posted 12-20-2003 12:07 PM            

Almost everyone on this list recognizes that chemtrails are a reality, and the visual proof is seen in the sky most everyday for many. Chemtrails are a secret Govt. project to pull acids out of the air and compensate for global warming, which the energy industry has caused on a global scale. Chemtrails are trying to compensate for weather and health effects. Chemtrails also engage in atmospheric energy research on how to gather charge, and someday make electricity.

Some of you that are sharper and more up to speed on chemtrails may like to consider some of the greater connectivity on the cause / effect of these problems. If we may, Let us take a broader look into Chemtrails and beyond --> The Contiguous Picture of how things mesh. This listing gets into some things that appear not related to chemtrails, but in the total analysis--are the principle reasons for why they exist and are kept so secretive.

I often use some of the old predictions from the Bible to show just how predictable this effect was from even 2,000 years ago. Even the old world folks knew all this energy use of today would come and it would upset the biosphere. It was real easy for them to predict this because these problems today are so similar to volcanic events that set up some similar climactic and health effects in their days. They just used what they observed from these events to predict the mess we have today from using so much oil and coal.

Put simply enough, chemtrails are all part of the predicted "end-time" predicted effects. And, one can even read in many places from Genesis to Revelations that there are volcanic comparisons being made there. One of the big problems from these old world religion effects is some of these that wrote these literary works of religions made some huge mistakes. One should not attempt to make a volcano a god, as this does not work well. This is what happened in the Old Testament. Then, much later came a person that challenged this belief. He was killed much like how Galileo was threatened with death when he declared the world was round and not flat.

It is becoming clear that the person they called Jesus challenged the falsehoods of the Old Testament and was crucified for telling things more correctly. It was the sins of the old Testament that Jesus died over, and the errors of Moses. Today, we are still in the very same mess of denials and poorly stated issues in religions. This is also part of the reason for the chemtrails cover ups. The full science of the chemtrails points out a very serious issue in religion, basically that Moses made up things and all his claims are examples of too much poetic license. This then gets into issues such as the rights to land in the Middle East and Israel. So, one can see there are some interesting games happening in why chemtrails sciences are covered up and their connections to volcanic events, health and weather effects.

It gets even deeper, because the volcanic events that Moses wrote about were located at Mt. Sinai, which is right in the middle of Saudi territories today. The Jewish people, after they escaped from Egypt, called a volcano zone of Mt. Sinai their home for a time. But after a time, they moved on toward looking for a less polluted land and became more or less squatters. Different attempts to address this problem of some slaves that became freed with no homeland have been attempted in recent times.

Today, now we have the oil patch folks and the Bush oil patch supporters all helping to cover up these volcanic connections of Moses excess with poetic licenses in making god. All this then tied up with covering up the effects of oil burning on global warming too. All this tied back into the predictions for the end-times.

It is all an interesting mutually connected web of things, with some interesting, if not highly illegal things being manipulated for profit. It gets down to the roots for terrorism, where these issues can be used to show that the old testament is wrong in many areas and that certain points of what Moses claimed is inconsistent with the reality of the rest of the world and the universe. It is this effect that sets up the intensity of religion differences that are the roots of the terrorism issues. Understanding these issues is at the root for solutions for world peace.

The Christmas season approaches in the US, and the sales are running briskly. But amid all this cheer, the US needs to keep in mind that the reason for this season is peace. Peace can only be achieved via truth and knowledge, which is consistent throughout all religions of Earth.

There are some very simple truths that have been known for thousand of years that the current US administrations are trying to suppress for financial gains, which are so abusive that they fall into the Racketeering domain. In the US, it is these who seek these profits that stand in the way of world peace, and in the way of disclosing the real problems that chemtrails attempt to fix.

The US Adm. is not real serious on changing the use of oil and coal, but they are serious about covering up the harmful effects. This was one of the uses for 911. The US Adm. is also slightly pushing toward fission nuclear, which is real messy and has serious problems with terrorism, which brought on Yucca Mtn. Project. The really big secret is the cold fusion method does work and provides a much better energy alternative, but it is being stymied by US Adm. The US Adm., at this point in time, wants to promote higher levels of death to deal with SS and Baby-boomers, while enhancing profits for drug companies, oil, and fossil fuels. It is all designed not to work in any effective manner, only to be manipulated for finincial gains.

All these End-Times effects are just real simple Earth sciences. Global warming causes the earth's crust to expand and this increases effects like tectonic plate rifting in areas like the African Rift zone, where AIDS is the worst. The cause of AIDS is connected to global warming, and the direct effect of rising fluoride levels upsetting trace metals in the human food chain due to this effect. So, even the bit about rising world plagues was directly predictable from old world volcanic looks at health and environment. The AIDS crisis is just as manipulated as the factors on fossil fuels. AIDS exists as a way to promote less population growth and kill off some areas, while enhancing profits toward drug companies. And the list of manipulation of the human conscience goes on...

One serious problem is that some religions tend to avoid telling these simple truths, because many of them are steeped in evangelism stretching the truth for financial gain, and faked up land rights in the Middle East. These are just some interesting things to reflect upon during the holidays at hand.

Grace and Peace,

posted 12-20-2003 10:27 PM            

That was an interesting post, and I have to agree, we are living in very interesting times. Our very Constitution is being challenged, the very thing that makes us "American". AS you say, chemtrails are quite the reality, the question is still why.

From what I am observing here in Mid-Missouri, on this Dec. 20 ,2003, the plan seems to be for whatever reason, to block out the sun. I have to think, as I've said before, that it would be alot warmer, if the chemplanes had not come out and released their chemload above my county.

posted 12-21-2003 07:41 PM            

SMT: "That was an interesting post, and I have to agree, we are living in very interesting times. Our very Constitution is being challenged, the very thing that makes us "American". AS you say, chemtrails are quite the reality, the question is still why."
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JP comment: Thanks!

The basic reason for chemtrails is the energy production industry and Washington want cheep energy, and to keep invested in current methods. They have done some things to cut particle emission, but the acids, CO2, and metals still cause increasing problems. So, they treat the air with chemtrail methods that are designed to settle out the acids and reflect some of the IR heat that collects in the CO2. It is all classical Govt. spin games, even to the point now of claiming CO2 will be good for plant growth. They don't toss out any of the full story or full analysis. Only little tid bits designed to not inform the public.

Some of the chemtrails experiments is aiming at higher goals of electrial charge distribution and collection from the atmosphere and this has both weapons and peaceful energy directions.

These are billion dollar projects aimed at multiple things that tend to enrich the Republican industries and take the American public hostage in the process. It is a fairly complicated set of strategies that takes a good deal of Govt. knowledge to see all the interactions.

They don't tell the public what is really going on, because when this truth comes out. It is going to cause huge public responses. So, they deceive, they classify, and sometimes just outrightly lie about things.

They learned these deception methods just by looking at how the bible handled the issues of why Jesus was killed. Jesus died over exposing the problems with Moses faked up god stories. There are now all kinds of bibles printed all over the place, but the real meat of the story remains untold. The massive publication of the half truth stories are designed to give Israel lands and deal them the rule of the world. The US does the same kind of control of the masses, and just repeats the same empty truths over and over. Hitler did the same.

Yes, the Constitution and the Rights of the Citizens to know is at full risk in this cover up of immense proportion. The people are now second to the rights of corperations to avoid being sued for causing the problems to the environment and health. These problems are magnified by not having an honest political process and few honest presidents in the last century.

Chemtrails follows as a sort of culmination for a half dozen other national security cover ups. Some of these were things like human experiments in the 30-40's on little S. Am. jungle natives with varied chemical poisons leading up to some being used in atmospheric atomic testing. Then the Govt. nicknaming all these experiments involving "aliens." It is all designed to cover up war crimes.

DDE probably gave the clearest warnings that the Mil/Ind Network was getting out of control when he handed over the presidency to JFK. JFK then fell victum to the corrupted powers of the former White House involving Cuba and Nixon. It is no hard to notice that the Warren Report was a total faked up mess to cover up this power group wanting JFK gone and LBJ in place. We have an LBJ clone is office now.

It is also not hard to spot the JFK conspiracy. Just look for the bullet from the head shot shown in the Zapruder Film. This bullet would have to hit the lemo, if it were fired from the book depository. But it did not. If one looks frame by frame at the Zapruder Film, one can see the head shot bullet hits JFK in the right temple and exits his forehead, leaving a staight track of blood clearly visible in the film. Yet, all the forensics analysis omit this effect and that simple fact that there were several shooters.

It was the same group that designed the JFK hit, that are behind the cover ups on chemtrails. US national security is one of the most dishonest bunches in the world these days and this is also part of the problem.

This group is very familiar with the methods from Moses and how to control the beliefs of the masses. They were right in the middle of the Cuban invasion and JFK assasination, and right in the middle of the chemtrails and fluorides heath effects cover ups.

SMT: "From what I am observing here in Mid-Missouri, on this Dec. 20 ,2003, the plan seems to be for whatever reason, to block out the sun. I have to think, as I've said before, that it would be alot warmer, if the chemplanes had not come out and released their chemload above my county."
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JP: Yes, chemtrails do tend to reduce the Sun's energy reaching the surface, and even depositing in the air. If the chemtrail effects shut down the energy in the air will rise, and the temperatures, and both storm energies and frequencies.

Chemtrails are designed to slow down the global warming effects, but at the current rate of emissions from energy production these problems continue to worsen.

One must keep in mind that the national labs have been working on these issues of chemtrails for more than a decade now and they know a lot. The system works a bit like a giant toy factory, where there are designs behind the scense for varied tasks and these are only brought forward when it serves some purpose or it is highly financially profitable, particualarly for Rep. Industries.

As with everything, just study the money trails and you find the keys to why it all happens.

JP

posted 12-21-2003 09:48 PM            

explanation for the bulk of chemtrail spraying, is to 'combat' signs of warming, as you say, wherever it is occurring. And perhaps other "weather change" operations such as you listed CO2 scrubbing, and acid adjustment, lightning suppression,etc.
I wonder though how much of this is actually expected to work though as a viable fix, or is it rather a way to manipulate temperature monitoring stations that have been set up around the world. If this spraying goes on above all of the temperature monitoring stations worldwide, then getting a "truer" picture of what climate change might be like without chemtrailing, would be pretty hard.

I posted on the global warming thread the links to Exxon and General Eletric's million dollar research grants to Stanford. Stanford (possibly as a result of funding)has published several papers advocating geoengineering as a preferred solution to what they claim is real global warming. One does have to wonder why these big corporations are spending 100 million
dollar sums looking at geoengineerring as a solution to what some claim does not exist.
Is it all just for the tax breaks and a way to funnel money as some claim? Or perhaps these energy companies realize our coal and oil based technologies really are influencing weather around the world.

One last thing just for speculation. What if instead of chemtrails being a means to halt global warming, they are instead being used to increase global warming, under the pretext of slowing it? Thoughts, anyone?

SmT

posted 02-20-2004 10:55 PM            

Although it's mixed with a lot of politics (what isn't?) it speaks generally to the issues of WHY the chemtrail spraying. Phelps's other article over on C Science goes into more depth on the CO2 and other upper atmospheric layer molecular manipulations and so-called repairs! Yet, had the corporations followed the warnings and laws twenty years ago our continent might not have been in such trouble. However, at this point it seems the whole atmospheric biosphere is affected now by the whole world's pollution effects.

And added to that is the recent discovery about the cooling of the Gulf Stream which puts a more chaotic spin on the climate situation. It's not mere global warming anymore. It's a mini-ice age occurring simultaneously with global warming (the CO2 build-up) AND the interaction of sun cycles as well. So how will they try to fix that?

Why not just throw in the approaching planatoid that will wreak havoc with the magnetic and gravitational fields creating that tilting of the axis to which the prophecies of many cultures refer?

And those that know and have money can seek underground shelter and Cheyenne Mountain - like shelters and those of us who prepare may survive and most will not!

These efforts with chemtrails are too little too late. The CO2 / plankton efforts futile. There's no where to go but off the grid of fossil fuels, back to the land, away from the shores, stocked and ready to survive until the earth settles again.

Ed Dames, the renown ex-CIA remote viewer, says that after Korea launches a nuke on South Korea the tilting-axis scenario (due to a visiting gravity body) will happen and those who didn't know before will have approximately 90 days to prepare. You can believe or not believe the many people on Ed Dame's team who see the same visions of the future.

All prophecies seem to converge and we feel that truth in our hearts.

Prepare spiritually and materially and get ready!

posted 02-23-2004 08:29 PM            

perhaps I offended Mr. Phelps when I asked him if he thought there was a CHANCE global warming was actually being increased due to chemtrails, as he never returned any more posts. I did notice that his name was on the visitors list for today but I didn't see that he has posted anywhere.

I certainly understand putting the chemtrail/geoengineering/Earth changes activities that are now occurring into a "biblical" context, even possibly an "End of Times" of an era scenario, but I stopped short of tying it to volcanic conditions supposedly at/before the time of "Moses" as did Mr. Phelps. Not to say in any way that this theory is or isn't some or all correct, but only that I'm not real close to 100% there YET. But it's posible I suppose.

I did find alot I very much agreed on though all through Mr. Phelps posts and they show among other things much depth of thought and to my way of thinking appear very enlightened on the chemtrails issue. But then again how can one know it wasn't written in a Fed Disinfo Agent's office somewhere, as bait to "hook some fish, then cut the line". Or worse yet, reel em in??? I would have really thought that this trail wouldn't have just dried up if there had been anything to it.

SmT