s ELF Communication System

-What makes Gaiacomm different?

-An Antenna with Anomalous Radiation Properties

-Current Submarine Communications

-Executive Order

-Gaiacomm Executive Report

-Desired HF Heater/Antenna Characteristics

-Effective-Radiated-Powers (ERP

-Broad HF Frequency Range

-Scanning Capabilities

-Polarization

-Agility in Changing Heater/Antenna Parameters

-HF Heater/Antenna Location

-Estimated Costs of the two HF Heating/Antenna Facilities

-Program Participants

-Gaiacomm Technology (Revisited• Introduction
• Potential Applications
• Ionosphere issues associated with High Power RF Heating
• Desired HF Heating/Antenna Facility
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(Generation of geomagnetic-field aligned ionization to control the reflection/scattering properties of radio waves will result in a number of outcomes. It will jam unwanted signals, make data stealth, and focus RF signals to localized areas to selectively ignite the surrounding atmosphere, which will create a flash burn effect. This effect will incinerate all air and ground living and non-living entities. In short, a military weapon of unprecedented proportions with no nuclear radiation generated aftereffects. This device can use the surrounding atmospheric layers to burn off everything in its path without firing a single shot. Localizing atmospheric area techniques to selected targeted areas can also be accomplished with this heating process. In short, using the Compton effect to alter the air to ground electric charge. This is even more effective than EMP during a nuclear blast.)

• Oblique heating to produce effects on radio wave propagation at great distances from a HF heater, thus is broadening the potential military applications of Ionosphere enhancement technology and commercial 4G wireless communications.

• Generation of ionization layers below 90 km to provide, radio wave reflectors (mirrors), which can be exploited for long range, over-the-horizon, HF/VHF/UHF surveillance purposes, including the detection of cruise missiles and other low observable in addition the allowance of global broadband access on a wireless network by worldwide consumers, i.e. voice, data, video, email, and all unmentioned forms of data exchange.

Desired HF Heater/Antenna Characteristics

A new, unique, HF heating/antenna facility is required to address the broad range of issues identified above. However, in order to have a useful facility at various stages of its development, it is important that the heater/antenna be constructed in a modular manner, such that its effective-radiated-power can be increased in an efficient, cost effective manner as resources become available.

Effective-Radiated-Powers (ERP) in Excess of one Gigawatt

One gigawatt of effective-radiated-power represents an important threshold power level, over which significant wave generation and electron acceleration efficiencies can be achieved, and other significant heating effects can be expected. The power will come from natural gas reserves in the earths crust generated by a generation process supplied by an independent developer of that technology.

Broad HF Frequency Range

The desired heater/antenna would have a frequency range from around one tetra-gigaHertz to about 30 tetra-gigaHertz, thereby allowing a wide range of Ionsopheric processes to be investigated.

Scanning Capabilities

A heater/antenna that has rapid scanning capabilities is very desirable to enlarge the size of heated regions in the ionosphere Continuous Wave (CW) and Pulse Modes of Operation. Flexibility in choosing heating modes of operation will allow a wider variety of Ionospheric enhancement techniques and issues to be addressed.

Polarization

The facility should permit both X and O polarization in order to study Ionospheric processes over a range of altitudes.

Agility in Changing Heater/Antenna Parameters

The ability to quickly change the heater/antenna parameters is important for addressing such issues as enlarging the size of the heated region the ionosphere and the development of techniques to insure that the energy densities desired in the ionosphere can be delivered without self-limiting effects setting-in.

HF Heating/Antenna Diagnostics

In order to understand natural Ionospheric processes as well as those induced through active modification of the ionosphere, adequate instrumentation is required to measure a wide range of Ionospheric parameters on the appropriate-temporal and spatial scales. A key diagnostic these measurements will be an incoherent scatter radar facility to provide the means to monitor such background plasma conditions as electron densities, electron and ion temperatures, and electric fields, all as a function of altitude. The incoherent scatter radar facility, will have to be built with a tower and support equipment in two locations to allow transmit and receive end results.

For ELF generation experiments, the diagnostics complement would include two ELF receivers, a digital HF ionosonde, a magnetometer, photometers, a VLF sounder, and a VHF Rio meter. In other experiments, in site measurements of the heated region in the ionosphere, via rocket-borne instrumentation, would also be very desirable. Other diagnostics to be employed, depending on the nature of the Ionospheric modifications being implemented, will include HF receivers, HF/VHF radars, optical imagers, and scintillation observations designed by Gaiacomm engineers.

HF Heater/Antenna Location

One of the major issues to be addressed under the project is the generation of ELF waves in the ionosphere by HF heating. This requires locating the heater/antenna where there are strong Ionospheric currents, either at an equatorial location or a high latitude (auroral) location. Additional factors to be considered in locating the heater/antenna include other technical (research) needs and requirements, environmental issues, future expansion capabilities (real estate), infrastructure, and considerations of the availability and location of diagnostics. The location of the new HF heating/antenna facility is planned for Australia.

In addition, it is desirable that the HF heater/antenna be located to permit rocket probe instrumentation to be flown into the heated region of the ionosphere. The exact location in Australia for the proposed new HF heating/antenna facility has not yet been determined.

Estimated Cost of the two New HF Heating/Antenna Facilities

It is estimated that six to nine million dollars ($6-9 M) will provide a new facility with an effective-radiated-power and with considerable improvements in the ability to tune frequencies and antenna-beam steering capability. The facility will be of modular design to permit efficient and cost-effective upgrades in power as additional funds become available. The desired (world-class) facility, having the broad capabilities and flexibility described above, will cost about twenty-five to thirty million dollars ($25-30M).

Program Participants

The Navy and the Air Force should jointly assist managing the project. However, because of the wide variety of issues to be addressed, active participation of the government agencies, universities, and private contractors is envisioned.

GAIACOMM TECHNOLOGY REVISITED

The Gaiacomm 4G technology is especially attractive in that it will insure that research in an emerging, revolutionary, technological area will be focused towards identifying and exploiting techniques to greatly enhance global wireless communications and C 4 I Command, Control, Communications, Computers and Intelligence capabilities. The heart of the program will be the development of a unique Ionospheric heating capability to conduct the pioneering experiments required to adequately assess the potential for exploiting Ionospheric enhancement technology for the DOD (Dept. of Defense) and the commercial wireless communications infrastructure. As outlined below, such a research facility will provide the means for investigating the creation, maintenance, and control of a large number and wide variety of Ionospheric processes that, if exploited, could provide significant operational capabilities and advantages over conventional commercial 3G wireless and C 4 I Command, Control, Communications, Computers and Intelligence systems. The research to be conducted in the program will include basic, exploratory, and applied efforts.

1. Introduction

DOD agencies already have on-going efforts in the broad area of active Ionospheric experiments, including Ionospheric enhancements. These include both space- and ground-based approaches. The space-based efforts include chemical releases (e.g., the Air Force's Brazilian Ionospheric Modification Experiment, BIME; the Navy's RED AIR program; and multi-agency participation in the Combined Release and Radiation Effects Satellite, CRRES). In addition, other planned programs will employ particle beams and accelerators aboard rockets (e.g., EXCEDE and CHARGE IV), and shuttle- or satellite-borne RF transmitters (e.g., WISP and ACTIVE). Ground-based techniques employ the use of high power, radio frequency (RF) transmitters (so-called "heaters") to provide the energy in the ionosphere that causes it to be altered or enhanced. The use of such heaters/antennas has a number of advantages over space-based approaches
snip... http://www.gaiacomm.org/Gaiacomm%20Exhibit%20A%20-.htm

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I wonder if GAIACOMM plans on slaying the dragon with their 4G technology??

Anyone else feel a little nervous?

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POSTED BY DEBORAH on August 17 @ 1:03pm CDT

Dr. Ben-Hur wrote:

.....First I would read my White Paper, titled The Art of Global Wireless Communications to introduce you to the system and for what purpose it will be used.....


Dr. Ben-Hur, is Project NEMO [referenced below] what you are referring to in the above-excerpted statement?

1 September 2002
Gaiacomm: Freedom of Speech http://www.prweb.com/releases/2002/9/prweb45456.php

Excerpt from "Gaiacomm: A Letter to the State of Israel":

.....We are a little known group of scientists here in the United States that recognizes Israel's fate from having access to information that is only at the highest levels of government because Americans cannot keep their mouths shut and love to talk and so we listen and learn.

We have allowed ourselves to be at the bottom of the scientific barrel of ideas and invention to work in peace. Now we have surfaced with a technology base that is far superior in principle and in physical attributes.

In our publication titled: Project Nemo we attempt to disclose a technology that can in theory and in principle function and function well.

We are attempting to offer this technology in exchange for allowing us to develop and deploy this technology in its full form. Its form is a global wireless communications System and a weapons system technology that incinerates its opponents from a distance.

The Bush Administration has had time to review and comment on it, but as usual, the USA does not take war and innovation seriously anymore. Just view the USA scandal front and corporate downfalls..... END Excerpt.


In other words, is "Project NEMO" the subject matter of your White Paper?

Thank you,
Deborah

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Dr. Ben-Hur, when you get a minute could you please answer the above-posted question?

Thank you.

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To: All Members and Guests

I can read from the various posts that my presence on this board is not appreciated. And I can understand everyone’s point of view. Sometimes we make mistakes and learn from them. I made a mistake by posting on this board. I am not an authority on chemtrails but I am on HAARP and Gaiacomm and many other related projects. You can see from the selections of data that has been posted that I am a very busy person. Once you convince the CIA, FBI, NSA, DOD, NASA, The White House and many other agencies to give you data on me you might be surprised that I was just trying to help. I gave you all my phone number and encouraged anyone to call.
Operations for Gaiacomm will be moving to Jacksonville, Florida and I will be overseeing and building another HAARP system to be demonstrated to the Military and other commercial users. This will be sometime in the early part of next year. Just in time for the re-election campaigns. The Gaiacomm website will be changing in a day or two to reflect staff changes and other info. Funding is complete and we are set. I will propose to demo and bring attention to chemtrails while in Washington next week.
As you can see by the various media releases that the US government allows me to ramble on. I appreciate those that took the time to contact me direct and as promised I will expose and educate the public of all of your concerns and I will demand that the chemtrails will cease. I will trade something for that. Then we will present preventive methods to be used while we use our system to rid the atmosphere of these poisons.
I will refrain from posting here anymore so as not to offend or confuse anyone.
Note:
When you have 30 years of secrets it just does not make sense to shotgun info into space.
I tried and I will seek another method to get rid of this burden. I wish you all the best and I respect you all!

Sincerely,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
272 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-19-2003 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wolfwomen:

You are right, why should I let a few that like to turn up a little mud in the pond bother me? I usually ask myself in times of intense decisions, What would Jesus do? And because you came forward and said that you understand, and it only takes one! I will do what I can to help this group get answers and corrections to these chemtrails and other manmade mistakes that are affecting us all. And Lorie I know in your heart you mean well, and its ok to be you!
A phone number that can be used is on the gaiacomm website. There are allot of sick people that need to be healed and forgiven, I will do my best to help. So I resend my former statement and I will help. Give it some time to unfold. Allot of people are already taking notice, just look at all of the statements and essays I have written! There is a storm coming!


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----- Original Message -----
From: "wolfwoman454"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 21:36
Subject: Thank you, Dr Ben-Hur


> I'm a member of ChemTrailTrackingUSA, but I never post to forums
> like that just as a personal preference. However, I believe what
> you say and would like to thank you for trying to help them. You
> know, with a lot of folks, you are just "casting your pearls before
> swine."
>
> I'd like to apologize for these people's rudeness toward you.
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Beth
>
>

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Lulu
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2457 posts, Dec 2000

posted 08-19-2003 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you won't even answer Deborah's legitimate question concerning Project NEMO, even though that is your "specialty". What a lame cop out Dr. Judah Ben-Hur. A total fraud you turned out to be. Not surprised really...it was only a matter of time before the intelligent members here exposed you. There are plenty of other forums and message boards for you to play your mind games on, enough to keep you entertained for a very long time.

Originally posted by Dr. Judah Ben-Hur ~

quote:
Maybe we all like to hide in cyberspace and pretend.

Well, maybe you do.

Press on...

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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Canberra Australia
183 posts, Apr 2003

posted 08-19-2003 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wasent project nemo that fish from that new disney movie ;0)

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suckingeggs
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281 posts, Mar 2003

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Your last comment Doctor about the Storm coming is what you have promised to share with the chemtrail network, you have promised that you will not let the chemtrail activists down. Yet you are balking at the first hurdle.

So far you have been faced with your own words in cyberspace and have had to handle some personal remarks...well you need to get used to that, most of the activists have had a lot more and some have been personally threatened with attack and death threats. So If you are genuine and your heart is in the right place, then you must come forward with the information and forget that name calling will never hurt you.

If you are a fake, then I feel very sorry for you and wish you had not bothered us with wasting our time, we have enough to do raising awareness and finding the minutaie of information. THIS IS NOT SOME JOKE OR A GAME or a FANTASY being played out by the TRUE activist. To some of us this is life and death.

Sticks and stones will break my bones, name will never hurt me. So loose the ego and share your info.

Mark

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
272 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-19-2003 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pondurega:

I appreciate your kind words of support and I will finish what I started and help you all get peace of mind!
I spoke with a kind lady on the phone that is part of this group and we had our first date! She is very smart!
I gave her some insight on chemtrails and the dumping of "trash" in the upper layers. I also agreed with her to publish a report titled" HAARP for Dummies" to explain the inner workings of the system. I also told her that I have been charged with the responsibility to design and construct another HAARP facility in Florida next year.
Phone does work!

Regards

Dr. Judah Ben-Hur

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----- Original Message -----
From: Pondurenga Das
To: chemtrailtrackingusa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 23:30
Subject: Re: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] Re: Dr. Judah Ben-Hur's message to Chemtrail Ce...


brightnewwings@aol.com wrote:

> Everyone should really pay attention to what Gale is saying. She has
> hit the
> nail on the proverbial head. The reason I was saying back off the Doc
> was so
> he could show himself. He has.
>
> Laura
>
Please be kind. Bright, rebelious people, both young and old, can
become paranoid, delusionary and unstable under the pressure of living
in our American culture of greed fear and violence.

"Dr. Ben-Hur" clearly has tremendous mental capacities. Just notice how
he overwhelmed and dominated our group for a time. Imagine this shining
brilliance applied constructively, and release your compassion toward
the confused, tormented person who just passed thru our lives like a
burning meteor. This man seems to be one of the many good-hearted human
beings who are unable to deal effectively with the world into which they
were born. I send him my love and my blessings.

ChemTrail is a tremendously resilient group. Let us forgive and move on.

Love & Blessings,
Pondurenga

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halva
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475 posts, Dec 2002

posted 08-19-2003 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lulu I think your reactions are inappropriate at this time. We have apparently found out certain things about Dr Judah Ben Hur but we don't gain anything if decides to stop posting here.

We have not discovered that he is a phony.

However, like Deborah and suckingeggs, I would appreciate specific answers to the specific questions asked.

Apart from asking for comments on the Deep Shield article I have asked if he was not embarrassed at the King of Judea revelation.

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
272 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-19-2003 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Members:

Lets all break bread together! Lets do this, before I publish my report, "HAARP for Dummies" I ask that one person be the focal point for all to send questions to for me to answer if I can. If I cannot answer I will find the ones that can. If you all can compile your questions and send them to a spokeperson to then send them to me then I will respond. Ask away and for those who wish their answers to be quick, then pick up the phone and dial me direct. Don't be afraid of the dark! Remember it will be a first date this time!

I am waiting!

Regards,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur


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