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Topic: Minerals, part of the antidote? | Topic page views:
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-28-2001 10:14 AM
The following excerpts from the original article are the ones that really jumped out at me. I had misgivings about posting the whole article because my focus was not on fluoride, but rather on how to rid our bodies of toxic metals. Of particular importance are the mention of aluminum and of the role zinc plays in maintaining calcium, magnesium and potassium levels. The author mentions that he has previously discussed the ability of aluminum to greatly potentiate the toxicity of fluoride... *Zinc is probably involved in more body functions than any other trace mineral. Zinc is also involved in blood pH regulation. *This abnormality of bone mineralization suggests that zinc plays an important role in endochondral bone formation. *Of potentially extreme importance to humanity are the findings in test animals that zinc deficiency induced a chronic immunosuppression that persisted through the third generation of their offspring. *Zinc levels in brain influence other brain metal content. Zinc deficiency caused an elevation in copper concentrations in most brain parts. Levels of calcium, manganese, sodium and potassium, in certain brain regions, also appeared to be altered by the zinc status of an animal. *In rats fed green tea and black tea... zinc contents in the cerebrum were gradually decreased... While cerebrum calcium concentrations were also significantly reduced, aluminum levels increased. *Elevated blood copper and decreased zinc levels have been associated with episodic violence, hyperactivity, learning disabilities, and depression in humans. *Fluorides cause "zinc deficiency". *Low zinc status in rats impairs calcium uptake and aggregation of platelets stimulated by fluoride.
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-28-2001 10:21 AM
Sore Necks: From all of the reading that I have done on the alkaline-earth metals, it appears that Barium is a double-edged sword. Barium is deposited directly into the joints and bones. Indirectly, it appears that our bodies are mistaking barium, strontium, etc. as calcium and magnesium. Calcium helps with muscle cramps and together with magnesium, regulates heartbeat. Vitamin D is required for absorption of calcium, (we may not be getting enough of that either with the constant white-out conditions). 
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-10-2001 09:26 AM
Potassium: Earlier in the year I started experiencing heart palpitations, I know that there were some others at Carnicom that were experiencing them too. I reduced my caffiene consumption to 2 cups of coffee, and started taking Potassium Gluconate 90 mg. (3% of RDA) This seemed to stop the problem. It has taken me awhile to find the scientific info to back up my intuition, but I finally found it!Excerpts: The soluble salts of barium, an alkaline earth metal, are toxic in mammalian systems. They are absorbed rapidly from the gastrointestinal tract and are deposited in the muscles, lungs, and bone. Barium is excreted primarily in the feces. At low doses, barium acts as a muscle stimulant and at higher doses affects the nervous system eventually leading to paralysis. Acute and subchronic oral doses of barium cause vomiting and diarrhea, followed by decreased heart rate and elevated blood pressure. Higher doses result in cardiac irregularities, weakness, tremors, anxiety, and dyspnea. A drop in serum potassium may account for some of the symptoms.> A number of accidental barium poisonings have occurred following the ingestion of barium salts. The acute symptoms include excess salivation, vomiting, diarrhea, increased blood pressure, muscular tremors, weakness, paresis, anxiety, dyspnea, and cardiac irregularities. A severe loss of potassium can account for some of the symptoms.>Convulsions and death from cardiac and respiratory failure can occur. Magnesium> and sodium sulfate are antidotal if taken soon after ingestion since either salt will result in the formation of insoluble barium sulfate and prevent further absorption. http://risk.lsd.ornl.gov/tox/profiles/barium_f_V1.shtml

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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-24-2001 04:00 PM
It appears that electrolyte imbalances are realted to the ph of the body. IMHO the ph of EVERYTHING is off.Electrolytes: Fluid and Electrolyte Imbalances> * fluid volume deficit * decrease in cardiac input * decreased blood pressure * increased pulse * orthostatic hypotension * fluid volume excess * weight gain and edema * fluid shift -- symptoms similar to shock * skin pallor * cold extremities * weak and rapid pulse * hypotension * chemical substances that separate into electrically charged particles (ions) in solution * necessary for metabolic activities and essential for normal function of all cells Electrolytes’ Functions> * calcium is important in neuromuscular activity * magnesium is important in neuromuscular integration and parathyroid function * potassium is necessary for muscle contraction and sodium-potassium pump * sodium important in maintaining blood volume and interstitial fluid and extracellular fluid * an imbalance exists when the serum concentration of an electrolyte is either too high or too low * refer to Table 4-13 and 4-14 in Goodman and Boissonnault Clinical manifestations in therapy> * paresthesias * muscle weakness * muscle wasting * muscle tetany * bone pain Edema> * excessive accumulation in interstitial fluid * localized or generalized * generalized: * shortness of breath * ankle swelling * nocturia * orthopnea * decreased urinary output * weight gain * bounding pulse changes in venous and arterial blood pressure * PITTING EDEMA * usually secondary to salt retention http://www.arapahoe.edu/Faculty/Paula.Provence/PTA225/unit02.html 
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-24-2001 04:11 PM
More on electrolytes:Electrolyte Loss Electrolytes are mineral salts which conduct electricity when dissolved in solution. In the body, the bloodstream provides the fluid medium for electrolyte formation. Electrolyte deficiency or imbalance results in energy loss and fatigue. The disruption of balance or homeostasis that results leads invariably to disease. Nature forms electrolytes through a transmutation process wherein inorganic colloidal minerals are changed into a more usable crystalloid form. This occurs when water cascades over rocks, picking up minerals from the soil, tumbles over the terrain and forms vortexes. Most of us today, however, cannot look to our drinking water as a source of electrolytes. We drink, by and large, from stagnant, polluted sources. Such water is not only mineral deficient, but the minerals it does contain remain in the difficult-to-use colloidal form. Therefore, our best bet for obtaining unpolluted water that contains usable (crystalloid) electrolyte minerals is to purify our water mechanically (preferably through reverse osmosis) and add back the electrolytes. Be sure to select a true electrolyte formula, one that contains trace minerals in crystalloid form. Replacement of electrolytes will balance pH and stabilize osmotic pressure (the force on the inside and outside of cell walls). This will result in significantly lowering the risk of infection, increasing digestive efficiency, restoring peristaltic action, increasing oxygen to the cells, reducing water retention, correcting neuromuscular imbalances, improving enzyme production, regulating blood sugar levels and hormonal production, "chelating" (removing) heavy metals from the body and increasing energy levels. http://www.tldp.com/issue/157-8/157kids.htm This website is about juvenile crime/violence and MINERAL deficiencies. 
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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule

Buchanan Dam, Texas 119 posts, May 2001
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posted 07-25-2001 02:41 PM
Penumbra, this is really invaluable information! I'm so sorry I didn't read it sooner. I remember a time when I was having bouts of chronic bronchitis many years ago, and I "lived" on antibiotics and cough medicines. I read about a new weight loss diet at a health food store that involved taking potassium on a daily basis, and I purchased the recommended product, "K Factors" by Alacer, and proceeded to try it out. Because I was single at the time, my lifestyle and diet habits were not at all conducive to good health, so the only "healthy" addition at the time was the K Factors. Well, I didn't really lose any weight, but I never got bronchitis again, and about a year later I realized the addition of potassium had to have been the remedy. Just thought I'd tell that story in support of your above posts  I'm going to order some more K Factors NOW, because this pneumonia is still hanging in, and I am so tired of coughing and coughing and coughing...and of all the bodily reactions that go along with coughing ...if you know what I mean... A belated "THANK YOU!!", Pen, for offering information that holds the "key" to recovery. Electrolytes to the Rescue!! MollyGainYa, with love ------------------ UnHappyTrailsToUs UntilWeMeetAgain... 
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desert flower
KICKASS GODDESS
lala land 165 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-26-2001 12:48 AM
Wow! this is great info----it's pretty much what I came up with too---potassium seems to be key.----For heart palpitations I've found hawthorne to be really good. There is something I have come across lately ---every once in awhile I will get something like what I would imagine a heart attack to be. My chest starts seizing up----there's pain---but it's not really pain, but a kind of tightening feeling---but you just don't know if it's going to end. What I find is that I have to get up and walk around, and if nothing else is available--get a drink of water---all the time regulating my breathing. I usually carry Ginko Biloba in drop form---that gets blood through the system fast. Had one of these today. It's really scary because you can feel it come on stronger and stronger and you're not really sure if you can stop it. Yeah I'm sure it's all about mineral imbalance. Other than just fighting the idea of these chemical invasions, we have to learn how to offset the imbalances. Take care DF 
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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule

Buchanan Dam, Texas 119 posts, May 2001
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posted 07-28-2001 08:24 PM
Pen and Des Flower, I have to say, BE CAREFUL WITH THE POTASSIUM!! Typical impatient individual that I am, I took TWO 99mg. potassium gluconate tablets Thursday to "really get it in my system", and it just about shut me down!! I should have known better, because my husband almost went into a coma in April after his doctor doubled his dosage of Lasix and Potassium ER. Dummie me! My whole system slowed down, and I passed out for 2 hours in a half-conscious delirium. Man-o-man, that was scary!I have only since taken ONE tablet late on Friday, and I have almost been cough-free since then!! Potassium is a good thing - BUT - too little is BAD, and too much is BAD! Buyer beware!  Well, I have to go now. A big old black and beige spider just landed on my baby-girl's foot, and I have to get on the net and check out what kind it is!! He's waiting all zipped up in a baggie. YUK on spiders!! MollyGainYa, with love ------------------ UnHappyTrailsToUs UntilWeMeetAgain... 
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 07-30-2001 08:19 AM
I could kick myself for not adding a warning to that earlier post. So sorry Molly! The potassium that I have taken ( I've only take it when I had heart palpitations) was a meager 3% RDA. (Can't remember the mg) That small amount seems to do wonders... Also, I try to just be aware and increase bananas and potatos! Another option is to use Morton's Lite Salt which is 1/2 potassium, 1/2 sodium.
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 08-28-2001 08:40 AM
More on Magnesium:In summary, it can be stated that in intoxication with fluorine compounds, magnesium plays a protective role by countering and reducing the toxic effects of F-. http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.execpc.com%2F%7Emagnesum%2Ffl2.html

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