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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A. 737 posts, May 2002
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posted 09-22-2002 12:14 PM
Area 51, Truth Seekers 0 Bush reissues order keeping Nevada site secret. For more than four decades, an unusual alliance of mainstream lawyers, conspiracy theorists and UFO enthusiasts has tried to find out just what is going on at Groom Lake, Nev. — the top-security Air Force facility better known to fans of "The X-Files" as Area 51. Now they will have to wait at least another year after President Bush reissued an executive order Wednesday barring the disclosure of any information about the site. In the continuation of a drama played out every Sept. 18 since 1995, Bush signed the order to make sure that lawyers pursuing hazardous- waste claims against the Environmental Protection Agency could not get their hands on classified information about the site, which lies in the middle of a remote stretch of desert 100 miles north of Las Vegas. The government did not even acknowledge the existence of the site until the mid-1990s, when it had to begin responding to workers' claims of injuries resulting from hazardous waste practices. Even now, all the Air Force will say is that the area is used "for the testing of technologies and systems training for operations critical to the effectiveness of U.S. military forces and the security of the United States." It insists that "specific activities and operations ... both past and present, remain classified and cannot be discussed." Although exasperated government lawyers say nothing nefarious is going on at Groom Lake, they have gone to herculean lengths to make sure no one knows what is going on at Groom Lake. President Dwight Eisenhower began the process all the way back in 1955, when he issued an executive order restricting airspace over the site. Then, in 1995, President Bill Clinton raised the stakes by issuing an order clamping down on discussion or release of any information whatsoever. That was about the time attorneys for former government workers began taking their rejected medical claims to court. Those lawyers believe the government is trying to keep the site secret to avoid having to admit it mishandled hazardous materials, exposing the workers to toxic fumes when it allegedly dumped poisonous resins into open pits and burned them in the 1970s and '80s. There is another group, however, that thinks something else entirely is going on at Groom Lake — something spooky, something otherworldly. To this group, the site is known as Area 51, the nexus of the greatest government cover-up in history. It is, they say, where the government studies alien spaceships, where it keeps captured unidentified flying objects stored in underground bases, and where it conducts autopsies on aliens. Writers for "The X-Files" were able to dredge up numerous scripts from stories that have built up since May 1989, when a physicist named Bob Lazar told a Las Vegas television station about nine alien flying saucers he said were being held near Groom Lake by a rogue agency of the federal government. Lazar claimed that the government was studying the propulsion system of the spacecraft, which were flown to Earth from the Zeta Reticuli star system. According to Lazar, the Reticulans have been overseeing human evolution for a hundred centuries, and since they were found out, they have been cooperating with the U.S. government on a direct exchange of technology. The government, to the extent that it has commented at all, says Lazar's account is utter nonsense. More prosaically, mainstream scientists suggest, the government simply wishes to limit its liability as it establishes the Nevada Test Site at nearby Yucca Mountain as a storage repository for hazardous nuclear waste. Those alleging an extraterrestrial conspiracy say instead that Yucca Mountain was chosen precisely so federal researchers could have unfettered access to its stored nuclear energy sources via a secret underground tunnel. In any event, the government has argued that it cannot say anything about Area 51, and it has fought workers' lawyers zealously in court to keep government documents about the site sealed. One of those lawyers, Jonathan Turley of George Washington University, described the courtroom jousting with federal lawyers as "otherworldly." And every year since Clinton issued his executive order in 1995, the White House has reaffirmed the cloak of secrecy on Sept. 18. Presumably, as Agent Mulder would have it, "the truth is out there." Just don't ask the president. Source: MSNBC

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SPIDEY
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hayward ca 29 posts, Oct 2002
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posted 11-10-2002 01:40 AM
That was a very interisting report. Personally I think it is a waste dump for nuclear waste. They may inply the "X Files" theory just to hide all the damage they are doing to this planet. I mean c'mon so many labs in California alone, where are they to throw the bad stuff away? So the government doesn't mind us thinking they are holding aliens or spacecrafts as long as we don't spread the word that Nevada and the sorrounding states could go up one day. They would just probably blame it on someone else (Terrorists)or something like that. I don't know but it just doesn't make sense. Wouldn't you think if they were aliens they would communicate with someone other than the U.S government? 
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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A. 737 posts, May 2002
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posted 11-10-2002 12:15 PM
You could be right about the nuclear waste,they have done alot of testing that im sure create's bi-product,it make's sense also why they"supposedly"abondoned the installation.As far as alien's go they do contact other people,not just the government,i think that "open" contact with the gov. was first(roswell incident).
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emfx13
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Hayward Ca.U.S.A. 737 posts, May 2002
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posted 11-10-2002 04:56 PM

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zoobie555
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Conroe, Texas, USA 150 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-04-2003 11:22 PM
As for Area51 being a general nuclear waste dump site, I doubt it. With the work going on there, I doubt they'd want additional nuclear waste from other facilities in the U.S. being brought in and left there, for safety reasons. I'm sure there is probably some nuclear waste there and that is probably the reason for the excemption. I don't know what the rules are about gov't. disclosure of facilities where nuclear waste is stored or what the "official" classification for the work being done at area51 is and whether or not that classification would require nuclear power, but my guess would be that it does not include anything that would require nuclear waste being produced and therefore disclosure that nuclear waste existed at that site would uncover the truth about or at least contradict the "official" classification of the site leading people to believe that back engineering of confiscated UFO technologies is going on at area51 due to the amount of power and possibly radiation needed to power such craft. Just my theory. Nuclear waste is being stored at many locations throughout the country, but most of those sites are known to have nuclear waste on them as they are sites classified as having either nuclear reactors or nuclear weapons facilities. I think that the gov't. does intend to use Yucca Mtn. to store all nuclear waste, and I don't think they intend to tunnel into it from area51, although they just may be building plenty of other tunnels for other reasons in that area. But these are just my opinions. I meant to research some of this more, but haven't yet. I know there are risks involved with moving nuclear waste, but I'd have to say I'm for the storage site at Yucca Mtn. better to have it all in one isolated location and underground then all over the country stored above ground and much more vulnerable. It's just the lesser of two evils, not a great solution really. I don't know if I fully believe Bob Lazar, but I do beleive that the U.S. is covering up something at area51, or at least were and now maybe just covering up what had gone on there. I also beleive that it did have something to do with an alien/UFO coverup and possibly back engineering of UFO technology, as well as the building and testing of secret military aircraft. Whether or not the bodies of the aliens from the Roswell incident, assuming they exist, are/were actually kept there, will probably never know. It is possible that the gov't wanted us to believe that is where they were, so that we would focus our attention to that area and not where they were really taken. Our gov't. has a funny way of acknowledging things eventually, but almost never until the "next generation" of a similar thing is already in place. Keeping the CIA secret until the NSA had been secretly active, not acknowledging the existance of the NSA until recently now that ???? has been established. Etc. The government acknowledges the existance of area51 and has given it an official classification, I doubt there is anything of interest there anymore but last generations secret aircraft and a few barrels of nuclear waste that shouldn't be there and other things relatively mundane in comparison to what is almost certainly going on someplace else. Most likely a location that even the most serious conspiracy theory buffs have yet to consider. 
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