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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule


Buchanan Dam, Texas
119 posts, May 2001

posted 05-21-2001 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am really getting scared for my daughter, Katelynn. She had chills and a bad headache last night, so I gave her some kid's Tylenol and olive leaf extract before bed time, and I kept her in bed with me. In the middle of the night, she woke up because her nose was itching, and she used the palm of her hand to rub it in a circular motion. Then she asked for a Kleenex because there was a lot of drainage all of the sudden, and she blew her nose and went back to sleep. We didn't realize it until she got up in the morning that the drainage was blood, and it was all over both her palms. She blew her nose again, and it started bleeding again, but not heavily. I gave her an herbal allergy pill, and then when she brushed her teeth, she coughed up more blood, which was probably pooled in her throat during the night. She felt good otherwise, so I sent her to school, and she felt pretty good all day.

About an hour ago, 9:15 or so, she got her headache, neckache, and leg pains back, and the chills and sweats started, too. When she came out of her room to tell me she was feeling bad again, I noticed her cheeks and glands in her neck were all swollen. She was getting really weak in her legs, and just wanted to go to bed. There's no fever, so I gave her a big dose of olive leaf and some red clover to purify her blood. She went to sleep really quickly, and her little face was all red above her cheeks and still swollen across her jaw line and below it.

She has had all the required immunizations, so I don't really think she has the mumps. She had a parotid gland infection 2 years ago, but it didn't look like the same type of swelling and was only in one gland.

Has ANYONE heard of or experienced these symptoms? I haven't seen any chemtrails lately, but we've been overcast, and yesterday we had severe thunderstorms and heavy rain and winds. It seems like one of us always gets sick after any kind of rain, and the storms yesterday and last Sunday were incredibly sudden and just plain hellish. The prior Sunday's storm carried hail from pea, to marble, to golf ball, to baseball size, and it was SCARY! Do any of you get sicker after storms???

Please let me know any remedies you can offer, and I'll be waiting earnestly for any info you may have. Thanks in advance!

MollyGainYa, with love

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David
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1280 posts, Oct 2000

posted 05-22-2001 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Molly G
I am really sorry to hear that your child is so sick. I must be terrible for her and you both. In reference to getting sicker after storms.....not so much after storms,(we really haven't had that many here in n. Calif.) however after heavy spray days, we notice more problems with breathing and a general weakness, and usually joint and bone pain.
In the case of your little one, I would suggest taking her to a hospital emergency room to be looked at. Having exhausted your herbal resourses, this seems like your only recourse.
Please give her our love and a big collective hug from the chemtrail board.
Our thoughts and prayers will be with you both.
Please, keep us posted about Katelynn.

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WonderWmn93
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Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-22-2001 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow MollyGainYa, I would agree with David that you should seek Medical attention for your little one. There are so many things (viruses & bugs) that are out there these days, one just dosen't know. I know that I as an adult try and hold out from going to the DR or take herbs. But usually when one of my little ones gets real sick, I take them in to be seen by their DR. I hope things get better for you guys. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers
God Bless,
Melanie

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 05-22-2001 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WW....You need Colloidal Silver in your medicine chest.It seems to wipe alot of the symptoms.I wouldn't be without it. Try it and see if it works and if it does I suggest you buy a CS maker and do your own.It is expensive stuff to buy,easy to make yourself and the FDA would like to see it GONE! Buy one before you can't anymore because its a natural antibiotic.Good luck with your daughter.Its a killer to watch a sick child suffer because of something being done to all of us.

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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule


Buchanan Dam, Texas
119 posts, May 2001

posted 05-22-2001 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, thank you, thank you David, Melanie, and RTW!! Your very kind words are like medicine to me, and you'll be happy to know Miss Kate is doing MUCH better today. She had a fitful sleep, but awakened with just a little fatigue, and no other symptoms from last night....at least, I HOPE she was telling me the truth....this is her last week of school, and she's in the Spelling Bee today, and she's been known to "hide" her true "feelings" when the agenda calls for "up-and-at-um". I gave her another big dose of olive leaf and red clover, and off she went. I'm really happy school's almost over, so I can watch her more closely during the day.

RTW, we tried colloidal silver several years ago, but the 5PPM was not sufficient to make any difference the time Kate and I were almost dying from our first taste of chemflu in Austin. I couldn't even get out of bed for 12 days, and everybody wrote it off as a bad flu that wouldn't respond to any drugs. I know now that the 5PPM is not an effective solution, so I'm willing to try it again at a larger PPM.

The post in the CS topic by "loookinup" was fascinating, and I'm considering building one of those CS makers that the article gives instructions on. We don't have any extra money for any purchases right now, but as soon as we do, I'm going to invest in the parts and produce enough CS for everyone interested in my family and in my circle of friends. An ounce of "silver" protection IS worth a pound of cure!

Please don't think I'm an uncaring mother because I didn't take Katelynn to the ER or to the doctor. In our very small town ER you have to be on the verge of death to even be admitted, and our doctor thinks most symptoms are psychosomatic if you don't have fever over 101. It's so exasperating to seek help from people who look at you like you have "Munchows Syndrome"(sp?), or something...(That's where mothers inflict severe illness on their children, and then try to tell the medical staff how to heal them when all their efforts fail.) They are always suspicious of you when you prefer alternative medical therapies for yourself and especially your children....

Again, thank you for all of your concern, and I'll definitely give Kate a BIG hug for you all. She's a real trooper.

MollyGainYa, with love

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WonderWmn93
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Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-22-2001 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MollyGainYa.. I am glad to hear that your little one is feeling better I know what you are saying about the hospitals. It almost takes an act of God to be seen sometimes. So I understand I also had very little luck with the 5ppms of the Collodial Silver. Then I bought the 50 ppms and that seemed to kick it for awhile, and then the bug returned I did find out that they have some higher doses. The lady at the health store said that for me the 500ppms or the 1100ppms would probably do the trick, along with the GSE. So I will be trying both of them really soon. Once again glad she is feeling better. What is the olive leaf extract and what does it do? I take Red clover pills for PMS. Is there a difference between the liquid and the pills? Let me know if you would Have a wonderful day
God Bless,
Melanie

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-22-2001 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Molly, Last fall, when we all got the crud, my daughters and I did have some blood in the nose, and I had it draining down my throat. This seemed to be caused by extreme dryness. (Barium is extremely drying.)I would try saline spray and also gargling with salt water. Until it's gone.

Olive Leaf Extract is an anti-bacterial, anti-viral, anit-fungal. It works to strengthen the immune system.

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-22-2001 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a link for Olive Leaf Extract: www.alternativemedicine.com/whatshot/whatshot36.shtml

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-22-2001 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Molly, Please read the information about Herxheimer Reaction (aka "die-off"). It can be quite severe in some people. You may need to alter the dose of your daughter's herbs. I suggest you talk to an herbalist or a nutritionist.
http://www.mindspring.com/~turf/alt/reg/maladies/herx.txt

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Anne
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Napa, CA USA
123 posts, Feb 2001

posted 05-22-2001 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After making my own colloid silver, I put some in with distilled water into a nasal spray bottle and use it when my nose is dry or stuffed up. It works very quickly.
My daughter also had increased nose bleeds and eventually they stopped. It may be preadolescents. I am not sure how old your daughter is.

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WonderWmn93
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Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-23-2001 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Penumbra.. thanks for the link for the olive leaf extract. I will have to put that one on the list to try. I went today and got some more Colloidal Silver and some GSE. I feel better already. I have had such horrible sinus problems for weeks now. I can finally breathe. I am going to also try the olive leaf extract. I think I need to also try and make my own CS generator to make my own. It is costing me a fortune to buy it. It just seems so complicated to make my own CS generator, but maybe my husband can put it together for me. I know I read somewhere how to make one, Oh ya I think Lookinup posted that the other day. I'll check into that. Anyway, thanks again for the link. I do have a question. What is the difference in PPMS for the Colloidal Silver? Is the higher the better? Or should you take the lowest potency as possible? I know the 50ppms worked for about a week and then the bug came back. I bought the 500ppms today. Also what is the difference in color. Some of them I have bought were the color of water and then others were dark in color? It can be very confusing. Thanks in advance
God Bless,
Melanie

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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule


Buchanan Dam, Texas
119 posts, May 2001

posted 05-23-2001 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, thank you ALL for your excellent advice and your heartfelt concerns!! You're right, penumbra, that Miss Kate could be displaying "die-off" symptoms, and I thank you for bringing that possibility back "to mind". All of us get a little worse after the first dosages of olive leaf or red clover, and I forgot to rule that in, this time. I can see that you and I frequent the same sites and newsletters for alternative health issues...GREAT minds run along the same channels!!

Melanie, the red clover is my LIFE SAVER in my battle with "meno-stop"...who wants to "pause" in THAT NIGHTMARE???? I started taking liquid extracts at first, but I prefer capsules now, just because I have extremely sensitive taste buds, and most herbal liquids are pookie! As for hot flashes, I have to take loads (4 caps a.m. and p.m.) to break the cycle, and then I have to maintain my hormone balance by taking 2 caps a.m. and p.m. I didn't connect it at first, but the blood purifying properties of red clover really help to keep the toxins "clearing out", if you know what I mean... I always notice a difference when I stop taking them. Do you ever get really weird nerve sensations through your legs and sometimes through your whole body that feel like chills running along your bones?? My whole family gets them, and it's usually at night right after we get in bed. Katelynn always jokes about having "8 year old hot flashes" because the soles of her feet just burn up, and she has to throw the covers off, even when the rest of her body is cold! Strange, strange stuff...

As for the color of CS, I've heard that it doesn't make a difference, and I've heard that is does...??? I had the same question when I would buy different brands and find such a difference in colors. Who knows?? Please advise us, Those-In-The-Know!

As for the nose bleeds, I was mentioning Kate's to a friend, and she said her son, who is 40, woke up with a serious nose bleed a couple of months ago and ended up having to spend three days in the hospital because it wouldn't stop! Yikes! He is a surgical assistant in the hospital he was admitted to, and the doctors diagnosed the cause as a sinus infection.(Don't they always...?) He lives just a mile from us in a lake front house, so I'm sure it was the barium along with a heavy smoking habit of his that caused it.

Our skies look pretty clear today, but I don't expect it to last too long. The sunrise over the lake had a long orangish line of haze in the eastern skyline, and I'm sure it will turn the usual smoky grey as the day progresses...We had two military helicopters fly directly over our house yesterday evening, and I ran out to watch them and try to identify them, but I wasn't "dressed" enough to run out too far, so I missed them. Kate said they were dark green with one following the other. Wish I could have waved..

Have great days, everybody, in spite of our dirty skies!

MollyGainYa, with love

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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule


Buchanan Dam, Texas
119 posts, May 2001

posted 05-23-2001 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(This makes me sooo mad! I just lost a long reply in this topic because of a crappy virus a friend of mine unknowingly sent me...a Norman Worm, to be exact. I guess it's eating up my Outlook Express files because I get disconnected from my ISP every minute, and I can't send any mail fast enough to get past the disconnect! If this is posted, it'll be a miracle!)

(Whoops! The miracle was that my first message WAS posted! I just had to delete the same message that also went through. Now my computer has chemflu!!!)

MollyGainYa, with love

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UnHappyTrailsToUs

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent


1280 posts, Oct 2000

posted 05-23-2001 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Molly Darlin'
Your virus is probably sending itself to everyone on your e-mail list.
Each time you open you mail program it is probably responding to new mail and sending itself out to that address.
New and nasty virus's are coming fast and furious these days.
Suggestion; when you recieve and e-mail with an attachment, delete the messange without opening the attachment. Most, not all, virus come to you in attaachments.
Some of the newer virus's can really eat your puter'.
Even friends can unknowingly send you a virus. David

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Lulu
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right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 05-23-2001 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MollyGainYa,

I'm glad your daughter is feeling better. My 9 yr. old son also has periodic nosebleeds which worry me, and like you I only go to the doctor as a last resort, choosing the herbal route instead. I swear by Cayenne Pepper and garlic oil. Good luck to you and your family

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WonderWmn93
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Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-24-2001 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MollyGainYa, I to use the Red Clover capsules, along with Dong Quai and Evening Primrose Oil. The combination of them works great for PMS. My mother also takes them for Menopause. She also takes Phyto Estrogen which has Wild Yam root. We get them all at Walmart. She dosen't get any hot flashes at all anymore. She feels great.

My daughter has had a hot flash on occasion, but the main problem that we are experiencing with her is that she is only 7 1/2 and the poor thing already is contending with body odor! Can you believe that? She has been doing it for over a year now. We have taken her to the Dr and they said she is fine as long as she dosen't have any other problems. We are now dealing with breast tenderness and you know right where the arm pit is. She gets a lot of pain there. Again I don't think there is much we can do except try and make her comfortable. I think that it is a combination of all the crap that they have added to our food supply. I hear that a lot of children are starting to experience these things at an early age. It is not fair to them. I didn't have they problems or worries when I was growing up, food was our friend and I think now it is more our enemy.

We have changed what we eat and where we buy it from now. We don't buy meat from the store anymore. We go to an old fashion Butcher shop that is all grain fed animals. We also buy a lot of organic produce and dairy now. She seems to be a lot better than she was I know of a friend, and her little boy is experiencing horrible nose bleeds lately. So bad that he was throwing up cause the blood was pooling in the back of his throat. I don't know what they are doing to us, but something is going on!
I hope that you guys all feel better
I have been taking the higher dose of Colloidal Silver and the GrapeFruit Seed Extract since yesterday and what a difference I am feeling today. Try the GSE if you haven't. I think this stuff is starting to finally clear my sinus infection I have had for weeks. Take care and God Bless,
Melanie

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MollyGainYa
Senior Mollycule


Buchanan Dam, Texas
119 posts, May 2001

posted 05-24-2001 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Melanie, my daughter and most of her classmates last year in second grade started having body odor; I feel so sorry for the teachers because a lot of parents "ignore" the problem even though I don't know how they can -- ??? I get newsletters from Robert Cohen at www.notmilk.com, and he addresses the sickening side effects of dairy products laced with growth hormones and antibiotics, not to mention pus and bacteria and microrganisms present in almost all milk and cheese. GROOOOSS!!! He fully attributes our children's problems to the lack of regulation and willingful oversight of the Dept. of Agriculture and the FDA. WE DON'T EVER DRINK MILK, AND WE ARE CUTTING WAY BACK ON OTHER DAIRY PRODUCTS!!!! It's a hard thing to do, especially when the elementary serves "free" breakfasts in the classroom, and milk is always on the menu. The kids have opened those little cartons and found black stuff floating around, and if no one drinks the milk on any given morning, it sits until lunchtime with no refrigeration and is then taken back to the cafeteria to be "reinducted" to the next day's breakfast. Our poor kids are attacked from the cafeterias AND the skies! How can they survive??? "My people perish for lack of knowledge." Yes, Lord, we're getting the picture...

Our skies have been pretty clear, "thank you, Lord", but I see chemjets on the horizons with trails that only last a very short time, almost like true contrails.... HA! ...make us all look crazy for a couple of days, so our families and friends can say, "Seeee, there aren't any clouds forming from those trails!!" Lock me up - I don't care! I know that I know that I know...we ARE under attack.

MollyGainYa, with love

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000

posted 05-24-2001 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Molly, that is a good subject, Milk. I created a new health topic for it here.

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WonderWmn93
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Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-25-2001 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that a lot of young girls are experiencing these problems now. It is scary! I was just talking to my friend yesterday discussing this same topic and she said that her 6 1/2 yr old is also getting the body odor. I know it is caused by all the crap that they have put in our food supply. They have ruined our food! My daughter dosent go to school anymore, because we homeschool now. It is a big difference. She dosent have to experience a lot of that wonderful stuff they do in the public school We are all much happier for that now.
God Bless,
Melanie

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