posted 12-14-2003 04:26 PM            

Though I have read a good portion of this forum, I have not found much in the way of what I would expect to be a staple of chemtrail understanding, and that is, more far reaching attempts at physical analysis. While there are excellent observations as well as explantions (which I believe) for these observations, I would wonder, what if any types of attempts to "prove" the effects of these chemtrails and their makeup, exist. While chemtrails have been widely documented for scientific weather/military research being dispersed, I am unaware that those witnessing them have tried to show the direct effect. Someone on the other forum mentioned C. Carnicom's site as having done analysis, and I read some of, but has anyone here performed any thing like this?

I understand a simple test (can't remember which site I saw it on, might have been here) was to simply place clean black cloth outside in position to collect rain, and then later view it under a black light. Anyone heard of this? The particles are said to glow intensly.

I also understand cloud seeding operations like the link I posted to ai do air monitoring sampling also. I do not know what elevation they are allowed to fly at or what the cost,but it seems so obvious and simple that if a non-corrupted air sample could be taken right after one of these chemplanes had distributed their load, MUCH could be learned. It is a shame the public has to think about being detectives because their own government believes in constant deceipt and manipulation, but so it is.

As I have said in other forums here, part of my background is in environmental science, as well as some others here, and I have a personal Direct interest in this chemtrail "spraying" as it occurs on average about twice a week here over Mid-Missouri. "They", seem to "hate" the sun.

And while the "right brain" side of me continues to observe and understand what is happening on one level, the "left brain" side desires a more physical assessment. So that brings me back to, 'Is anyone here attempting to do scientific or even "psuedoscientific" analysis on either high altitude trails or air/surface sampling at ground level?

posted 12-14-2003 06:36 PM            

This is where to start. Find a jet that you can charter...check the hourly rate.

Then ask them if they have the facilities to collect an ambient air sample at altitude...remember that you are in a pressurized cabin.

Ask them what these "minor" modifications would cost.

Since you have a background in environmental science, it should be easy to get estimated costs from an accredited laboratory for the appropriate analyses...metals, organics, biologicals. Be sure to tell them you want identification of all "unknowns".

Don't forget the requirements for chain of custody, analytical blanks, and statistical significant replicates.

We wouldn't want to upset those who are so willing to provide a critical appraisal.

So there you go...quite simple really.

posted 12-16-2003 08:58 PM            

Just add it up, take out a home equity loan and get some of those recently printed dollars and you are in business.

posted 12-16-2003 10:19 PM            

So yes, I guess a cost analysis would be the best place to start. Perhaps I will indeed contact AI and see what they charge to collect an air sample. I believe, if I remember, they offered this service. Perhaps we're talking several 1000's, I don't know. I personally am not considered economically "rich", but I would give 100 bucks to see what this crap is coming down, blocking my sun, an purportedly causing illness. I bet many others also. Coming up with the required amount to pay for a sampling, is certainly NOT out of the question.

I realize it is frustrating to know that something is occuring, and try to convey it to others, only to deaf ears. I imagine how Noah felt. But sampling again, seriously, is not economically impossible, nor technologically. I would appreciate any further positive input. Thanks.

posted 12-17-2003 09:33 PM            

I am though, surprised some "big name" with some bucks to spare, wouldn't want to help out. Wouldn't that be nice. Know anybody???

Just as a fun little experiment though, have you ever tried to capture rain on a black cloth, and run it under a black light?
I haven't but maybe I'll give it a try, just for grins. Someone posted they had tried this with excellent results,the thought being that the metal chaf, of course, is washed down in the rain.

Despite the hardship of air monitoring at high elevations, it would seem that sampling at ground level would be quite useful information too. If intitial results of some crude sampling indicated much higher levels of metals, then perhaps it would be worth refining the method.

Perhaps though, sampling aside, maybe if we all just tell everyone we see as often as possible to look up, the number of politically active aware people will show the need for FUll Disclosure. One would think Eventually, it's gotta come out, offficially that is. I just hope it's before the effects of metal and chemical, and perhaps biological poisoning cause us all to end up in the hospital. Or worse.