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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 11-18-2002 10:55 AM
Edmonton recieved approx. 2.5" of snow/ice rain precipitation between Nov. 8-12, 2002.A sterilized container as directed by nw labs was placed in an open secure area in the north end of the city. The sample was sealed after the collection period and delivered to the lab. An analysis was performed on Aluminum and Barium only. Aluminum 0.148 mg/l Barium 0.006 mg/l Cost of the test was $33.00 It is the scientific opinion of the lab that the aluminum content of the sample is HIGH and unusual. Past Baseline Results will be made available to us and will be posted as part of our corporations commitment to identifying the results of continued atmospheric testing and modification. Plant material chlorosis, as a result of plant inability to uptake nutrients may be an indication of metals (aluminum)in our mostly alkaline soils around Alberta. We shall continue to submit samples for testing and suggest others invest in this inexpensive method of determining the possible results of chemtrails. 
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Mech
Liberate your mind

Northeast USA 5171 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 11-18-2002 11:04 AM
Facinating.
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Winged Messenger
New Member

Louisiana 10 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 11-18-2002 12:01 PM
ICU812 Excellent report, keep up the good work.  
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LWR
Cognitive Dissonance
Menlo Park, Ca, USA 224 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 11-18-2002 08:20 PM
one site that had tested snow in Scotland and it was at .08 because of pollution, still not as high though. Then I found this page.... In atmospheric precipitation (i.e., rain and snow), aluminum concentrations up to 1.2 mg/L have been measured (ATSDR, 1999). The acid-leached concentrations of aluminum in rainwater samples collected in the North Atlantic for seven rainfall events ranged from 1.14 to 35.2 µg/L (ppb) (my note, that's from .001 to .035); total (dissolved plus particulate) aluminum concentrations ranged from 6.1 to 824 µg/L (my note, that is from .0061 to .824mg/l). During storms, higher concentrations of adsorbed aluminum occurred in the presence of high levels of suspended solids in stream surface water than in their absence. So I guess it depends on if they were measuring the total aluminum, aluminum particles or disolved aluminum http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/Chem_Background/ExecSumm/aluminum/Aluminum(6).html Above was sent to me in a private e-mail)

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1267 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 11-18-2002 11:27 PM
ICU812 Would you post the name of the lab that you used and the report that they sent you? Thanks
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emfx13
Moderator

Hayward Ca.U.S.A. 737 posts, May 2002
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posted 11-19-2002 11:37 AM
Right on for the effort,but you can test rain water sample's till your blue in the face...IT WILL NOT PROVE THE CONTAMINATION CAME FROM THE DIRECT RESULT OF CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING.There are to many pollutant's floating around,we NEED a sample from a higher elevation,preferably from the trail itself.Again GOOD EFFORT!!!
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Mech
Liberate your mind

Northeast USA 5171 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 11-19-2002 12:12 PM
Those samples should be tested for tetra-ethyl lead as well.
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Mech
Liberate your mind

Northeast USA 5171 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 11-19-2002 02:25 PM
Looks like you got Jay Reynolds panties in a wad........ http://pub31.ezboard.com/fcontrailsandchemtrails22884frm1.showMessage?topicID=922.topic LOL. I wouldn't try to post over there however. They are ALL ABOUT Censorship and a right wing agenda. Kinda' reminds me of our lovely government.... http://www.theylivenow.co.uk/audio/transmission.mp3 http://www.theylivenow.co.uk/audio/underground.mp3
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 11-19-2002 11:18 PM
We were encouraged to test precipitation by the results of soils tests we performed for the City. Electrical conductivity EC was extremely high (4.63)+ from two sources in different ends of the City. This level is considered toxic, however we were not able to ID the cause of the high readings. >>DavidI wasn't going to post the Lab name because any Environmental Lab can perform these analysis and its relevence isn't important. It looks like someone who I had previously held a great deal of respect for because of his research and reporting abilities has already posted the quality lab that others can use if they wish. The analysis should be in thermits mailbox as we've also forwarded it to our horticultural study group to try and determine if aluminum is the cause of some of the incredible stress we've seen in our forage crops and plant material. >>emfx you are correct, this does not prove that the al came from one of the atmospheric programs going on in Alberta. It does establish that our kids are being exposed to aluminum from some source. Ever catch snowflakes on your tongue J. Future analysis and tests from other areas will establish whether this should be an ongoing concern. The quantities aren't extreme, but even that much aluminum should not be there. Please do not fail to recognize the significance of the aluminum quantity within the sample. Our prevailing winds are from the NorthWest and the sample was taken from the NW corner of the City with very little industry beyond the City limits. Snow, like contrails is mostly made of ice, isn't it? Our question to the Lab reffered to their scientific opinion whether this quantity of aluminum was high and unusual coming from a snow sample, and their response was yes. Further aluminum research shows that some pulp mills emit less than 0.148mg/l of aluminum, even in their effluent. >>Mech, why the tetra-ethyl?

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Mech
Liberate your mind

Northeast USA 5171 posts, Sep 2002
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posted 11-19-2002 11:29 PM
Tetraethyl lead is used in aviation gasoline(prop planes) and causes cancer.Also ethylene dibromide is used in it to scavange the lead deposits from the engines themselves and prevents lead fouling of the spark plugs.As we all know...LEAD is poisonous especially to children.Allegedly it has been stated by some....ethylene dibromide(also poisonous) is used in JP-8 a more recent fuel produced for (NATO)/military turbine fuel used in TURBINE(jet) aircraft....also believed to be in chemtrails. I'm not too certain if in fact if ethylene dibromide is in JP-8 but it is in general aviation 100LL (prop planes) aircraft gas. More about JP-8 here........ http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum14/HTML/000003.html
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rainheart
Senior Member

174 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 11-20-2002 11:56 AM
ICU812 - have you sent this info to our local papers? Might want to get in touch with The Toxics Watch Society in Edm. for more info on Al and potential sources.I still havent made it to the Timmy's on the north side to chat. Were you at the Oct.4 meeting and info session on chemtrails here in town? rainheart 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 11-20-2002 02:35 PM
Rainheart-- All great ideas, we'll send out both soil and snow analysis.Let's make sure I get to the next meeting. World Organization For Understanding Chemtrails. Send me an email at wofuc@hotmail.com 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 02-12-2003 01:29 AM
When Aluminum FallsSnow sample results from accumulated or collected snowfalls 2002/2003. North Edmonton Feb. 04, 2003 Al 0.066 mg/l B 0.004 mg/l North East Edmonton Feb. 04, 2003 Al 0.030 mg/l Ba 0.002 mg/l Cardiff Feb. 04, 2003 Al 0.041 mg/l Ba 0.002 mg/l
(City of Edmonton Tap Water on Feb. 04, 2003 Aluminum 0.028 mg/l Barium 0.052 mg/l) North Edmonton Jan. 03, 2003 Al 0.085 mg/l Ba 0.018 mg/l West Edmonton Dec. 06, 2002 Al 0.373 mg/l Ba 0.021 mg/l East Edmonton Dec. 06, 2002 Al 2.83mg/l Ba 0.124 mg/l Note: Due to the high reading our lab suggested performing an additional "dissolved aluminum" test. Dissolved Al 0.027 mg/l North Edmonton Nov. 12, 2002 Al 0.148 mg/l Ba 0.006 mg/l The following test results are from the Snap Lake Diamond Mine environmental study. (Additional benchmark information is most welcome)
Local Study Area (within 500m of mine buffer zone) Aluminum 1 mg/l Barium 0.061mg/l
Regional area (a 31km radius) Aluminum 0.0093 mg/l Barium 0.001 mg/l As indicated in the "Regional" area, Aluminum was found at levels of 0.0093 mg/l and Barium at 0.001mg/l. "Edmonton results from the Dec.06 sample are nearly 250X higher than these 'benchmark' results".
The table is on p. 14 of 53 in the study, link: http://www.mveirb.nt.ca/Registry/EADeBeers/Section%2011%20 Environmental%20Health/11_1-6%20Environmental%20Health.pdf Reference: National Atmospheric Deposition Program/National Trends Network (NADP/NTN). http://nadp.sws.uiuc.edu/ Snap Lake Diamond Mine http://www.debeerscanada.com/files/snap/infrastruct.html US geological survey http://bqs.usgs.gov/acidrain/ Lowell Wood http://www.house.gov/hasc/testimony/106thcongress/99-10-07wood.htm Dr. Sven Israelsson http://www.met.uu.se/eng/forsk/sven.html
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JitsuGuy
New Member
32 posts, Feb 2003
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posted 02-12-2003 11:56 AM
Lead is also dangerous in that if your house is painted with it. It makes it much more difficult to see inside your house with their equipment. Kinda like superman. C'mon, you really think kids eating paint chips was the real reason? Obviously not, now that we know of chemtrails.Jits 
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE

heartland USA 1120 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-13-2003 11:16 PM
What?
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zoobie555
Wackadoo

Conroe, Texas, USA 150 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 02-17-2003 05:26 PM
I think that this is what JitsuGuy is refering to... hey Jits? you post the link to Medussa?"Lead: Demon or Saviour? You hear a lot these days about how bad lead is, how old lead based products such as paint and automotive fuel are causing people to die. Why, one would think that it was some sort of Global Crisis! In fact, the harmfulness of lead is a myth spread by various mind control groups to keep people from filling the environment with radiation retarding lead. The ability of lead to block radiation is common knowledge, the stuff of pop-culture reference. But what people don't realize is that psychotronic radiation is just as unable to get through lead as the more commonly known, and less encountered, types of radiation, such as x-rays. By ridding our cities of their lead-filled, mind control shielding smog blankets; our lakes of lead enriched fish; and our homes of healthy, lead based paint-flake snacks; we are being deprived of a major form of psychotronic protection. Question: Can lead foil be used in place of aluminum foil in a deflector beanie? Yes, it would work very well. The problem is finding lead foil. It is not as easily found as aluminum, and since all tests of aluminum have shown it to be highly effective in deflector beanie form, why put yourself out trying to find it? The advantages gained would be small and could be easily matched by increasing the thickness of the aluminum foil layers. In the future, when more people learn about aluminum's anti-psychotronic properties, will the same front agencies that have been involved in ridding our world of lead find some "health threat" in aluminum? How much longer until the FDA "finds" some link between cancer and aluminum soda cans? Will they start with warning labels or move directly to banning? Time will only tell." http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html 
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rainheart
Senior Member

174 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 02-21-2003 11:56 PM
Those latest lab results are incredible. With levels 250 times that of 'benchmark' results I'd be surprised if there wasn't some media that would do a story on this.Have you tried a press release? I've seen the first results that you showed me when we met before new years, and believe them to be from a credible lab. Do they have a problem being known to produce the results? What are their thoughts on the matter? It certainly makes one wonder (understated) where all that extra heavy metal is coming from. 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 03-21-2003 09:15 PM
March 16, 2003Another Sunday snowfall which was proceeded by a small amount of rain. (Leaving sparkles on the skin as the rain evaporated or ran off) Samples were collected and once again submitted to the lab for analysis. Total Aluminum 0.108mg/L Total Barium 0.066mg/L Let's again look at the Al & Ba levels around an active diamond mine. Within 500m of an area around the mine. Aluminum 1 mg/l Barium 0.061mg/l Now let's review what the Al and Ba levels are within a 31km area around the mine. Aluminum 0.0093 mg/l Barium 0.001 mg/l Current BARIUM 66X higher than "natural" levels Current ALUMINUM Over 11X higher than "natural" levels
Yes Rainheart, the Edmonton Sun ran an article on March 07, 2003 "Aluminum Found in Snow" Are these two elements showing up as a result of atmospheric manipulations from KC-135's petro011 & 012? (as watched from the vantage point of the control tower) It certainly makes one wonder (understated) where all that extra heavy metal is coming from. 
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PDXpilot
New Member
Portland, OR 20 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 03-26-2003 07:09 PM
"we NEED a sample from a higher elevation" I'm not sure if its testable, but if you can anylize air you could use air pumped into the cabin of a commercial jet that has been at cruise altitude for a while. Unourtunately, becuase this air will be so dry, it would probably need to be cooled below -40 to get any ice crystals to form.

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NewChemmie
New Member
2 posts, Mar 2003
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posted 03-27-2003 08:04 PM
Intresting test, are the any others like this I could read?
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Fibromaniq
Senior Member

Right behind you Red 37 posts, Feb 2003
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posted 04-12-2003 02:32 PM
Can you help me understand what conclusions we can draw from these very significant test results? That there are chemtrails? And due to the wintertime in Edmonton, it would not have been cloudseeding type of chemtrails, to reduce hail damage [remember that program run out of Penhold 100 miles south of Edmonton, in the 60s and 70's?]. That we are indeed being bombarded by way too much aluminum? - for what reason, do you have an idea? I think it could be to weaken us, make us senile so they can finish their plans for world domination and control; OR, to cause climate change, etc., also for control reasons. In any case, I think its all bad. Or do you see anything legitimate and worthy that your data might indicate they are doing this spraying of aluminum for? [they say the hail seeding thing is over, even though it worked 90% effective in reducing insurance claims from hails] 
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-14-2003 12:50 AM
For the sixth straight month Edmonton recieved precipitation within the first six days of the month.We were hammered with as much snow in a week, that usually accumulates over the entire winter. As part of a continued commitment to provide 'benchmark' data on Al & Ba levels in precipitation, samples were collected and submitted to our lab. May. 05, 2003 Al 0.020 mg/l Ba 0.001 mg/l I would consider these values as 'close to natural' as can be expected. There has been a minimal amount of 'unusual contrail development' over our part of the planet for several months. Coincidence? ......Forecast...... Precipitation on the 4-5th of June. """Edited from Nov. to May, cause I'm just learning my months"""
Thanks for pointing that out Lulu.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here 2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-14-2003 09:04 AM
>>For the sixth straight month Edmonton recieved precipitation within the first six days of the month.<<Most unusual ICU812! Perhaps the weather is already owned? >>Nov. 05, 2003<< I always figured you were ahead of your time dude!  
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ICU812
Senior Member
Edmonton, Canada 99 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-03-2003 09:24 AM
AS PER SCHEDULE.Once again Edmonton area is being saturated with precipitation, as forecasted weeks ago. Chem activity was obvious days before this system moved in. If we get enough precip. we will test for Al & Ba and post results here. Forecast: Rain in the Edmonton area in the first week of July, AS PER SCHEDULE. 
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Feelin Kocky
A Member
Underground Weather Control Bunker 537 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 06-03-2003 10:05 AM
What other days did it rain in Edmonton the past couple of months?Thanks, F.K. 
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