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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 08-18-2001 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess we aren't dying fast enough or sleeping deep enough.The authorities seem to feel we need MORE flouride!

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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 08-18-2001 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
International scientists concur that dental fluorosis is a FORESEEABLE event from fluoridating drinking water, and the victims are at increased risk for psychological and behavioural problems.

We don't flouridate our drinking water here in Kelowna, nor do I use flouridated toothpaste, or visit a dentist (I wasn't impressed with the the water bath used to "sterilize" equipment...this does not prevent the spread of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) which requires temperatures of 1000 degrees to kill). In spite of these things I don't use and do I have the healthiest teeth of any person I know...same for my children! The key is proper flossing and brushing and also avoiding sugary drinks like soda pop and garbage like candy!!!! This is what prevents cavities, NOT flouride IMO.

btw, I have a friend who hasn't seen a dentist in years or use flouridated toothpaste either. His main dental "program" is gargling daily with salt water. He has excellent teeth! with no cavities or decay of any kind.

At least THREE MILLION people in England suffer from dental fluorosis. The Government's York Review on water fluoridation showed that about THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION people have dental fluorosis which is "of concern". No studies have ever been done on the psychological damage caused by fluorosed (stained) teeth. A 1998 survey showed that people with defective teeth are more likely to experience social and employment discrimination. Half of the respondents saw unattractive teeth as a sign of poor personal hygiene. International scientists concur that dental fluorosis is a FORESEEABLE event from fluoridating drinking water, and the victims are at increased risk for psychological and behavioural problems and difficulties. This can be the subject of litigation against those who promote and implement water fluoridation.

Those involved in the promotion and implementation of water fluoridation are vulnerable to significant legal liability. Reparations for the foreseeable consequence of dental disfigurement are likely to be further compounded by punitive damages which can be awarded for subsequent psychological pain and suffering experienced by the Plaintiff.

According to the UK Government's systematic scientific review on water fluoridation, carried out at York University, about forty eight per cent of people living in fluoridated areas are affected by dental fluorosis.

In England, this translates to nearly three million individuals who have fluorosed teeth to some degree. For three quarters of a million people , dental fluorosis is of the "moderate to severe" degree. The condition is characterised by white chalky spots or brown staining and pitting of their teeth.

Dental fluorosis is extensively described by toxicologists as the first visible sign of chronic fluoride poisoning . The result of over-exposure to fluoride was well understood by the dental profession until the early 1950s.

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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 08-18-2001 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7amNews has learned that many medications are packing a potentially lethal hidden dose of fluoride, a chemical that some claim is slow poison. Over the past several years, numerous fluoride-containing medications have been pulled off the market for causing deaths and illness.

Fluoride is "highly toxic to the liver," expert Andreas Schuld of Vancouver, BC Canada said.

Schuld, head of Parents of Fluoride Poisoned Children, explained that "In the liver all fluorides interfere with the metabolism of thyroid hormones, creating thyroid disorders and associated diseases, such as muscle diseases ….heart disease, etc." Other effects can include a serious muscle disease that causes pain and weakness.

He cited the recent withdrawal of Baycol, a cholesterol-lowering drug taken by 700,000 Americans, as an example of hidden fluoride-induced dangers that could be lurking in your medications. Baycol, Schuld said, has been linked to 31 U.S. deaths, with at least nine other fatalities worldwide.

Schuld told 7amNews that Bayer AG, the company that makes Baycol, would not release international statistics about potential harm from the drug. However, the European Medicines Evaluation Agency immediately began a safety review of other drugs in the same class as Bayer 's "Baycol." Bayer AG reportedly withdrew the drug in a "voluntary" recall late last week.

7amNews has attempted to contact Bayer AG for a statement, but has not received a response.

What's all the uproar? Schuld provided a basic biological-chemical lesson:" Fluoride is any combination of elements containing the fluoride ion. In its elemental form, fluorine is a pale yellow, highly toxic and corrosive gas. In nature, fluorine is found combined with minerals as fluorides……. With hydrogen it forms hydrogen fluoride gas which, in a water solution, becomes hydrofluoric acid...Fluorine compounds or fluorides are listed by the US Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) as among the top 20 of 275 substances that pose the most significant threat to human health."

Although most U.S. cities have routinely treated water supplies with fluoride for years, Schuld and others in his group believe that the buildup of fluoride from various sources, including medications, will harm rather than cure. He cited a shocking fact: In 2000, 3M announced a phase-out of Scotchgard products after discovering that the product's primary ingredient-a fluorinated compound called perfluorooctanylsulfonate (PFOS)-- was found in all tested blood bank examinations . Even animals in the wild, including eagles and bears, were found to have these chemical contaminants in their bloodstream.

Further research by 7amNews found that these PFOS are fluorocarbons, and are related to CFCs, now banned in order to protect the ozone layer. According to the Environmental Working Group, "Although research is still evolving, PFOS are known to damage the liver and to produce severe birth defects in lab animals, among other health effects." The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says PFOS chemicals combine "persistence, bioaccumulation, and toxicity properties to an extraordinary degree."

The EWG maintains public access archives on issues related to chemicals and public safety. Its records also state: "The more than 1,000 documents in EPA's Administrative Record on Scotchgard-some 29,000 pages of material--show clearly that 3M knew its products were in the blood of the general population as early as 1976 and had detected PFOS in their own plant workers as early as 1979."

The tenacity of fluoride buildup has Schuld and others concerned. He told 7amNews that the inorganic form of fluoride "… used in the fluoridation of public water supplies is a waste product from the fertilizer industry." Americans especially are at risk absorbing the chemical via their skin because of the wide-spread use of chemical fluoridation of water.

That danger, Schuld believes, is only multiplied by the adding of organic fluoride compounds to medications. His documents include a shopping list of once-popular medicines now withdrawn due to safety concerns:

Cisapride ("Propulsid") was withdrawn because it caused severe cardiac side effects (2000);

Mibedrafil ("Posicor") was withdrawn after it was shown that patients with congestive heart failure showed a trend to higher mortality (1998);

Flosequinan was withdrawn in 1993 after it was shown that the beneficial effects on the symptoms of heart failure did not last beyond the first 3 months of therapy. After the first 3 months of therapy, patients on the drug had a higher rate of hospitalization than patients taking a placebo;

Astemizole (allergy drug) was withdrawn in 1999 because it also became associated with serious life threatening cardiac adverse events;

Fenfluramine and dexfenfluramine were withdrawn in 1997 due to serious cardiac adverse health effects;

Tolrestat (anti-diabetic) was withdrawn in 1997 after the appearance of severe liver toxicity and deaths;

In 1992 Abbott withdrew the antibiotic Temafloxacin ("Omniflox"). The drug had caused deaths, liver dysfunction, etc.

Grepafloxacin was removed from the market in 1999 because of serious cardiac events.

In addition, Schuld cites concerns about both Paxil and Prozac, popular anti-depression drugs. He claims that the fluoride-enhanced drugs not only have a risk of causing liver damage, but also interfere with thyroid hormones and potentially even with thyroid medications routinely taken by millions.

Citing the well-publicized case Fen-Phen, a once-popular weight-reducing drug, Schuld said that "it is important to note that only the fluorinated compound ("Fen" - fenfluramine) was withdrawn, while Phentermine ("Phen") was not pulled."

The worry and ensuing investigations about fluoride in medicines are worldwide. Among them are yet another class of drugs: antibiotics. Schuld's documents cite international concerns about fluoroquinolone antibiotics, which are used in the treatment of a large variety of infections.

In October 1994 the Japan Pharmaceutical Affairs Bureau amended the product information for Enoxacin, Fleroxacin, Norfloxacin, Sparfloxacin and Tosufloxacin to state that rhabdomyolysis may occur. Information on Adverse Reactions to Drugs No.128, October 1994.) Five years ago, the Sri Lanka Drug Evaluation Sub-Committee decided to include a warning statement about fluoroquinolone antibiotics.

Back in the U.S., Steinberg Law Firm of Houston, Texas is currently investigating injury claims related to Baycol. Its website states: "in 1999, the Food and Drug Administration ("FDA") approved Baycol/ Lipobay (cerivastatin) for patients with primary hypercholesterolemia (elevated cholesterol) and mixed dyslipidemia (elevated cholesterol and high triglycerides). While Baycol has reportedly helped some, it has injured others. It is reported to sometimes cause muscle problems (Myopathy) leading to kidney damage (rhabdomyolysis). Symptoms can include unexplained muscle pain, tenderness or weakness accompanied by malaise or fever. Rhabdomyolysis is a rare condition where serious muscle damage results in release of muscle cell contents into the bloodstream."

How can consumers protect themselves? 7amNews asked Schuld how a patient could tell if their prescription contains a fluoride-bearing compound.

"It is next to impossible," Schuld said bluntly. He added "One needs to look at the product insert to see if the actual chemical compound is described. It is usually listed as "fluoro"-something, or as "F" in the chemical formula. The best way is to go to one of the sites on the Internet listing product monographs, such as and to look up the product in question."

However, he noted, the fluoride often is hidden in another chemical additive: gelatin made from cow-bones, or among phosphates.

In essence, the consumer, taking medications because of illness, has almost no way to check out whether or not their pills contain a chemical that could potentially make them even sicker -- or kill them.

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Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-19-2001 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanx so very much Lulu for the above ifo!!! I know one thing, the dummie Army doctor put me on Zoloft, (just like Prozac)...same type ingredients, as he said it helps Fibromyalgics. Donkey pooh...I,m gonna "ween" off that stuff, as I seem more depressed now than before on the stupid stuff, more mood swings, and it is one of the meds that has floride ingredients to the hilt also. Forget that!! It's one you shouldn't stop in one day, it's the kind of pill that should be slowly weened down off of or may cause reactions...but I started cutting dose today. I don't see where it ever helped my physical symptoms or sleep problems as was promised. I'm done fooling around with some junk like that. I have heard too much bad stuff about it, what it does, and what is in it! Thanx again! Joanne ^j^

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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 08-19-2001 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're very welcome Delphi I started cutting dose go girl!!!

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9 posts, Jun 2001

posted 08-19-2001 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savdgp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know what water filter or filtering process will rid us of the flouride, something reasonable in cost?

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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 08-21-2001 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brita and Pur filters won't cut it, Sav. You'd have to drop a couple grand on a filtration system. Best thing to do is buy distilled water from the grocery store. You're still going to be exposed in the shower, though...

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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 08-22-2001 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No...No...No....Chem....! They have just started including a certain additive to ALL bottled water that when combined with its
being ozonated, which they now must do,it turns into bromide or bromine(which ever is the toxic one.I think bromide) Carcinogenic. I will try to find some info.A friend spoke to the people at saratoga water and was told by them about this latest move.Not good!You can call saratoga and ask.

As for the water filter there is a good one that Dr.Hulda Clark advises as far as purity and it only costs 140.00. I'm using it until I can afford a distiller one day.Its called a mini nimbus2.It really seems to work well.
99% guarantee on the removal of toxic matter.Flouride included.

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