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DvdGStwrt
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Modesto, CA USA
26 posts, Nov 2002

posted 10-06-2003 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DvdGStwrt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The knowledge of CT's has been one which I have known for a year or so.

Indeed, look at my User name and date of joining (I know I do not post much at all)

Thing is that was the early time of my discovering and learning about CT's and much more too.

I freely admit that this knowledge sits on the back of my brain, always simmering, just waiting for some little thing to bring it to the forefront where I puzzle over it more.

Now I must wonder, is this a kind of stress? Does it effect us in ways we may not fully understand?

My friend, a person who knows CT well, appears to be 'losing' it. In the past year I have met him several times, each time he is a little more haggard, a little more disarrayed.

Some would say that Knowledge is what was the real cause for the Fall of Adam and Eve.

Any thoughts on this?

Cheers

David

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 10-06-2003 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey David; Knowledge had nothing at all to do with Adam and Eve being expelled from the Garden of Eden and being given the sentence of death. It had every thing to do with OBEDIENCE to their Creator.

Genesis 2:9 says Adam was given access to every desireable thing that would contribute to his happiness and well being. A restriction was put on the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good and bad.

God said;"From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positvely die." Genesis 2:16,17 This command given to Adam from God, before Eve appeared.

An angel, given oversight of the garden began to usurp the worship rightfully belonging to God and slandered his name, contradicted him saying,(to Eve) "you positively will not die" that is why Satan is called the father of the lie. He insinuated God was withholding something beneficial to Adam.

Adam was not decieved but Eve was. Instead of correcting her, he joined in the act of disobedience to the Creator and ate the fruit of the forbidden tree. That is why generations to follow inherited sin and death and that is why God gave is perfect son Jesus as a ransom sacrifice to buy back our right to life.

Very important that you read ROMANS 5:12 Paul writes "that is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men bcause they had all sinned; verse 18, "as through one trespass the result to men of all sorts was condemnation, likewise also through one act of justification the result to men of all sorts is declaring of righteous for life." Read Genesis 2 3 and 5...

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Jeanie on 10-06-2003]

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 10-06-2003 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David,regards knowledge of chemtrails being responseable for mental illness of your friend,it's more likley stress, not enough rest, genetic, poor diet, negative thinking, whatever. Many around the world are wiseing up to chemtrails, now all that need's to be done is bringing it to an abrupt end...Got any suggestions?



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ScaredForTheFuture
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Orange County, CA,USA
162 posts, Jan 2003

posted 10-06-2003 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScaredForTheFuture     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ha ha ha, I think I know what you're talking about. Sometimes I feel like I am an alien visiting this planet when I point out a "cloud" that looks FAKE AS SHIT and the person I'm speaking to says "Looks like a cloud to me". I feel like I'm going crazy sometimes. It's complete frustration.

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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 10-08-2003 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be patient. We have reached the turning point.

WH

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 10-08-2003 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Halva; I hope you are right that we have reached the turning point. Are you saying this because a small group are looking into "who to sue" ? Would you elaborate ? I need all the encouragement I can get as this atroscity seems endless.

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 10-08-2003 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quest ion ing "reality" again?
it seems that we all get a bit "haggaerd"
so to speek
when the reality does not fit the media expla~~nation
the scizizime tweeks and bends
what is real
who am i
is this a dream
you know

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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 10-08-2003 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the big problems here in Europe was the non-contact, disconnectedess, between the mass movement against neo-liberal globalization and the marginalized, ignored and stigmatized 9/11 truth movements and chemtrails movements, which have been American movements systematically ignored in Europe, particularly by intellectuals.

The first "click", making possible a linking up and mutual reinforcement of these two currents now seems to have occurred.

What needs to happen now is for there to be an extension of this process embracing the more "populist" currents in the US and Europe.


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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 10-08-2003 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeanie, the "who to sue" initiative is not going to get anywhere. A lawyer has already told them there is no evidence that the sprayings are occurring.

The answer has to be found in politics, not in the courts. Or not in the courts we have now, but in the courts we must create,

The European integration process can be harnessed to push forward all these demands, if the right connections are made.

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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A.
801 posts, May 2002

posted 10-09-2003 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emfx13   Visit emfx13's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
The European integration process can be harnessed to push forward all these demands, if the right connections are made.
Who/what are these "connections"?How would we go about this?

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Jeanie
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North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001

posted 10-09-2003 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"A lawyer has already told them there is no evidence that the sprayings are occurring"

Halva, I know you are sincere but I really don't believe "there is no evidence" that areosol spraying is occuring globally.

There are ways of getting at the truth...With patience, perseverance, funds and cooperation of dedicated trustworthy individuals around the globe these law breaking tyrants could and should be brought to justice...The inumerable toxins can and must be identified and traced to their sources and cut off, with the suppliers of such, imprisioned...

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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 10-09-2003 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeanie, I didn't say there is no evidence. I said a lawyer told them there is no evidence.

That doesn't mean that if you find enough evidence the lawyer is going to say one day. "Do you know, you are right. There is evidence."

The problem is not only with the transmitter. It is with the receiver.

Orgonote and I discussed all this, along with a lot of other stuff that probably won't interest you, on THIS thread:
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000627.html

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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 10-09-2003 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by emfx13:
[QUOTE]The European integration process can be harnessed to push forward all these demands, if the right connections are made.
Who/what are these "connections"?How would we go about this?

[/QUOTE]

The problem is more in Europe than in the United States. In the States you do have politically active people (Ruppert, Carol Brouillet and others in California particularly) who are on the right track. Their only problem is that they are very marginal. In Europe you have a much bigger movement, but with much worse politics.

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TrailDanger
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Northwich, Cheshire,UK
7 posts, Oct 2003

posted 10-09-2003 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrailDanger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In Dublin Ireland last Monday I filmed a plane looking like an airliner with Crossair or Swissair red and white cross tail, this plane appeared to have only 2 engines, but was leaving 3 equally thick white chemtrails.


Has anybody else seen a plane that appears to be an airliner doing this?

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shatoga
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1117 posts, Nov 2002

posted 10-18-2003 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TrailDanger:

Has anybody else seen a plane that appears to be an airliner doing this?



The jet looked like a cargo transport.
As it flared in to land, a dark football shaped protuberance below the fuselage was silouetted.
From the rear of the football a 'smoke' trailed aft.

Afterwards an afternoon dew was visible on lawns.

I stayed inside the house, windows closed, dehumidifiers filtering air.

Neighbors who went for walks, suffered flu like symptoms.
A nearby jail was closed because all inmates had a sudden mysterious disease, a spike in school absences was explained as a flu like illness.

One state away, a friend called and said airplanes are flying over very low lately.

He asked what makes contrails.
I explained hot moisture laden exhaust in cold air causes contrails.
"How about low altitude contrails?"
"No such thing below the artic. Stay inside for a day or two."

All his neighbors came down with flu like symptoms.
One died from "West Nile"

"How can we get West Nile with no mosquitos?"
He asked in the next phone call.
"Respiratory distress caused by inhalable particulates of toxic minerals can be mis-diagnosed."

I might empathise with the "friend" mentioned in the first post in this thread.

Until I set up videocams and motion detector actuated videorecorders I wondered about my computer being tampered with or me imagining things.

Returning from a shopping trip:

A Ford which had been in the supermarket parking lot zoomed past;
doing maybe 40 to 60 in a 25mph zone,
it bounced through the rain gutters at intersections and vanished down my street.

I turned into the street.
Here towards me came the Ford with a black GMC Surburban close behind.

Unloading my groceries,
a neighbor approached.
"Your guests have room to park in front of your house.
I'd appreciate they not use my curb."

I had no guests.
I'd just gotten home.
"I saw them go into your house." he insisted.

The videotape showed two men dressed like missionaries approach my door.
it showed both men walk away and across the street
and then a car and van zoomed past just before my car pulled into the drive.

I postulate:

"You aren't paranoid if you really have enemies."

Try to be an activist and you may get noticed.


(BTW- all I had done was stuff like: organize a letter writing campaign to President Chirac of France to get him to veto the unjustified invasion of Iraq)

"You aren't paranoid if you really have enemies."

[Edited 3 times, lastly by shatoga on 10-18-2003]

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Dry Cough
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Salem OR Marion
67 posts, May 2001

posted 10-21-2003 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dry Cough     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shatoga - that's really scary, what happened to you. And Scared, I totally know what you mean - people either listen "politely" while giving you the glazed over look in their eyes, and then promptly forgetting everything you've said, or just vehemently deny what is happening in front of their eyes - I also think that they begin to 'believe' that chemtrail laden skies is 'normal' and FORGET what NORMAL SKIES USED TO LOOK LIKE. This has worked in other areas of life for the globalists - why not now? Just tell a lie long enough and the willing lemmings will accept it. Even most of my friends who are upset about various other evil aspects about the NWO, often don't want to tread too closely to either learning about or fighting chemtrails. Never mind that they are also scratching their suddenly itching and burning skin -especially feet - sudden bouts of joint and arthritic type pains in all areas, bloody noses or stuffy ones, with phlegm nearly choking them, deep, chesty coughs, etc. Or sudden lapses into chronic fatigue type weariness, disturbing memory blocks, wild nightmares/dreams, panic attacks, etc. They'll believe some nameless faceless 'terrorist' might do that, but God forbid that the globalists with the power and the money might do it to the 'peasants' which we all KNOW is how they view us. Well, I think THEY are panicking by 'upping' the program since God hasn't allowed as many people to DIE OFF as they were planning by NOW - so at least around here I can say they have been spraying the skies into utter chemtrail haze oblivion.

As a Christian, I could refer to Christ's many repetitions of 'many are called, few are chosen,' and while most people look at that as a theological reference to the 'saved,' I also think that He was referring to how most people either (1) do NOT want the truth, and/or (2) if they know the truth, would rather run and hide under their bed rather than dealing with it. The ones who care enough to act are few indeed.

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Jim Phelps
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Knoxville, Tn. USA
16 posts, Dec 2003

posted 12-01-2003 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Phelps   Visit Jim Phelps's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello David Stewart,

Interesting that you speak to the effects of working with chemtrails knowledge and what it appears to be doing to your pal.

Chemtrails do appear to have a general depression effect from all the gloomy weather they induce. I know, here in East Tennessee, that the effects of all the marked up skies with all the lines does have a negative psychological effect on myself and others. I was most relieved when some of the chemtrails were reduced this past summer over East Tennessee, and normal clouds returned and lots more real blue skies. The cold air of recent is also cutting down the chemical reaction rates and lower the chemtrail white line effects.

I suspect that your friends real problems with chemtrails is in dealing with the big knowledge picture on what is really going on health wise in the public. That is even more depressing to watch.

If your friend is clued into the issues of national security around national labs and some of those cover ups, then that is even more depressing. The national security business has turning into a huge cover up of harmful effects on the citizens. Oak Ridge being one of the dirties players in the business. Oak Ridge involved places like LLNL and used some of Teller's Star War classification to help cover up many problems.

You speak to the issue of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and the knowledge factors. In the national security world, there is a unique view towards this association. It is the factor that involves longevity vs toxicity of metals and fluorides. Fluorides upset the trace metals balance in the human body and highly affects the lifespan. Fruits in the garden of Eden and the snake symbolism appear to connect to this basic effect.

Chemtrails are designed to alter the fluoride and metals synergism effects to alter disease profiles by controlling the immune system in animals and man. It has many similaries to the issues of Adam and Eve and the snake and apple symbolisms captured in these old world icons of religion.

The snake symbolism even gets into the icon of Mary standing on a snake coming from the ground. It appears to suggest that mediation of the toxic's from the Earth into the food chain, the apple, is very important.

If one studies these old world issues one finds that Mary's family was highly into the issues of mining from volcanic deposits for gold and other metals. It is here that the roots of the greater understanding for the health effects connect to old world issues of religion.

If one follows those associations, one essentially finds the end-times effects of revelations. It stems from too much acid air pollution in the air.

We are even getting many of the huge epidemic levels connected to the end-times predictions. The transmission of HIV and the epidemic of AIDS is directly associated with the effects of fluorides on the immune system and the alteration of trace metals like manganese on HIV reverse transcription.

The Govt. and the national lab systems know these factors and they well know that a lot is not being told. Some of the not being told items directly allow these epidemics like HIV to kill off massive numbers of persons on the planet. IN the national security business, the over population of the Earth is seen as part of the problems leading to the pollution problems affecting health.

I can well see that dealing with these types of information can and will take a toll on your friend. Anyone that begins to understand the big picture on chemtrails and the associated sciences tends to get the same effect.

Sincerely,
Jim Phelps

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suckingeggs
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posted 12-01-2003 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for suckingeggs   Visit suckingeggs's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glad to see you made it here Jim. The end time stuff has been puzzling me for awhile, interesting you speak of longevity in the context of chemtrails and original sin. Follows the stories of our DNA and the relevant codes.

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posted 12-01-2003 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted 12-01-2003 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Jim Phelps
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Knoxville, Tn. USA
16 posts, Dec 2003

posted 12-02-2003 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Phelps   Visit Jim Phelps's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Suckingeggs writes:

Glad to see you made it here Jim. The end time stuff has been puzzling me for awhile, interesting you speak of longevity in the context of chemtrails and original sin. Follows the stories of our DNA and the relevant codes.

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Hello to the UK again. It looks like the chemtrails list is dwendling down a bit.

I know your not into the religion issues as they associate with the Judeo-Christian beliefs in the US. I am not into this version much either. I appreciate them from a historic reference point of view. I appreciate them from the perspective of alchemical methods of these times and the varied icons that tell more of the real stories that all the words in the Kabala or Bible.

In the national security world we look at things with a greater slant toward what is real. We essentially define the word God to mean the natural order for events.

The old testament was more into how to make God as something associated with a volcano. Moses kinda pulled a fast one over his followers, and things have not gotten much better since.

When we look at some of the old icons like the Noah's Ark issues and the 40 days and nights of rain, we generally see a huge volcanic event in an ocean type effect. These events have long been associated with damaging the immune resistance around the globe and causing health plagues.

There was a lot of rain, but not a real flood that killed off everything, else there would be no India and Chinese history in these same eras.

We look at things very differently when it comes to the US evangelism. US religion is more about keeping folks in the dark and making them give money from fear. They want followers and not persons of greater knowledge.

In the Oak Ridge national security world we cracked these simple associations long long ago. We know that Moses ran to a volcano zone down in Arabia, and most of what went on there was about the effects of volcanic gases, like HF, affecting the health and mental states.

We almost relived these type effects from the problems of Oak Ridge.

Similarly, the entire Sodam and Gomorra stuff is about a subsidence effect that polluted this region with metals and fluorides. In the end, the subsidence sinks these cities under the Dead Sea.

These associations go on and on, and are much clearer when viewed with this background knowledge. One can even look in the Revelations and find the issues of angles tossing flaming mountains into oceans. It is a replay of the Noah bit.

We are in a period where pollution is causing all manner of problems from weather to health. The big issue with global warming is the differential heat absorption in the air, which leads to larger storm energies and destruction. Some of the effects also lead to problems with polar ice melts and oceans rising.

El Nino is highly tied to volcanic emissions affecting the oceans warming.

It appears these folks in the old world knew quite a bit about planet effects from pollution and were able to make some interesting predictions. All their predictions are based on the simple knowledge of what pollutants do in air, and what these pollutants from volcanos did to local populations.

This is how all the chemtrail stuff began at ORNL in the mid-80's. We knew from one of our uranium enrichment plants just what the HF and metals were doing to workers and communities. Then we looked at coal fired emissions and got the greater picture of the coming delimma.

Our planet's air is full of acids, and these acids react with varied things and change the opacity of the air, leading to higher and higher temperture rise and energy in the air.

The ideas are pretty straight forward and simple and these ancients with their simple sciences of alchemy were able to see these effects and make long term forecasts quite easily.

These old world relgions stem from alchemical principles and icon methods. The old definition of God was more about natures ways. Some learned to go with natures ways and some did not.

We have learned much to late these days also.

Religion's evangelists these days appears to have done too much to loose these simple meanings, which makes all the world a victim of deceptive techniques.

The US evangelism religion lulls people into sleep almost, because they are sure not connected to reality on health and environmetal issues that were well known 2,000 years ago. These icons of relgion speak to these effects, but religions keep a tight veil over the correct interpretations.

SO, we are in a bit of a decaying spiral these days, and one of the options is to correct for the acids in the air using varied catalytic metals dumped from jet planes.

We can't shut down the coal emissions, that would make an even bigger problem. SO, we are stuck. We can shift to nuclear, but there are problems there too. One way is to move to renewables, use less, cut populations. And these moves are happening, many driven by the natural orders of nature.

The problems are not so much DNA, but the DNA replair processes become damaged over time of exposure to fluorides and metals offsets.

If you watch carefully, the US Govt. knows exactly what the problem is. Varied factions have strategically placed their mil/ind networks businesses in ways to make huge profits. Classic examples are the Bush connections, especially the drug connections such as Eli Lilly.

You want sins, these are the really big ones connected to false profits.

Jim Phelps

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halva
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Greece
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posted 12-28-2003 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strategies against Climatic Change

The situation of deadlock between on the one hand environmental NGOs warning of the dangers of global warming hand and on the other hand spokespersons for the United States government has on the face of it many similarities with the inertial deadlock of the late Cold War period (as analysed by the theorists of the non-aligned peace movements in the 1980s).

Just as the SALT treaties for the reduction of strategic nuclear armaments were continually obstructed by Republicans in the U.S. Senate in the 70s, so the 1997 Treaty of Kyoto – a very inadequate first step towards curbing carbon dioxide emissions in the atmosphere – is being blocked by the intransigence of their present-day counterparts.

The anti-nuclear weapons movement that arose in Europe in the 80s represented an attempt to find a way of breaking through the deadlock of the Cold War system. The approach was epitomised in the writings of E.P. Thompson, whose answer to the question: “What is the Cold War about?” was: “It is about itself. The Cold War is “a show which was put, by two rival entrepreneurs, upon the road in 1946 or 1947.”

The nuclear arms race, which should have been brought to an end in 1991, was an objective product of the Cold War deadlock. The global warming deadlock has generated a corresponding “objective product”, whose outlines can be seen emerging in the global warming debate that was taking place in the mid-nineties. It is called ‘geoengineering’. At the time of the Kyoto Conference (and for a time afterwards) a number of articles were appearing in the popular scientific press that appeared to be trying to rally public support for geoengineering.

One of their favourite themes was that global warming is a technical, not a moral problem and so should not be allowed to be the monopoly of ecological non-governmental organizations pursuing an anti-development agenda. Such organizations such were said to be responsi ble for the decision at Kyoto to impose a fifteen percent cut on global emissions of greenhouse gases over the next decade. Economically this was an indefensible decision , one likely to cost something in the order of $250 billion a year, without taking into account the cost of losing the goods, services and innovations whose production would be halted or forgone.

The geoengineering proposal of consciously altering atmospheric chemistry and conditions, of mitigating the effects of greenhouse gases, was put forward as an alternative to calling for reduction of carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide emissions.

Geo-engineering included land, sea and air-based components. Some of the remedies it was proposing, like large-scale planting of trees, seemed uncontroversial and in fact worthy of support. Others, such as the “Geritol” cure of sowing iron filings into the oceans to stimulate the growth of carbon-consuming phytoplankton, seemed more problematic. Others again, such as the “sunscreen” proposal of scattering millions of tons of metallic particles in the atmosphere to reflect sunlight back into space before it could be emitted in heat radiation and then absorbed by carbon dioxide, were probably judged by most geoengineering theorists to be virtually impossible to sell to the public.

Nevertheless, in the mid-nineties valiant attempts were made to give geoengineering a good name. Gregory Benford, professor of physics at the University of California, estimated that the Arctic and Antarctic Oceans could be seeded with iron dust for between $10 million and $1 billion a year. 15 ships steaming across the polar oceans all year long, dumping iron dust in lanes, would bring the total to around $10 billion. “This would soak up about a third of our global fossil-fuel generated carbon dioxide emissions each year.”

“Even better than dust would be microscopic droplets of sulphuric acid. Sulfate aerosols can also raise the number of droplets that make clouds condense, further increasing overall reflectivity. Coal-burning freighter ships releasing sulfates into the atmosphere could also spread iron dust into the sea, combining both approaches, with some economies.”

Probably the best-known of the aerial geoengineering proposals was that put forward in 1997 by Edward Teller entitled “Global Warming and the Ice Ages: Prospects for Physics-Based Modulation of Global Change, subsequently popularised in the Wall Street Journal in an article entitled "The Planet Needs a Sunscreen."

Teller proposed deliberate, large-scale introduction of reflective particles into the upper atmosphere, a task he claimed could be achieved for less than $1 billion a year, between 0.1 and 1.0 percent of the $100 billion he estimated it would cost to bring fossil fuel usage in the United States back down to 1990 levels, as required by the Treaty of Kyoto.

Characteristic of the politics of Teller is the fact that he both ridiculed the idea of global warming and at the same time put forward what he represented as a solution to global warming, one which he argues would be cheaper than imposing restrictions on the burning of fossil fuels. “For some reason,” Teller observed sarcastically, “This option isn't as fashionable as all-out war on fossil fuels and the people who use them.”

Teller, who is known to history of course as the father of the hydrogen bomb and of the Star Wars missile defense programme, has not always succeeded in getting his pet schemes adopted. His ambitious plan, for example, for using hydrogen bombs to construct harbours in the United States, never made the move from the drawing board into reality. His sarcasm reflected a genuine problem: that of persuading the public that permanent mobilisation of thousands of aircraft to fly day and night, 365 days a year, over land and sea spraying toxic metals over the human, animal and plant populations underneath is a desirable, or even in anyway defensible, proposal.

Gregory Benford was sensitive to the public relations difficulties. He said: “If geoengineers are painted early and often as Dr. Strangeloves of the air, they will fail. Properly portrayed as allies of science--and true environmentalism--they could become heroes. Not letting the radical greens set the terms of discussion will matter crucially. ”

One theoretician who helped keep radical greens out of the debate, and may even have succeeded in co-opting some radical greens into the debate, was the Stanford University environmental law student Jay Michaelson, whose “Geo-engineering: A Climate Change Manhattan Project”, was published in 1998 in his university’s environmental law journal. Like the name of Edward Teller, the title of Michaelson’s paper is a standing reminder of the continuity between geoengineering and the nuclear arms race. The paper is a masterful attempt at defending the indefensible. Asserting that geoengineering offers hope for solving climate change ‘beyond the too-little, too-lates of Kyoto’ Michaelson’s basic thesis is that ‘in a world where it is very expensive to reduce greenhouse emission, those who care about the problem should support a policy that will work with those who don’t.”

Michaelson outlines three possible responses to climate change: 1) addressing its root causes, 2) doing nothing and adapting to climate change as it occurs and 3) trying to solve the climate change problem directly via geoengineering.

The impediments to addressing the root causes are the economic cost of cutting back on fossil fuel use, the social costs in a context of generalised dependence on automobiles, the question of equity, given the objection of the nations of the South to having to bear the cost of problems created by the North, and the harsh fact that enforcement of a regulatory regime forces most countries to go against their immediate interests.

The advantages of the second alternative, doing nothing, is that if predictions are correct, climate change is soon going to cease to be what Michaelson calls “an absent problem”. Increasingly disastrous evidence of the reality of climatic change will probably make it easier to gain consensus on preventive regulation. But the problem by then will have become one of choice of priorities: what and who should be saved and what and who abandoned?

These disadvantages led Michaelson, as he says, to the third solution of geoengineering. Geoengineering would shift priorities away from researching into whether the globe is warming into practical solutions that can be started immediately. It would not necessitate making greater demands on the developing world than on developed countries. It would indeeed allow the developing world to be “a free rider on a project financed mostly by the industrialized nations. Because it would restrict growth in the developing world less than regulation would, it would allow developing nations to progress more quickly away from the serious environmental threats of unsafe water, unhealthy air, and topsoil loss, through proven means such as sewage treatment, newer (cleaner) automobiles and factories, and modern agriculture.” By relying on technological innovation and development, geoengineering would increase the role of private actors relevant to that of government. Instead of requiring widespread enforcement of complex and growth-threatening rules, geoengineering would give private firms. a financial incentive to help solve the climate change problem.”

For all his ostensible commitment to geoengineering, Michaelsson conceded that in the final analysis ‘geoengineering runs afoul of almost every major trend in contemporary environmentalism. “Geritol cures” and “Earth sunscreens” treat shallow symptoms, not deep causes, and fail to ‘kill two birds with one stone as would a serious programme of combating deforestation or cutting greenhouse gas emissions.. There is much circumstantial evidence that he would really have liked it if the controversial character of his own proposals could contribute to the development of a political climate that would make possible the implementation of real solutions to global warming. “If serious debate were to emerge,” he says, ‘shock at geoengineering might wane in the context of rational reflection of the costs of climate change.” But for the emergence of such a serious debate to be triggered by public shock at realisation of what is being proposed, and not only proposed but done, by the geoengineers, geoengineering must be publicly acknowledged, must be the subject of public debate, like genetically modified foods, cloning or nuclear power, all of which have interest groups publicly lobbying for and against them.

The wholehearted public embrace of geoengineering advocated by Benford, Michaelson and others in the nineties has not happened. The media has not tried to make geoengineers into heroes and portray them as allies of science and true environmentalism. Many global warming sceptics are even on record as saying that reports of geoengineering activities, aircraft engaged in large-scale spraying of aerosols in the upper atmosphere, could not be genuine, that such activities could not be occurring because they are not needed and would be criminal.

The big environmental NGOs such as Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth or WWF do not try to glamourise or otherwise promote geoengineering. They simply pretend that it is not occurring, or if pushed perhaps offer some general disparaging remarks about ‘conspiracy theories’. Their silence, to look at its positive aspect, possibly reflects a refusal to be associated with the task of making geoengineering look respectable.

The invisibility of geoengineering is perpetuated by a climate of official denial. The US Air Force, whose KC-135R and KC-10 tanker planes have become a familiar sight in many different parts of the world as they engage in the daily particulate scattering operations of the “sunscreen” programme, on its official site describes eyewitness accounts of these operations as “a hoax that has been around since 1996.” “The Air Force, it says “is not conducting any weather modification experiments or programs and has no plans to do so in the future.” The ‘hoax’ accusation is energetically echoed by the seemingly large numbers of ‘debunkers’ frequenting chemtrail/geoengineering discussion forums, generating considerable confusion and resentment with their characterisation as “chemmies’ (a variant on ‘commies’) those who wish to draw attention to the strange lines in the sky. All elected politicians in the world, also, above the municipal level, have fallen into line with the official story that the sunscreen climate mitigation programme is “a hoax”.

One reason for this successful conspiracy of silence may well be the still unresolved status of geoengineering under international law. This is an issue that was being investigated, again in the mid-nineties, by the environmental lawyer Bodansky. Among the questions he raised were: who should make geoengineering decisions? Should all countries be able to participate in decision-making, since all will be affected and there will be both positive and negative impacts. How should liability and compensation for damages be handled? From the legal viewpoint, schemes to inject particles into the atmosphere are purportedly among the most problematic of all geoengineering proposals because the atmosphere above any country is part of its airspace. Nations lay claim to their airspace and may act on the claims, for example, by shooting down aircraft. Geoengineering activity in the atmosphere could be viewed as infringements of national sovereignty. Obviously, the simplest way of dealing with legal problems of this kind, pending negotiation of the necessary adjustments to international law, is to deny that any such activity is occurring.

The publication on the internet in 2003 of an interview with an alleged ‘insider’ of the sunscreen programme (this is not its official name) working at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory cast further light on the difficulties involved in trying to promote a favourable image of geoengineering. Starting from the question of why polymer threads embedded with ‘biological material’ have been found in residues from aerosol spraying, the insider (given the pseudonym ‘Deep Shield’) explained that ‘since the suspended particles eventually do settle into the lowest part of the atmosphere and are inhaled by all life forms on the surface, there is an attempt to counter the growth of mould by adding to the mixture mould growth suppressants, some of which may be of biological material.”

Deep Shield acknowledged the potential of the aerosol spaying to cause sickness: “Some people are more sensitive to the metals, while others are sensitive to the polymer chemicals. It is true that people will get sick, and some will die. The World Health Organization has carried out most of the relevant studies. Some have said the ill effects will be minimal, along the lines of a million or so, while others have found the numbers to be far higher – 3 or 4 billion. The Accepted Estimated Casualties (from the World Health Organization) is 2 billion over the course of six decades. The majority will be either the elderly or those who are prone to respiratory problems.”

Emphasising the ‘globalist’ aspects of the operations and the need to ‘insure the chemicals are not tampered with’ Deep Shield claims that ‘they are mixed and sprayed over random nations. This means that chemicals produced in the USA have a good chance of being sprayed over Russia. Russian planes may be seen in US skies, but so too will US planes be seen in Russian skies. The canisters are sealed in a third nation that has no idea where its canister is going. All of this is to insure that that the shield is not used as a weapon. Non-participant nations are sprayed by participant nations, who must spray in order to get enough material to maintain their nation’s shield. It is understood that not spraying is as much a military offence as shooting at the planes.

According to Deep Shield ordinary commercial aircraft are involved in the particulate scattering operations and are not diverted from their regular flight paths. “But the combined resources of the nations of earth are not enough to allow constant spraying. Though we have achieved a high level of technology, there is a great surface area that needs to be covered nearly daily. Large sections of ocean are all but ignored. The remaining land masses are more than what can be covered efficiently.”

Far from seeing his work as something to be proudly publicised, Deep Shield sees the existing secrecy as necessary to maintain public calm for as long as possible: “The Earth is dying. Humanity is on the road to extinction. Without the Shield, mankind will die off within twenty to fifty years. Most people alive today could live to see this extinction take place. This means that an announcement of the situation we face boils down to telling every man, woman and child on earth that they have no future, they are going to be killed. People would panic. There would be economic collapse, the production and movement of goods would collapse. Millions would die in all cities on earth. Riots and violence would reduce civilian centers to rubble within days.”

The secrecy of the sunscreen project was justified to him, Deep Shield says, on grounds of national security. “All those who know are expected to remain silent. All those who suspect are either faced with trying to prove the virtually unprovable or are faced with good enough reasons to remain silent. I would assume that this situation is worldwide and this could be considered as one of the dangers of the project. I can see why there is a desire to repress the information, not that spraying is taking place but the face that we are facing a period of human history which might be the end of civilization.”

The stance of Deep Shield is deeply irrational, informed by the same psychosis as the US government’s ’War on Terrorism’. People whose conscience is clear do not see the world in this way. What Deep Shield says is nothing more or less than what many, particularly in the ecological milieu say to themselves, and to others, every day, that humanity is on the path to self-destruction. National security classification of the project is absolutely unjustifiable and in total contradiction to the logic, however unconvincing, within which geoengineering was proposed as one of a number of possible answers to climatic change. Geoengineering was meant to be not simply a substitution for real action on the environment, but also possibly a facilitator of, and adjunct to, real action on the environment. Something it cannot be if it remains secret.

David Stewart, who took the “Deep Shield” interviews, has quoted “Deep Shield” more recently as saying that the project is failing to do what it should do. He reports arguments (screaming matches) among the top brass and civilian-dressed military who come and go at the Lawrence Livermore laboratory. The arguments appear to Deep Shield to be about the expense of the project, the effectiveness, and more generally the long-term outlook for humanity. Although there is no visible stack of bodies, as Stewart puts it, of people killed by the aerosol spraying, there is growing evidence of people dying from diseases plausibly traceable to the project. One black spot for casualties is in East Texas, where the initial tests for the spraying materials were carried out in the mid-90s. Projections of 1000% increases in Alzheimer’s disease, one of the side-effects of excessive exposure to aluminium, over the next decades, have emerged in the media in the last year or so.

The sunscreen project is not the only reason for which aerosol spraying is taking place in the atmosphere. Spraying is also being carried out to increase electrical conductivity in the atmosphere, facilitating the operations of HAARP, the High Frequency Active Aural Research Program, in Alaska. Also, some reports of the presence of disease bacteria in aerosol spaying do not fit in with Deep Shield’s explanation of biological materials being spayed to combat the growth of mould. This suggests that black operations are also in progress, parasitical on the pseudo-public-interest applications of geoengineering technology and on personnel who believe that the purpose of their work is the mitigation of climate change. If the sunscreen project is being used as a cover for other even more illegal and apparently criminal purposes, this is another argument for opposing its secrecy.

Many other issues require investigation. Is the current bonanza of cut-price airline tickets being supported by state subsidies to airlines for their services in spreading particulate matter? If so, and if Deep Shield’s statements on the financing of the sunscreen project are correct, then this is being done at taxpayers’ expense. Quite apart from any economic aspects, how sane is it, to have ever larger numbers of aircraft clogging the skies and burning ever larger amounts of fuel, in order to facilitate management of global warming caused by excessive burning of fossil fuel? Can a policy of moving to non fossil-fuel based economy really be developed side by side with climate mitigation policies of this kind, if that is what they are?

Returning to the subject of the deadlock over the Treaty of Kyoto engendered by the argument between defenders and opponents of global warming (or because of the unilateralism of the United States government, as European and other international politicians like to tell us), environmental organizations such as Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth and WWF have shown through their silence on the subject of geoengineering that they are unwilling to help make it respectable by lending support to it. They should be given credit for that. But there remains the task of breaching the secrecy that surrounds the subject. Given that the ecological organizations are clearly not going to do it, we must initiate discussions with them to decide who should be assigned the task. Who is going to bell the cat?



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