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gaiacomm
Senior Member


Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-19-2003 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The class is starting on the other board, don't be late...alot of reading,,,some 15,000 pages of data to educate on HAARP, but we must start with 101 courses first.

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member


Canberra Australia
183 posts, Apr 2003

posted 08-19-2003 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about leaving and never returning that would be nice of you.
The website isnt called Harrpcentral.com is it now?

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-19-2003 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And miss all the fun? Well 20,000 pages of data some of which will be classified would seem to me a find! Now read the 300 plus and figure which ones are classified?
Anyway I see that you need more experience in the world at large and yes HAARP will dominate this site because I have the answers to chemtrails!
Sit back and enjoy the ride! This is just the beginning, rememeber you asked for the truth!

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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Canberra Australia
183 posts, Apr 2003

posted 08-19-2003 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i never asked for anything i never belived you anyway.
LoL

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-19-2003 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know its so refreshing to know that there exists people like you!

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halva
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Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002

posted 08-20-2003 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your recent posts have been inscrutable, Conspiracy Man. Just what is going on in your mind?

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member


Canberra Australia
183 posts, Apr 2003

posted 08-20-2003 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whats going thore my mind.
well for a start he slanders my post for copying but then he does the same thing.
so his just a hypocrite and a lyer anyway.
Also halva do you even know what the word inscrutable means?

Inscrutable:
Unsearchable incapable of being searched into and understood by inquiry or study; impossible or difficult to be explained or accounted for satisfactorily; obscure; incomprehensible; as, an inscrutable design or event.

Exsample: 'T is not in man To yield a reason for the will of Heaven Which is inscrutable. --Beau. & Fl.

Next time could you please use the word in a sentance that accutuly makes sense instead of pretending to be smart and saying big words that you dont even know the meaning of.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by CONSPIRACY_MAN on 08-20-2003]

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-20-2003 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guy, your missing all the fun! some 400 pages or more of data is waiting for you. I see you like to play in the mud!
Well Come on up and learn, I just got started. I will let this info set then I will pile another 500 pages or less.
Oh by the way I now have 865 emails today and 72 phone calls as of 0000 pst.
Thanks for your suuport!

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Lulu
ice behaving badly


right here
2459 posts, Dec 2000

posted 08-20-2003 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Email Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>Oh by the way I now have 865 emails today<<

Yeah, but how many of those are SPAM??

BTW, Dr. Judah Ben-Hur...I noticed that you gave the exact same "farewell" speech at CTTUSA as you did here...word for word...why is that??

quote:
From: "Gaiacomm Corporation"
Date: Tue Aug 19, 2003 4:23 am
Subject: Re: [Chem Trail Tracking USA] Re: OT - Something Strange....

To: All Members and Guests

I can read from the various posts that my presence on this board is not
appreciated. And I can understand everyone’s point of view. Sometimes we
make mistakes and learn from them. I made a mistake by posting on this board
I am not an authority on chemtrails but I am on HAARP and Gaiacomm and many
other related projects. You can see from the selections of data that has
been posted that I am a very busy person. Once you convince the CIA, FBI,
NSA, DOD, NASA, The White House and many other agencies to give you data on
me you might be surprised that I was just trying to help. I gave you all my
phone number and encouraged anyone to call.
Operations for Gaiacomm will be moving to Jacksonville, Florida and I will
be overseeing and building another HAARP system to be demonstrated to the
Military and other commercial users. This will be sometime in the early part
of next year. Just in time for the re-election campaigns. The Gaiacomm
website will be changing in a day or two to reflect staff changes and other
info. Funding is complete and we are set. I will propose to demo and bring
attention to chemtrails while in Washington next week.
As you can see by the various media releases that the US government allows
me to ramble on. I appreciate those that took the time to contact me direct
and as promised I will expose and educate the public of all of your concerns
and I will demand that the chemtrails will cease. I will trade something for
that. Then we will present preventive methods to be used while we use our
system to rid the atmosphere of these poisons.
I will refrain from posting here anymore so as not to offend or confuse
anyone.
Note:
When you have 30 years of secrets it just does not make sense to shotgun
info into space.
I tried and I will seek another method to get rid of this burden. I wish you
all the best and I respect you all!

Sincerely,
Dr. Judah Ben-Hur



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chemtrailtrackingusa/message/98701

And here ~
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001899-2.html

Still waiting for you to drop the bomb...


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halva
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Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002

posted 08-20-2003 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conspiracy man, I used the word inscrutable out of politeness and so that Lulu could not say that I am being rude and derisive towards another member.

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-20-2003 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LULU:

Because I cut and pasted it there!

LULU: I am surprised that you of all people who has built a reputation on this board as one who is a light bearer and yet when you feel that your supreme authority is being threatened by one who only wishes to help then move on is quite interesting.
You have done an outstanding job in establishing a forum for people to exchange experiences and opinions. And your regulatory ethics are in line with balance.
When I have given all that I can I will leave this forum with knowing that I tried!
If we spend our precious time ranting at each other for silly mistakes or point fingers out of fear and doubt, then you have not accomplished your goal to present an open honest exchange of information that can change lives and save lives.
I respect what you have done here and all I wish to do is honestly help. It may be difficult for you to understand but I am on your side and all others here and I wish no harm to anyone!
Allow me in my time to finish what I promised!

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-20-2003 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LULU:

Yes I forgot, 1203 emails from members of this board and others. 112 phone calls.

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-20-2003 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


August 20, 2003

To: Dr. Ben-Hur
From: John Morgan
Subject: National Security issues

Judah, it has come to my attention that once again you have been attempting to disclose information of a propriety nature to a public forum that has a reputation for questionable authenticity in content. I have been instructed to ask you on behalf of the White House Senior staff and other agencies involved, out of professional curiosity and National Security to cease and desist from disclosing vital information on the project called HAARP and any other vital information that you have direct access to.

We are prepared to re-issue your security clearance, which of course will legally prevent you from further disclosure of information relative to your expertise.

We respect your experience and find you a vital part of our inner circle.

We also are aware of Gaiacomm and its threat to disclose technology that is vital for our National Defense.

Please reconsider our offer and let us know of your decision thru the appropriate channels.

Once a decision has been reached we will offer you complete invisibility from seeking eyes.

Cc: 349.3345849

National Security Agency, Office of Research and Technology Application - R, 9800
Savage Road, Fort George G. Meade, Maryland 20755-6000.

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halva
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Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002

posted 08-20-2003 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re the telephone calls: I have not telephoned you because I disagree with political views you have expressed and I would not like to see these views influencing any political decisions by members of this forum. But if what you are doing now is genuine I would like to see it continuing.

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ScaredForTheFuture
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Orange County, CA,USA
91 posts, Jan 2003

posted 08-20-2003 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScaredForTheFuture     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why doesn't this guy just shut up about defending himself and start posting facts?

Seems simple enough.

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CONSPIRACY_MAN
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Canberra Australia
183 posts, Apr 2003

posted 08-20-2003 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CONSPIRACY_MAN   Visit CONSPIRACY_MAN's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe its beacuase he doesnt know any facts.

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
493 posts, Nov 2001

posted 08-20-2003 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gaiacomm; I don't mind telling you many are highly suspicious of you. IF you were revealing secret info. not intended for the public, you'd be six feet under once the gov got wind of it... If you have any connection with HAARP, regards building another one in Florida, DON'T. Enough damage has been done to us and the environment.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Jeanie on 08-20-2003]

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-20-2003 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The phone calls from you members are not for my politics but for questions on HAARP and other related subjects. The emails are the same. They have decided to go direct rather than to wade in the mud here and have it thrown in the face. 145 calls and over 1100 emails to date.
Would you give your child a gun without first training of its uses, safety and mis -uses first?
You all want blood but you don't eant to know how it started. And NO, I will not be murdered because I created weapons and some of the same technology that drops in and views us all!

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3953 posts, Sep 2002

posted 08-20-2003 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I give Ben-Hur a "chance to redeem himself"..after all...

I once worked for the globalists/illuminati in the U.S. military, but sooner or later I wised up and realize that I wasn't defending the Constitution...no..just a small handfull of elitsits global interests that had nothing to do with freedom or liberty.


Keep posting Ben..Some of us are paying attention.

I think most of us here are mature enough to know the difference between someone trying for "cult status" and those whot truly want to fight the "New World Order".

We are all in this fight together.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 08-20-2003]

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
493 posts, Nov 2001

posted 08-20-2003 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"NO, I will not be murdered because I created weapons and some of the same technology that drops in and views us all!"

Don't you know that no one is indispensible in the eyes of all govt's? Check out the "suicides" of numerous micro-biologists.

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Mech
Resisting the NWO


Northeast USA
3953 posts, Sep 2002

posted 08-20-2003 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech   Visit Mech's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WMD expert David Kelly's death certainly wasn't a "suicide".

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-20-2003 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes walking thru a forest you may get a small stone in your shoe, you can either walk with it and put up with the increasing pain or you can stop for a moment and remove the stone and continue the walk with no pain!
I have technology and I am for the eventual destruction of the established order that controls us and lies to us each and every day of our lives. We are humans and you need answers of chemtrails and HAARP and you need them soon! What we will do together is present hard evidence by way of hardware that can demo weather mod, chemtrails, and other concerns that need resolve.
Many of you are suffering every day; people you know and don't know are in death arms because of manmade weapons that creep in the night. Aliens that do all sorts of things to your bodies have abducted some. And the Government will not answer or admit to these abductions and other UFO sightings.
But together we can standup and not only demand but also demo what they have. That is what I will provide in addition to info that can be used to enlighten.
Have Faith in yourselves first then we can take back what was stolen from us all! Our Dignity!

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halva
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Greece
477 posts, Dec 2002

posted 08-20-2003 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Email halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeanie he must be able to judge more accurately than we can if he is likely to be murdered. Like Mech I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment and see where this initiative leads.

Other than being witnesses to this experiment I don't see what form of collaboration we can have, though, with Dr. Judah Ben Hur.

Perhaps some of those who have phoned him have some ideas. Mark, for example. Anyone else who phoned him want to say anything?

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gaiacomm
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Los Angeles, California, USA
274 posts, Aug 2003

posted 08-21-2003 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gaiacomm   Email gaiacomm   Visit gaiacomm's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Honored Members:

The recent posts that I have submitted are done with the intent of first informing those of you that were never aware of the United Nations charter or the Paris Convention, or NSA security guidelines and other information that I felt would be a precursor to disclosing the core of the HAARP and its co-relationship with Chemtrails.
Some of you may find that this information is redundant but if you really read thru it you will find that you will need to understand the rules before you present. For example if you are going to expose chemtrails the best forum would be the UN to gain some attention. Well you need to study its rules so that you can make decisions based on knowledge and not have the dependencies on others that may not have your best interests at heart.
UFO’s and abductions, these are NSA issues and you need to understand how NSA operates. Some of this information may seem not important to you now, but I assure you that there are others that view this website that may not know. In Intelligence gathering you cannot make a mistake and you never compromise!
There are many of you that have been directly affected by chemtrails and many of you have been abducted by beings from either another part of space-time or from wormholes or from current surroundings. You all need answers!
Since 1968, with Project Blue Book many people within the rank and file have rejected answers to your questions and there are countless websites that promote and spread info on paranormal activities, magnetic fixes, etc. Just look at the pop-up windows on this site and see the capitalists making money on our curiosities and concerns.
Some take advantage of our fears and post comments on virus in your computer, phone taps, Indians in the trees at night, and other paranoid delusions that subliminally affect some of you.
Over the years have you not noticed that scientists and others that have claimed to have answers either disappear from view or be murdered, or just plan hoax creators?
Well it goes on.
Fact: HAARP exists in Alaska, Chemtrails globally, unmarked aircraft that dumps chemical waste in the upper atmosphere, HAARP will exist in Florida a second HAARP system.
Some of you should consider starting a grassroots program in your own home by being proactive and aware of the chemicals that you use and flush done the toilet each day or wash down your driveway. We all should be considerate of our neighbors and ourselves.
I for one will guide us into understanding HAARP. And I will bring in others that will help me to educate on chemtrails.
Thank you!


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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
670 posts, May 2002

posted 08-21-2003 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emfx13   Email emfx13   Visit emfx13's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been silently observeing this thread but now i have to speak up..What the hell does this have to do with anything:
quote:
Aliens that do all sorts of things to your bodies have abducted some. And the Government will not answer or admit to these abductions and other UFO sightings.
I feel you are spreading disinformation...

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