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electricmojoman
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332 posts, Feb 2004

posted 04-22-2004 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmojoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like the masterdebaters are circling the wagon. lol

quote:
You know, I made a vow not to communicate with you, but you really think you are a know it all, and are operating on a higher plane than anyone else.

I guess that makes Lex king then. A person with only 50 post needs to restrain his/her view on such a manor as Boomer's credibility when it comes to this issue. She's put in the time and hours to have this right.

I think I am going to shorten my time frame for leaving this forum beause this should be a no brainer. I've been a moderator for sometime now and nothing will ruin a cause and send good people away like these minions.

I think tomorrow is my drop off date. If i continually get attacked after that i'll just have to accept it and so will all of you.

mojo

[Edited 1 times, lastly by electricmojoman on 04-22-2004]

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JerseyBluEyz
Trust the Universe


Northeast
1044 posts, Jul 2003

posted 04-22-2004 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JerseyBluEyz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Swamp is right that this is a chemtrail site. But I admit I like having a “one stop forum” where I can discuss almost any topic that interests me. One thing I have noticed -- if a member behaves in a debunking manner when chemtrails are discussed, they will continue to conduct themselves the same way in other areas of discussion. This happens at least 95-98% of the time. There are VERY RARE instances when they might agree with a particular point, but I’m sorry, when those times occur my radar kicks in and I wonder why – as if something is wrong. LOL!

It's good to know that this issue is being discussed! Thanks for telling us Mech.

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swamp gas
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Jersey City
159 posts, Jun 2001

posted 04-22-2004 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Boomer Chick:
You'll get over it, swamp! Thanks for name calling once again! I wonder if I was a man, if you would be responding to me the way you are? Your derisive comments do not help one bit!

I am an equal opportunity responder. Oh, I see, The Men Haters Club, Hah! I have heard this crap from female Pagans who say things like, "Males are Snails". I have heard from MAchos, "Woman should be in the kitchen". Somebody has a vivid imagination on social-sexual roles, and it ain't me.

Sometimes you sound like a New Jersey truck driver, and get the even-handed response.

Don't call somebody's life style and Commitment to health "BS", and you'll find Thetaloops and I VERY caring people.

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swamp gas
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Jersey City
159 posts, Jun 2001

posted 04-22-2004 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by electricmojoman:
Looks like the masterdebaters are circling the wagon. lol


quote:
Originally posted by swampgas:
Mojoman, I am amused and enlightened by some of your posts. You are much more a valuable asset than Letxa, because on some other forums, there are people like him that do exactly the same.

I praise you, mojo, and this is the thanks I get!

Wrong person to pick on, so why don't you fight your own fights, and let others fight theirs.



[Edited 1 times, lastly by swamp gas on 04-22-2004]

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Boomer Chick
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Colorado
407 posts, Sep 2003

posted 04-22-2004 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boomer Chick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JBE, you made a valid point about those who argue against chemtrails generally dismissing and arguing just about every other topic!

All the more reason to cull them out before joining and ban them as soon as they express anti-chemtrail postures!

Swamp, you're looking for a battle that never was there.

I have contacted Thermit and I hope all the members will continue to respond to the changes proposed.

It'll take some time.

I don't think we have to narrow the board forums to only chemtrail discussions.

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halva
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Greece
376 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-22-2004 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I missed out on whatever it was that caused the breakdown in relations between BC and Swampgas. Is it on-line somewhere so that I can study it?

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Boomer Chick
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Colorado
407 posts, Sep 2003

posted 04-22-2004 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boomer Chick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's under "other trails" in the "John Kerry Supports Gun Control" thread. It was an offshoot discussion on veganism and spirituality as well as veganism verses those who eat organic poultry and safe fish along with organic produce.

Please read.

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mark sky
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posted 04-23-2004 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
read the thread
once through
digestion soon

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halva
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Greece
376 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-23-2004 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K. Read through it.

Are we going to get anywhere with this renewed anti-debunker initiative or is it going to peter out?

I suspect that it is going to peter out.

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Thermit
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Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000

posted 04-23-2004 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please be assured that this matter is under consideration.

In the meantime, I'd like to ask that members avoid swearing and engaging in flamefests with others.

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David
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1280 posts, Oct 2000

posted 04-23-2004 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH LOOK! I've found another two cents to spend on comments, so here goes...

This is how most all conversations on rule changes end up, with infighting amongst the members. This is a great board, the mods are doing what they are supposed to do and most of the rules work well. There are a few (rules) in my opinion that need fixing but generally the board runs smoothly.

We all know who the main players are in the debunker crowd and these should be shown the door without delay or discussion. There is no real purpose for them being here other than to do what they do best, being a-holes and spreading hate.
There are places on the net for these vile creatures and it is NOT on CTC.
I would give a newby debunker ONE warning and ONE only, if the rules are not followed, exit stage left...
Any debunker attempting to return under a different IP or name, even one time, exit stage right...
And any current MEMBER breaking the rules should be treated the same way. Rules are for everyone not just a few.
However it would be much easier and better for the board in the long run, to tell debunkers "not here, go elsewhere".

Was that about 2 cents?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by David on 04-23-2004]

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halva
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Greece
376 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-23-2004 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the addition to the regulations that I proposed last year:

"CTC moderators reserve the right to exclude from the forum any person falsely claiming to know that a very large-scale programme of aerosol (chemtrail) spraying is not being implemented, or indicating explicitly or by his/her attitude or manner of that he/she regards as unworthy of serious consideration claims made by other participants that they do have knowledge of the reality of such an ongoing aerosol spraying programme."

This rule provides a legal cover so that the existing moderators will be able to remove the worst of the present-day troublemakers, and the future troublemakers that will follow them, without having to argue about what should be self-evident: that this is a board in the first instance for people who want to address the phenomenon that has been given the name 'chemtrails' and if possible do something about it.

The mistake we have made up until now is that of thinking it is possible to deal with people who come here wanting to fight a war, and handle them through application of the rules of private etiquette. Wars are fought according to the rules of war, and it makes no difference that the war is symbolic and verbal, with no real corpses left behind. Within that template, the rules should be in accordance with the reality, not with what we might like to be the reality.

I also support Boomer Chick's initiative, which if implemented would achieve the same effect as my proposed addition to the regulations.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by halva on 04-23-2004]

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swamp gas
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Jersey City
159 posts, Jun 2001

posted 04-23-2004 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for swamp gas   Visit swamp gas's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just make CTC a Geo-Engineering study site, and not include subjects like Spiritual, Political, Chemical, Science, Art, etc. The old saying is, if you don't want an argument; don't talk about religion, politics, sex, and drugs. These are some of my favorite subjects, and frankly, my POV on all of these is not mainstream, and has facilitated heated and caustic discussion.

As much as there are things to be learned, it turns out to be people shouting at each other, and deflects from the study of manipulating the earth and space's biosphere.

This way Chemtrails, Cloud seeding, scattering metallic particles, and other nefarious methods of weather control could be discussed without interruption.

There are plenty of sites for ghosts, angels, demons, flying saucers, gods, goddesses, chemicals, gay, lesbian, straight, technology, singles, and cooking. Keep this, as I said, specific, to Bioengineering. It's the only way we are going to have tensionless discussion. It would also force everyone to think more about chemtrails and such, and not be strayed into other, though very important, subjects.


[Edited 2 times, lastly by swamp gas on 04-23-2004]

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Mech
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posted 04-23-2004 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The moderators and webmaster have made their final descison regarding Letxa2000.The majority has ruled in favor of dismissal.

Boomerchick, you will have to wait on your "request" to change the rules. Personally, I think the rules are fine. I suggest you continue your request with Thermit.

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Boomer Chick
Senior Member

Colorado
407 posts, Sep 2003

posted 04-23-2004 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Boomer Chick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Mech. I'm not the only one who's in favor of tightening the rules.

I will message Thermit to reconsider. Did you vote on the rewrite? Did all of you read the rewrites by halva and myself? That would be information we all could appreciate.

There was also a suggestion to restrict the board's topics. Could we have a reaction to that, either yes or no?

Would it be a possiblity to vote on this rewrite issue by the members also? Would that affect the decisions of the mods?

I will message Thermit.

Best,
bc

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Mech
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posted 04-23-2004 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again........I'm NOT in favor of changing the rules,OR the board topics for that matter... I think the rules are plenty strict...but I will discuss the matter with Thermit.

Its HIS board..I'll let him decide.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 04-23-2004]

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electricmojoman
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332 posts, Feb 2004

posted 04-23-2004 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmojoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as I am concerned, which you can decide if my concern counts, is that rules do not make a difference in this case. If you own a forum you can chose to do whatever you want regardless. Changed or not common sense should dictate that when a disinformant comes in here and proves beyond a reasonable doubt that he or she will not accept the premise of this forum should be given some room to prove their point but needs to get to it and move on.

The disruption was profound in here. If I had not come into this discussion Lex would have been here how long? Lex was and will probably always be the most professional disinformant I have ever seen. I take issue here more than most because I was, and still presently am, his main direct target. Which should put some merit to my message and web page. A few here came to my defense but not so much the leadership here. Mech was the only one in that category who at least participated. It also seems he is more active in the day to day operations.

I am very glad to see the change but it is starting to look like it was a one man change and not so much an acceptance of what we are all trying to change. Without Boomer taking an initiative and a democracy forming in here nothing would have been done. That kind of hands off approach on people who drive wedges goes against the grain of your cause here.

I have seen too many good people leave forums because of this. You almost lost 3 or 4 of your top poster in here. You should have a TON more respect for those people and respect their wishes. They own this board by proxy of putting their heart, mind, time and assets of information gathered.

To them and the single change. I salute.

I also apologize for my vulgarity and my own breaking of the rules. However, I feel like I was drivin to that point. No man or woman would have took what I did lying down.=)

peace,
mojo



[Edited 2 times, lastly by electricmojoman on 04-23-2004]

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Mech
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posted 04-23-2004 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah yeah..your sorry.. whatever.

Got anymore THREATS IE:.."Ban him or i'm gonna leave" Mojo?


Just remember YOU are treading on THIN ICE here too. That's a promise.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 04-23-2004]

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electricmojoman
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332 posts, Feb 2004

posted 04-23-2004 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmojoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My so called threat was not a threat for my leaving so much as I was going to give people a place to go where they could build their case in peace Mech.

But I will tell you what Lex. I will one up your little sudden attitude and attacks on me and I will leave. You seem to have gotten a chip on your shoulder because you were made to make a decision. It almost seems as if you didn't want Lex to go. Your postings since the departure is bearing that out.

Regardless, I have asked time and time again to be activated into the chemtrail activist thread but I still get nothing. That is on YOUR head. I asked you repeadily. I have a web page and a forum that takes on the rest of the areas in here I care about. The only reason I have an interest to be here is to be apart of the main chemtrail tracking and discussion. But I can't seem to get so much as a hello in that category.

So on your little quest to start being snippy with people NOW, after all that WE have been thru I will exit because you are a joke and besides. My mission is accomplished.

Peace out to all the great women in here!!! Catch ya on the flip side!

mojo

[Edited 5 times, lastly by electricmojoman on 04-23-2004]

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Mech
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posted 04-23-2004 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do your worst..and take your fans with you if you like.

Let's see if you come back.



And I won't even take CHEAP SHOTS at you when you are gone.

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electricmojoman
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332 posts, Feb 2004

posted 04-23-2004 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmojoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nah, I think I'll stay.

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mark sky
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posted 04-23-2004 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
go figure ?

i guess the mods are quarrkie and slow
yah just have to put up with the delay
i want answers NOW you say
patients the sword thrown

eternity such little time
to respond

you might notice the "world" rebounds that
nothing has changed
but it has

so we come here today
a discussion FORUM where rules of engangement
can be bent and alter ed
and many topics thrown
variouse bents of pol it i cal launches sought
but if truth be told we come here because
WE ALL SEE THE CHEMTRAILS
if yah don't
you are blind
eventually it all gets sorted out



[Edited 2 times, lastly by mark sky on 04-23-2004]

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halva
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Greece
376 posts, Apr 2003

posted 04-23-2004 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for halva   Visit halva's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The situation vis a vis open hostility to opponents of debunkers is getting worse.

Mech is becoming openly nasty. What a situation.

And why isn't mojo allowed into the chemtrails section?

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Mech
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posted 04-23-2004 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm....Halva,

Mojo NEEDS to PM Thermit for a Password to get into the Chemtrails forum.

By the way..your arch rival Letxa is no longer here.

Is that "nasty" enough for you?

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electricmojoman
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332 posts, Feb 2004

posted 04-23-2004 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmojoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mech, I have PMed and emailed all the moderators. You seem to be the one with most of the power to do stuff. I get nothing at all!

I have a question and I think it deserves your honestly Mech. Did you have a fondness of Lex? Are you and he friends?

You are acting like your a hurt man right now and it is all coming down to Lex isnt it?

tell us your honest feelings here.

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