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dave
New Member
central Arkansas
1 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 07-31-2000 01:35 PM
  
While operating a freight train through northeastern Arkansas at the beginning of this new year I began to see the entire right-of-way next to the tracks completely covered by cobwebs. The bushes and trees were completely covered. Since I was approaching the town I was born in, it really brought it home that these people being sprayed were completely oblivious to what was happening to them. There were plenty of chemtrials still overhead and even a plane laying them down could be seen in the distance. I asked the other crew member on board with me what he made of the cobwebs and to my surprise he said the were ordinary spiderwebs. It was February and it would take a million or more to cover miles of track we were seeing them on. There was no convincing him of where they came from. Not even with him even looking at the chemtrails overhead. This is the problem with exposing this, people refuse to believe they would be poisoning us. Several days later I was heading in the opposite direction in the same area and had to stop my train to meet another train. While stopped I went to a store to get a coke and ask some questions. I didn't even have to ask my main question, the clerk was was ill that was running the store. I ask if anyone else in town was sick and he said the whole town. His girlfriend and several others were even in the hospital. I told him what had made them all sick and as I left he was asking,"Hey, your just kidding right?" I wish I could have told him yes. My vote gets the theory that they are working on population control in the worst most way. I got to this sight by checking out a story on sightings.com. One of the best and most informative sights on the net. Check out the article there on Mycoplasma Experiments Conducted at Texas Dept of Corrections and I'm certain you will start to follow my theory as well. The poor people living that nightmare can tell it better than I. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt to me that our government is not at all interested in our well being.I'm not even sure if the person writing that piece even knows about chemtrails. This is my first time here, and I'm glad to see I'm not alone. Thank you for your time. Dave
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-01-2000 11:45 AM
Dave,This is an amazing story.
Did the webs appear to be many long individual strands or did it seem more like masses of clumped cobwebs?
Did you actually see any webs in the process of floating down?
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hookemav8tor
New Member
3 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 08-02-2000 03:28 PM
 Question: Are you folks really as ignorant as you're coming across? For the love of God, your government is not trying to kill you. Ever stop to think that maybe those spiders were the result of some other natural phenomena? And were they only by the tracks or all over the town? As a pilot and an amateur weather buff, I can tell you that if a jet is flying through air at altitude with a low humidity, the moist air from the jet engine might produce a slight, short-lived contrail. These short-lived contrails are a sign that the weather will be fair. A thick, long-lasting contrail indicates humid air high in the atmosphere, and can be an early sign of a storm.
If you're not even sure what contrails are, but only that they're there to "make you sick", here's an explanation from Dr. Steve Ackerman at the University of Wisconsin: http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/wxwise/contrail.html Airliners fly via dedicated airways at altitude, called Victor Airways. These are imaginary lines along VOR radials, a VOR being a type of radio beacon that pilots used to navigate b/t airports. That is why you see them occasionally criss-crossed in a "grid" pattern or straight with occasional turns. Please, do your homework before jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon. You're giving the term "Information Superhighway" a bad name. hookemav8tor
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-02-2000 04:57 PM
hookemav8tor,Not very tactful as your opening gambit, however I realize you are frustrated with this. I can understand your viewpoint, because I was there a few months ago, but please be civil, no one has been rude to you. If you are here to mock everything, then go somewhere else, but if you would like to share some of your knowledge then it will behoove you to not alienate your audience. Not everyone believes that the purpose is a population cull, although the reality of the spraying can be quite disconcerting. As I'm sure you are aware, there are several popular theories as to the purpose of the operation. http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/chemfaq.shtml#theories Please check back hookemav8tor, as I may have some questions for you later in a new thread...
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Eurybia
Senior Member
Houston, TX
17 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-02-2000 05:40 PM
hookmav8tor,I don't know what the government or anyone else is doing and neither do you or most anyone else for that matter. As for these spiderwebs, yes , there are many questions. In my mind, until it is investigated it doesn't mean much... Except that it is important to hear everyones' stories. In the future it may be quite important or not at all.What you say makes sense to a certian extent and I want to buy it...but I can't totally and here's why.
I've lived in south Texas for practically 30 years now and I've been looking at the sky for almost as long. What I see now is very unlike contails I've seen most of my life.something is different.Your explanation doesn't resolve this, although the information is great.I'm totally open to whatever these trails might be.I know that it may not be anything sinister at all,but then agian, who knows? None of us know. that is what this website is about...Searching for answers...Any conspiracy sight is certian to have at least two kinds of people, paranoid schizophrenics and closed minded conservatives.It's gonna take all of us to figure this out.
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hookemav8tor
New Member
3 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 08-03-2000 03:23 PM
Ok, let's start with what you know, which I assume is the basis of your theories. You know for fact that jets at altitude tend to create contrails, which normally disappear shortly after they are created, right? Now, what bothers you are the ones that linger, due to atmospheric conditions. Remember, contrails are the result of frozen water vapour attached to exhaust particles. If the winds are right, the temp low enough, and the humidity high enough, those contrails will spread and spread until they look like a high-level cirrus cloud. That's why when looked at through special lenses, you can see a refractory rainbow, due to the oils within the exhaust. Now, I'm curious as to why you automatically associate these lingering contrails with illness. What led you to that assumption? Seeing some sick folks, looking up and seeing contrails, and then auto-magically associating the two?
Eurybia, you say you've lived in south Texas for 30 years. Great. There are SO many factors involved as to why you think you've seen an increase in lingering contrails over the years. A change in global weather patterns. Larger aircraft. More aircraft (and hence busier airways). FWIW, most aircraft prefer to fly in the top of the troposphere, in the tropopause, because that's where the wind resistance is least. Temps are very low at that point and the dewpoint relatively high, resulting in a high relative humidity.
Now, I've been in Texas for 10 years. I have also lived in several countries overseas while growing up, and was always interested in air travel. So I took notice of the jets way up there. Central America, South America, East Africa. Contrails everywhere. Short lasting and long lasting. Now, are you telling me that the Kenyan government, no, wait, or is the U.N.!?, is spreading chemicals and disease over the sparsely populated areas of western Kenya? your pal, hook
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Eurybia
Senior Member
Houston, TX
17 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-04-2000 10:21 AM
Hey Hook,
Behind every Truth lies the shadow of deciet and
Above All Lies flys the banner of truth....I believe this is true of all spoken and written word. It is inherently flawed by human perception, human mind. The language of the heart and of the gut cannot lie...it just is. Facts, coming from a fearful human mind are often decietful regardless of how true they are.I'm not attacking you this is just what I believe. You say, " If the winds are right, the temp low enough, and the humidity high enough, those contrails will spread and spread until they look like a high-level cirrus cloud. That's why when looked at through special lenses, you can see a refractory rainbow, due to the oils within the exhaust." People are seeing this phenomena,refractory rainbows, without special lenses.I've seen it.
you say, "There are SO many factors involved as to why you think you've seen an increase in lingering contrails over the years. A change in global weather patterns. Larger aircraft. More aircraft (and hence busier airways)." A change in global weather patterns is an interesting ( and rather frightening) idea. I rather doubt the larger aircraft idea though. Certianly, the airways are busier than ever but that does little to explain this NEW phenomena. If that's all it is then we would simply be seeing more of the normal contrails we've all been seeing for years. What I'm trying to express is that what I see is different, it is [i/]new[/i]it is occasionally right over my head and house in Houston Texas, not way up in the atmosphere where contrails usually live. I lived in Dallas for three years, big city, lots of air traffic, never saw anything like this. I've lived in Houston for 8 years, huge city, incredible amount of air traffic, never saw these things until this year. My sister, who is quick to smash anything unproven or conspiratorial, calls me up one Saturday six months ago (she also lives in houston). ' Have you seen the pollution they're spewing all over the sky ? It's disgusting ? What is going on ? I've got to get out of this town, I'm not going to raise my babies in this polluted town!' She had never heard of chemtrails. A person need not have heard about chemtrails to see for thier very own eyes that something[i/] is up ! I don't know if this is making people sick or not. I do know that [i]pollution makes people sick. I am not afraid that the government is trying to kill us. But I don't trust them and I know that there are plenty of killers in this world, in and outside of the goverment, and I don't put anything past governments, including murder. Have we learned nothing from history?
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hookemav8tor
New Member
3 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 08-04-2000 10:37 AM
 (cue Twilight zone music...)
Whoa. Just found the "channeling" link. Zeta people??? I'm outta here.
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Falcon
The voice of sanity and reality!
87 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 08-05-2000 09:36 AM
Hook, well spotted!Do you guys write for the X-Files? Do you believe that the majority of pilots is the US and elsewhere ar "in" on this or what?
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 08-05-2000 10:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Falcon:
Do you believe that the majority of pilots is the US and elsewhere ar "in" on this or what?
Certainly not.
One can be aware of a conspiracy without being paranoid. As to as what pilots are actually aware of this, it is probably a very small subset of military pilots.  That ZetaTalk stuff is pretty wild isn't it...
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SKYWATCHER
Senior Member
SOUTHEASTERN,MA,UKA
37 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 10-10-2000 11:54 PM
COLLOIDAL SILVER OBTAINED AT HEALH FOOD STORES LIKE GNC COULD VERY WELL BE THE ANSWER TO WHAT AILS YOU.IT IS NATURES PERFECT ANTI- BIOTIC!BY THE WAY ARE YOU AWARE THAT HOPI INNIAN ANCIENT PROPHECY STATES THAT THERE WILL COME A TIME OF GREAT DESTRUCTION WHEN "THERE WILL BE LINES IN THE SKY AND COBWEBS IN THE AIR"!
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 10-11-2000 09:25 AM
Skywatcher,Do you have a reference for that quote?
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 12-23-2000 01:45 PM
The reference Skywatcher is referring to can be found at various sites, one being http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/pan.htm which talks about the signs that the Fifth World is emerging. "This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web (Power and telephone lines)."
Perhaps the giant spider's web are the webs seen falling from the sky...I wouldn't purchase colloidal silver from a health food store because not only do they charge a lot, also the product is not necessarily fresh or 100% bio-available. If it has sediment in it you can bet it's crap. You're better off making your own cs which should be a golden color.
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