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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 06-03-2003 11:17 AM
FK--ICU812 has noticed this odd pattern for many months now ~ quote: For the sixth straight month Edmonton recieved precipitation within the first six days of the month
His area only gets precipitation in the first 6 days of every month, and only on these days. It makes one wonder if there is a scheduled pattern here...
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Lulu on 06-03-2003] 
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker 537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 06-03-2003 12:02 PM
So, Edmonton ONLY gets rain the first six days and NO other?Hmmm.. F.K. 
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker 537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 06-03-2003 12:43 PM
Well I did some checking. Here is the daily rainfall for Edmonton from about Dec-April. http://www.msc-smc.ec.gc.ca/climate/temperature_precipitation/precipitation_graphs/YEG.gif I don't see a pattern. In fact the precip occurs at various times of each of all those months. F.K. 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 06-03-2003 01:27 PM

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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-03-2003 10:41 PM
It wasn't "only" the first week of the month we recieved precipitation, but the pattern is obvious.You didn't 'see' the pattern Fk because you chose not to look for it. If you read the thread you will see that I was able to predict, two weeks ago and within a one day period, when the precipitation would fall here. I did this by seeing a pattern Fk. If you look at the first few days of the month on the beautifully displayed Lulu chart, you can also see it. Unless you choose otherwise. Samples were taken and analysis will be displayed once the testing is done. Any prediction on the quantity of Al & Ba in the rain Fk? 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 06-03-2003 11:12 PM
My bad ICU812--i thought it was "only" on these days.An interesting chart tho that FK linked to. I see the pattern. 
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker 537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 06-04-2003 09:05 AM
>>You didn't 'see' the pattern Fk because you chose not to look for it.<<whatever. 
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rainheart
Senior Member

174 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 06-04-2003 11:01 AM
Thanks ICU, I have just spoken with a friend in Edmonton who commented on the heavy precip. there the last couple days.But what really peaked my attention was the mention of green 'dust' (pollen?) that has been coating everything in Edm. for the last couple weeks. have you noticed this too? My friend claims to have never noticed this at any time in his almost 40 years of living in Edmonton. Despite my predilection to believing covert spray ops, I was hesitant to think this green dust was nothing more than natural phenomena. Then, lo and behold, I visit this site to find a post about green skies. Any chance you can take a sample of this green dusting? See you soon, Looking forward to some early July rain. Wishing you well!

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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-04-2003 05:18 PM
Witty response Fk.Yes Rainheart, an incredible increase in pollen production from mostly, our coniferous plant material. However, it is an unusual color, maybe retaining a sample is warranted. Our City forestry department claims that the drought has caused stress to the reproduction systems of all plant material and the biological process is signalling a need to over-produce pollen. A glance through the river valley displays brown and dying coniferous material along with the 10,000 + mature Fraxinus nigra (Black ash) that we lost last year. Also evident is a decline in the Betula & Pinus health. That's birch and pine for you Fk. Research clearly shows that ALUMINUM in acidic soil decreases the ability for plant material to survive. Coniferous plant material thrives in slightly acidic soil. For some strange reason (Maybe Putin knows) we are seeing ALUMINUM show up in most of the precipitation we recieve in Edmonton. The Aluminum and the drought conditions we have experienced appear to be having a negative effect on our woodys. Our City forestry department has also been presented with the 'lab results', but haven't commented 'officially' on the Aluminum. If the current rain sample contains Aluminum, we'll hit the media again. Onward!! 
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker 537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 06-04-2003 09:37 PM
>>Witty response Fk.<< I try However, That wasn't meant to be funny. >>That's birch and pine for you Fk.<<
What does any of your post have to do with the fact that there is no pattern of rainfall in Edmonton? F.K.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-05-2003 02:43 AM
c'mon now kocky it does look as if around the first of the month it rains...and while we are at it...it's june and in the 60's here.... froze my tail off at the diamond tuesday...can you warm it up a bit...I'm a tank top and shorts type guy  
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker 537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 06-05-2003 03:38 AM
Ya, and several other days each month.How bout 80s by next week? I have to coordinate with the Bunker Boss. He doesn't just let us cause weather anyplace we want to anymore cause some folks are getting suspicious. F.K. 
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim 3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 06-05-2003 12:41 PM
Great !64 right now at 12:48....that just ain't right for june... 
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rainheart
Senior Member

174 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 06-07-2003 10:33 AM
ICU812 - I am saddened to read about your description of the river valley.Did the forestry dept. offer up that explanation of increased pollen on their own or was it prompted by a query from you, or someone else? Can you offer any tips on tree species to observe? i am making a cross-continent tour soon. rainheart 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-13-2003 12:42 AM
It's not all bad, the river valley is still full of lush green growth and is as beautiful as ever. It just has a few..... brown patches.I think the forestry department is making the best analysis they can, with the information they have. Who'd ugh thunk that some of the problems might be coming from the very life blood of our plant material, the water. The 'drought' conversation comes up frequently as we replace dead trees and remove large monostands of ash planted as boulevard trees. Additional problem species are pine, spruce, fir, juniper and cedar. They don't like to drink Aluminum. It would be interesting to hear about your observations of these species during the journey. 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-18-2003 11:47 PM
Lab results of early June rain.Aluminum 0.044 mg/l Barium 0.005 mg/l Snap Lake diamond mine results. Regional area (a 31km radius) Aluminum 0.0093 mg/l Barium 0.001 mg/l 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 07-03-2003 08:02 AM
It's raining!!Chemtrail activity on June 29th & 30th. High winds identified by observers as a tornado went through Grimshaw Alberta July 1. Identified by Enviro Canada as high winds. More later 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 08-16-2003 08:30 PM
Extreme weather on the evening of August 09, 2003.From 2300 hrs to 2345 hrs the City of Edmonton received avg. 54.8mm of rain. "over two inches in 45 minutes" Basements flooded, LRT washed out in one area and service disrupted for days. No samples taken. Too dam busy with the forest fires. http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/08/04/altafires030804 http://www.canada.com/national/features/fires/
Who needs chemtrails when the province is covered in smoke. Samples will be taken from the rainfall that we get in the first week of September. You gotta like the graph; http://www.msc-smc.ec.gc.ca/climate/temperature_precipitation/precipitation_graphs/YEG.gif 
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 08-16-2003 08:38 PM
Nice seeing you again ICU812  That is some graph! the pattern continues it seems... Sorry to hear of your smokey province...speaking of which...this afternoon my own skies filled with thick smoke...and hard to breathe here.... cough cough 
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Wolf_Larson
Senior Member

The Sea 301 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-27-2003 11:05 PM
That graph reminds me of the fractal pattern refered to as "Cantor Dust." This is a common pattern in nature. Fractals are neat. Chaos is king! 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 09-27-2003 12:05 AM
Another visit by the KC-135 fleet. Persistent trails mixed with non-persistent trails. Twice today we observed aircraft on the same flight path with horizontal separation of twenty aircraft length or approx. 830m. 25 flights over various parts of the city with no obvious pattern. Investment will be made in sampling the expected coming precipitation within the first week of next month. Forecast: Heavy precipitation by the 6th of October. Lab results will be posted. 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 10-07-2003 10:15 PM
It's raining. After days of perfect fall weather a nasty system blew in. Not enough precip' for a sample. http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/24h/pages/YEG.htm?CAAB0103 Blue skies turned into a mass of fractured clouds with dark stripes and then --- the waves. Beautiful blue skies to awesome cloud formations. Almost as if, someone flipped a switch. 
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msu94
Senior Member
Tucson, AZ 159 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 10-08-2003 09:55 AM
How do you know it was KC-135s?
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 10-09-2003 08:44 PM
A good set of Bino's and a little knowledge.Mostly, I'm just plane nuts and these days KC's seem to leave a different exhaust pattern then other aircraft. KC-135 has a distinctive wing sweep and design, unlike 747/A-340/E-3A etc. Derek Wood produces some great aircraft recognition handbooks, which you'll find at your library. Anyone can spot a KC with a little effort.

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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 01-26-2004 01:06 AM
Here is the current data from our lab on the two samples we recently submitted.Ice rain ............. Aluminum 0.269mg/l Barium 0.016mg/l Snow .................. Aluminum 0.173mg/l Barium 0.020mg/l Each element is approx. 20X higher than what is found in 'natural snow'. Additional testing is required. Especially in areas where chemtrails are more prevalent. If these levels are present in my part of the World, I'd hate to see the west coast or Texas values. The effort shall continue. 
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