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Topic:   INTERESTING RESEARCH by Palden Jenkins

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1203 posts, Jul 2000

posted 11-12-2001 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By Palden Jenkins

This research (particularly concerning the depth of time) reminds me of what I used to talk of in the 1990s, about penetrating to the 'heart of the world' in order to interact with and affect the underlying patterns of world events. This is interesting. Although many of you will have intuitively known what follows, it's interesting that it is now coming up in scientific research, and, as always, there's an extra twist the research brings up which is relevant to each of us in our own fields of interest.



BY NOW, I suppose you are thinking about anthrax. If so, you will be happy to get the news I have from Gregg Braden, author of The Isaiah Effect and Awakening to the Zero Point. I attended one of his all-day intensives on Sunday Oct 14th and what I am going to tell you is only a SMALL portion of the information he covered.

The title of this program was Healing Hearts/Healing Nations: The Science of Peace and the Power of Prayer.

He started off discussing how in the past we lost huge amounts of information from ancient spiritual traditions (when the library at Alexandria burned we lost at least 532,000 documents), and that there may be information in those traditions which could help us understand some of the mysteries of science. To this end he reported on three very interesting experiments. Gregg Braden started off as a scientist and engineer before he began pursuing these larger questions.


The first experiment he reported was done by Dr. Vladimir Poponin, a quantum biologist. In this experiment, first a container was emptied (i.e., a vacuum was created within it), and then the only thing left in it were photons (particles of light).

They measured the distribution (i.e., the location) of the photons
and found they were completely random inside the container. This was the expected result. Then some DNA was placed inside the container and the distribution (location) of the photons was remeasured. This time the photons were LINED UP in an ORDERED way and aligned with the DNA. In other words, the physical DNA had an effect on the non-physical photons.

After that, the DNA was removed from the container, and the distribution of the photons was remeasured again. The photons REMAINED ORDERED and lined up where the DNA had been. What are the light particles connected to?

Gregg Braden says we are forced to accept the possibility that some NEW field of energy, a web of energy, is there and the DNA is communicating with the photons through this energy.


These were experiments done by the military. Leukocytes (white blood cells) were collected for DNA from donors and placed into chambers so they could be measure electrical changes. In this experiment, the donor was placed in one room and subjected to "emotional stimulation" consisting of video clips, which generated different emotions in the donor.

The DNA was placed in a different room in the same building. Both the donor and his DNA were monitored and as the donor exhibited emotional peaks or valleys (measured by electrical responses), the DNA exhibited the IDENTICAL RESPONSES AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. There was no lag time, no transmission time. The DNA peaks and valleys EXACTLY MATCHED the peaks and valleys of the donor in time.

The military wanted to see how far away they could separate the donor from his DNA and still get this effect. They stopped testing after they separated the DNA and the donor by 50 miles and STILL had the SAME result. No lag time; no transmission time.

The DNA and the donor had the same identical responses in time. What can this mean?

Gregg Braden says it means that living cells communicate through a previously unrecognized form of energy. This energy is not affected by time and distance. This is a non-local form of energy--an energy that already exists everywhere, all the time.


The third experiment was done by the Institute of Heart Math and the paper that was written about this was titled: Local and Non-local Effects of Coherent Heart Frequencies on Conformational Changes of DNA. (Disregard the title! The info is incredible.)

This is the experiment that relates directly to the anthrax situation. In this experiment, some human placenta DNA (the most pristine form of DNA) was placed in a container from which they could measure changes in the DNA. Twenty-eight vials of DNA were given (one each) to 28 trained researchers. Each researcher had been trained how to generate and FEEL feelings, and they each had strong emotions.

What was discovered was that the DNA CHANGED ITS SHAPE according to the feelings of the researchers: 1. When the researchers FELT gratitude, love and appreciation, the DNA responded by RELAXING and the strands unwound. The length of the DNA became longer. 2. When the researchers FELT anger, fear, frustration, or stress, the DNA responded by TIGHTENING UP. It became shorter and SWITCHED OFF many of our DNA codes!

If you've ever felt "shut down" by negative emotions, now you know why your body was equally shut down too. The shut down of the DNA codes was reversed and the codes were switched back on again when feelings of love, joy, gratitude and appreciation were felt by the researchers.

This experiment was later followed up by testing HIV positive patients.
They discovered that feelings of love, gratitude and appreciation created 300,000 TIMES the RESISTANCE they had without those feelings. So here's the answer to what can help you stay well, no matter what dreadful virus or bacteria may be floating around. Stay in feelings of joy, love, gratitude and appreciation!

These emotional changes went beyond the effects of electro-magnetics.
Individuals trained in deep love were able to change the shape of their DNA. Gregg Braden says this illustrates a new recognized form of energy that connects all of creation.

This energy appears to be a TIGHTLY WOVEN WEB that connects all matter.
Essentially we're able to influence this web of creation through our VIBRATION.


What do the results of these experiments have to do with our present situation? This is the science behind how we can choose a timeline to stay safe, no matter what else is happening. As Gregg explains in The Isaiah Effect, basically time is not just linear (past, present and future), but it also has depth. The depth of time consists of all the possible prayers and timelines that could ever be prayed or exist. Essentially, all our prayers have already been answered. We just activate the one we're living through our FEELINGS. THIS is how we create our reality--by choosing it with our feelings. Our feelings are activating the timeline via the web of creation, which connects all of the energy and matter of the Universe.

Remember that the law of the Universe is that we attract what we focus on. If you are focused on fearing whatever may come, you are sending a strong message to the Universe to send you whatever you fear. Instead, if you can get yourself into feelings of joy, love, appreciation or gratitude, and focus on bringing more of that into your life, you are going to avoid the negative stuff automatically. You will be choosing a different TIMELINE with your feelings.

You can prevent getting anthrax or any other flu, virus, etc, by
staying in these positive feelings, which maintains an incredibly strong immune system.

So here's your protection for whatever comes: Find something to be happy about every day, and every hour if possible, moment-to-moment,
even if only for a few minutes. This is the easiest and best protection you can have. If nothing else, be joyous that the criminals have "already been caught" by the Universe!

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Ellyn on 11-12-2001]

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Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts

Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 11-12-2001 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your contribution, Ellyn. Since this is the Science Forum, I need to ask a few questions to get a better understanding of how those experiments were performed.

1. Was this genomic DNA or mitochondrial DNA?

2. Was it dried, or in solution?

3. How did they determine the configuration of the DNA? Gel electrophoresis is the usual method, but it takes hours, and it does not work on undigested genomic DNA.

4. Did they use any control DNA to compare its response during these experiments? Perhaps DNA from yeast or bacteria would be a good choice.

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2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 11-12-2001 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ellyn, fascinating post. While reading it I couldn't help but wonder if there were any different results in male VS female test subjects and their affect on the DNA given that women supposedly are more in tuned with their emotions/feelings. This got me thinking of the inequality many women world-wide experience and the imbalance of energies in this male-dominated society we find ourselves in. If we create our own realities through feelings, then why do women consciously choose to be the "inferior" sex?

How does aroma figure in this equation? Odors are powerful memory/feeling triggers; did any of the 28 trained researches utilize aroma in their study?

Can you provide a link Ellyn? Thanks!

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Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 11-12-2001 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something from another board that may fit here...atleast the graph does

I missed Rush....I wonder if his hearing isn't fixed though. I partook in the mass prayer for him to hear again on Art Bell. Princeton was doing a study at the time to measure mass consciousness, and Art also had his audience all concentrate on affecting their computer graphed random noise generator. As you can see by the spike on the graph… works.

I wonder what effect all this same mental energy had on Rush? (I hope there weren’t liberals out there concentrating on the wrong thing!). With liberals never know, he might mysteriously grow breasts or something...

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posted 11-12-2001 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lulu, if you type Palden Jenkins or Greg Braden into your search engine (I used Yahoo), you can learn a bit more about the works of these two. I have read AWAKENING TO ZERO POINT: The Collective Initiation by Greg Braden, and WALKING BETWEEN THE WORLDS: The Science of Compassion also by Greg Braden and do recommend both these books. Ellyn

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posted 11-13-2001 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ellyn, please check your inbox in the Messages section. Thank you.

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posted 11-13-2001 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just discovered this link:
THE DNA PHANTOM EFFECT: Direct Measurement of A New Field in the Vacuum Substructue By Dr. Vladimir Poponin

Also, I found this link:
compiled by Robert Neil Boyd

On this link I found:

Excerpt From:
The Isaish Effect - Decoding the Lost Science of Prayer and Prophecy
By Gregg Braden
Chapter 8 - The Science of Man - Secrets of Prayer and Healing
Pages: 209-212

Moving Mountains: The DNA Phantom Effect

In the early 1990s, Moscow's Russian Academy of Sciences reported a startling relationship between DNA and the qualities of light, measured as photons.17 In a report detailing these early studies, Dr. Vladimir Poponin described a series of experiments suggesting that human DNA directly affects the physical world through a new and previously unknown field connecting the two. Recognized as a leading expert in the field of quantum biology, Dr. Poponin was on loan to an American research institution when this series of experiments was carried out.

The experiments began as the patterns of light in a vacuum were measured in a controlled environment. After all of the air was removed from a specially designed chamber, the patterns and spacing of the light particles followed a random distribution, as expected. These patterns were double-checked and double-recorded, to be used as a reference for the next portion of the experiment.

The first surprise came as physical samples of DNA were placed inside the chamber. In the presence of genetic material, the spacing and patterns of the light particles shifted. Rather than the scattered pattern that the researchers had seen before, the particles of light began to fall into a new pattern resembling the crests and troughs of a smooth wave.
The DNA was clearly influencing the photons, as if shaping them into the regularity of a wave pattern through an invisible force.

The next surprise came to the researchers as they removed the DNA from the chamber. Fully believing that the particles of light would return to their original state of random distribution, something very unexpected occurred. The patterns were very different from those seen before the DNA was introduced. In his own words, Poponin described the light as behaving "surprisingly and counter- intuitively." After rechecking the instruments and rerunning the experiments, the researchers were faced with finding an explanation for what they had witnessed. In the absence of the DNA, what was affecting the particles of light? Did the DNA leave something behind, a residual force of some kind, that lingered long after the biological material had disappeared?

Poponin writes that he and the researchers were 'forced to accept the working hypothesis that some new field structure is being excited. . . ." To emphasize that the effect was related to the physical DNA molecule, the new phenomenon was named the "DNA phantom effect." Poponin's "new field structure" sounds surprisingly similar to the "matrix" of Max Planck's force and the effects suggested in ancient traditions.

This series of experiments is important because it clearly demonstrates, perhaps for the first time under laboratory conditions, a relationship that offers even greater credibility to the effect of prayer in our physical world. In this instance the DNA was more or less a passive collection of molecules unattached to the brain of a conscious living being. Even in the absence of direct 'feeling pulsing through its double-helix antenna, there was a force and a measurable effect in its immediate world.

Researchers suggest that the average-sized person, of average height and weight, has many trillions of cells in his or her body. If each cell, each antenna of feeling and emotion within an individual, carries the same properties affecting the world around them, how much is the effect amplified? Now, rather than random feelings coursing through the cells of that one person, what happens if the feeling is a result of a specific form of thought and emotion, regulated as prayer? Multiply the effects of this one individual, empowered through a specific mode of prayer, by even a fraction of the 6 billion or so people in our world today, and we begin to get a sense of the power inherent in our collective will. It is the power to end all suffering and avert the pain that has been the hallmark of the twentieth century. The key is that we must work together to achieve such a goal. This may prove to be the greatest challenge of the third millennium.

In our own language we have the vocabulary to describe our forgotten relationship to the forces of our world, the intelligence of the cosmos, and one another. Using some of the most sensitive devices of our time to measure fields of energy that we did not even acknowledge fifty years ago, our own science has now validated the relationship of which the ancients reminded us over two thousand years ago. We have direct access to the forces of our world, and we have come full circle. This is the language to move mountains. It is the same language that allows us to choose life over cancerous tumors, and create peace in situations where we may believe that peace does not exist. When we read of healing miracles in times past, no longer are we left wishing that the same miracles could occur today. The miraculous outcomes are already here; we are simply asked to choose them.

Today I continue to pray. For me, each moment of life has become a prayer. I still give thanks for the good things and now feel empowered to choose new conditions in place of those that have caused suffering in the past. My training in the hard sciences has shown me that there are few mysteries and little we cannot validate, if we dare to accept the "laws" that nature shows us in the miracle of each day.

Prayer has demonstrated to me that certain things are, regardless of our ability to prove them in the moment. For example, I know that some of the most sacred memories of our heritage have been scattered throughout the monasteries, churches, tombs, and temples of those who have come before us. I also know that the same memories live on in the customs and traditions of peoples that we may previously have judged as primitive. I know that we are capable of beautiful dreams, great possibilities, and unspoken depths of love. Perhaps most important, I know that a possibility already exists in which we have ended the suffering of all creatures by honoring the sacredness of all life. That possibility is already here and with us now. I know these things to be true, because I have seen them. The moment we allow for such possibilities on a mass scale becomes the first moment of new hope. It is that moment that we will always remember. It is the moment when we override the last day of prophecy.

17. Poponin, "The DNA Phantom Effect."

[Edited 3 times, lastly by Ellyn on 11-14-2001]

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