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swamp gas
Persuader of air molecules


Jersey City
1881 posts, Jun 2001

posted 10-29-2003 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Michael Irving of STOP-CHEMTRAILS is banning chemtrail activists left and right, including EMFX13 and myself.


Here's his email back.

This guy is a definite fraud.


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Maybe you are "I am one of the most positive activist people you'll find".
But what I saw was........ an off-putting screen name: SWAMP GAS.
Come off it Mike, that's a terrible name -- it will push serious people
away.

Is this guy serious? Swampgas is my screen name and that's that.

quote:
I visited only the homepage of your website and it looked like drugs or
something.

I'm not sure whether he meant MOD or Noble Gas, but "looked" like drugs or something? Again, disinfo


quote:
You posted that a remedy for Chemtrail Sickness is to take Barium and
Aluminium.

I said Malic Acid and Sodium Sulphate are the only antidotes. Period.

quote:
With your really great photos of Chems over DC last weekend --- that's the
bit of your mails I liked --- it seemed you were making a racist remark
(possibly)
about 'Afro-Americans' or similar.

Rascist? I said that what a perfect way to spray everyone with 100,000 anti-war protestors, and 600,000 Afro-Americans, with the entire Bush Cabinet out of town.??? I talked to several people, and pointed at the sky, with acknowledgment of them. I also noticed a very large homeless population in DC, and we really felt terrible at that. No not racsist, just observent.


quote:
Are you really sure you're on our side, of getting Chemtrails stopped,
because from all the above it doesn't seem that way.

Obviously, this guy wants a little following of chemtrail activists to lick his boots. These are the type of people that give Chemtrail Activists a bad name. We write songs, take pictures, call police stations, municipal buildings, Airport Control Towers, go to marches, and contacted some very famous people. What else didn't we do?

quote:
STOP CHEMTRAILS is completely about pushing for a breakthrough at
getting the blasted things stopped right now and several of us are working
100% at that - right now. If you speak to people who know about World-Action
they will tell you I have done a considerable amount to fight against
Chemtrail spraying over the past 3+ years. In mid 2000, I got information
to several million people and have not stopped since."

What do you think we are doing......

Michael Irving is a fraud and disinfo agent.


And for all you debunkers looking at this post, don't worry, chemtrails still exist, and one rotten apple (STOP-CHEMTRAILS) doesn't spoil the bushel.

Cest La Vie' (Ah yes , French)


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shatoga
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1117 posts, Nov 2002

posted 10-29-2003 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes,
It does get discouraging.

When you point up at the sky and say:
"we can all see it."
and
Debunkers reply
"Those are just low altitude contrails."

You note that it 'like cropdusting' passed in parallel rows, and they say
"coincidence"

I felt that a certain supposed democratic "Underground" was run by the RNC.

Doesn't make it so.
(other than in my own opinion)

Just shows how people get caught up in prosletying the truth as we see it and get discouraged by those who
In our opinions;
have decided to be a part of the problem instead of part of the solution.

I posted a really wierd forward from there and note the poster has not been censured.

Could it be that someone over there has decided that only his/her ideas are valid?

I like your screen name "swamp gas"
it evokes memories of patently ridiculous gov't debunking/ so ridiculous as to be laughable.

HMMM

Just like debunking of chemtrails by
those;
strangely immune to readily observable facts
(such as chemtrails visible to anyone who cares to look up)
dedicated debunkers.

Got to find my "Web of Deceit" topic to illustrate motivation of the 'flat earthers' who deny the obvious.



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halva
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Greece
382 posts, Apr 2003

posted 10-29-2003 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
É don't believe that Michael Irving is a fraud, but his character makes much of what he does (and he is hyper-active) counter-productive.

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