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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-07-2003 09:08 AM
   
That's why I use my cast iron frying pan at least once day--for a little dose of iron! oh yeah... 
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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member
Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-14-2003 09:04 PM
Dont brush your teeth the government using it to control our minds why do think there allways telling as to brush 2 times a day.
if you read what iv'e read and seen what iv'e seen you'd never brush your teeth again!.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-15-2003 09:00 AM
Oh please--give me a break--brush your teeth by all means, just use non-flouridated toothpaste, or baking soda...
Sheesh!
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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member
Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-15-2003 07:21 PM
hehehe
of corse i brush my teeth i was just joking
;0)
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Mech
New Member
posts,
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posted 05-17-2003 05:17 PM
I was over my brother-in-laws house last week and saw that he had a tube of Colgate by his sink. I read the ingredients on the back...sure as hell...."aluminum oxide" is one of the main ingredients.Mmmmm....yummy.
I warned him about it but he kind of looked at me like I was Atilla the Hun or something. Quite possibly ruined his day.
Hopefully his kids haven't swallowed too much of it.
Oh Well...let him have his aluminum oxide.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Mech on 05-17-2003]
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-19-2003 01:44 AM
Do you guys realize how much stuff actually contains aluminum? I doubt you do.The whole "aluminum is bad" is a bunk arguement anyways, it's *the* most abundant metal on earth, and one of the most abundant elements. I liked turning aluminum into copper using acid, that was fun.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 05-19-2003]
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BillNye
New Member
4 posts, May 2003
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posted 05-19-2003 03:22 PM
Hmm.. when I checked on a bottle of tums and colgate toothpaste aluminum was not listed as an inactive ingredient.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-19-2003 03:42 PM
your not the real bill nye are ya ?
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-19-2003 04:12 PM
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Ingredients:
Active Ingredients: each 6.0 oz.: Sodium Monofluorophosphate (0.15 %)Inactive Ingredients: Glycerin, Sorbitol, Hydrated Silica, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Bicarbonate, Aluminum Oxide, Water, Pentasodium Triphosphate, Tetrasodium Pyrophosphate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Flavor, Sodium Hydroxide, Calcium Peroxide, Sodium Saccharin, Carrageenan, Cellulose Gum, Titanium Dioxide
Only related by toothpaste, the FDA appears to be cracking down on toothpastes made in countries outside the USA with elevated floride levels...
http://www.fda.gov/ora/fiars/ora_import_ia6301.html
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-19-2003 11:04 PM
There's nothing wrong with flouride, just so long as it's at low levels. I'm against publically flourided water, because people who brush get plenty.As I said.. aluminum is in *everything* it's an amazingly abundant, lightweight metal.
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-20-2003 07:36 PM
Do you guys realize how much stuff actually contains aluminum? I doubt you do.how about a list chem-cap ?
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-21-2003 12:58 AM
I don't have one seeker, jeez, I'm not mr. aluminum. The fact is, even I don't know how much stuff contains aluminum, just that it's a lot.I mean, I could make a short list, but that'd be an effort... I don't like making one.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 05-21-2003]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-21-2003 02:13 AM
The fact is, even I don't know how much stuff contains aluminum, just that it's a lot.
I mean, I could make a short list, but that'd be an effort... I don't like making one.well shit where in the hell do you get off making a statement like that...when you have no freakin' idea...and don't care to look... unbelieveable... took about 5 minutes... 2. Effects on Humans: Aluminum dust is an eye and respiratory tract irritant in humans. Soluble aluminum salts are irritants when inhaled as aerosols [Hathaway et al. 1991]. Although inhalation of aluminum powder of particle size 1.2 um, given over 10- or 20-minute periods several times weekly resulted in no adverse health effects among thousands of workers over several years, several other studies report X-ray evidence of pulmonary fibrosis [Hathaway et al. 1991]. Some patients on long-term hemodialysis develop speech disorders, dementia, or convulsions. This syndrome is associated with increased concentration of aluminum in serum, brain, muscle, and bone [Amdur et al. 1991; Hathaway et al. 1991]. There is some evidence that Alzheimer's disease may be linked to aluminum content in the body [Amdur et al. 1991]. Analysis of the aluminum content in the brains of persons dying from Alzheimer's have shown increased levels, although brain aluminum levels vary greatly. A second correlating factor is that neurofibrillary tangles (NFTs) have been identified in both aluminum encephalopathy and in Alzheimer's disease [Amdur et al. 1991]. [Amdur et al. 1991].
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/aluminum/recognition.html
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-21-2003 02:37 AM
I told you I didn't want to make an effort Seeker.. Yikes.The fact remains aluminum is in many many things... I'll make any god damned statement I want to  That is also speaking about occupational hazards for workers exposed to aluminum dust which may be a product/byproduct of some industry. This is a far step from aluminum as we know it- though I never suggest eating foil or soda cans 
[Edited 2 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 05-21-2003]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-21-2003 02:51 AM
I'll make any god damned statement I want toand look like a fucking idiot doing it... which is your right...you have a right to be a fucking idiot...and I have a right to point that out.... so... the reference material was dealing with all aspects of aluminum absorbtion...in particular.... There is some evidence that Alzheimer's disease may be linked to aluminum content in the body [Amdur et al. 1991]. Analysis of the aluminum content in the brains of persons dying from Alzheimer's have shown increased levels, if you were worth the trouble I would see what has transpired in the last 12 years regarding aluminum absorbtion into the body... do your parents know your using their machine ?
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-21-2003 01:41 PM
You're such an ass seeker.Again, it doesn't change that aluminum is in many products, whether it's harmful or not. I already stated I did not believe it is harmful in these products. By the way. "the reference material was dealing with all aspects of aluminum absorbtion...in particular...." No, it is, like i said, speaking of occupational hazards regarding aluminum. Read the title of the freaking website! "Occupational Safety and Health Administration" "INTRODUCTION This guideline summarizes pertinent information about aluminum for workers and employers as well as for physicians, industrial hygienists, and other occupational safety and health professionals who may need such information to conduct effective occupational safety and health programs..."
[Edited 4 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 05-21-2003]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-21-2003 02:16 PM
I already stated I did not believe it is harmful in these products. yeah and I already stated that your factually inadequate opinion is worthless... it's just not fair to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man...or *boy* as in this case...
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-21-2003 04:03 PM
 You're the only one here acting like a child.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by ChemCaptain on 05-21-2003]
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-21-2003 04:15 PM
The fact is, even I don't know how much stuff contains aluminum, just that it's a lot.
I mean, I could make a short list, but that'd be an effort... I don't like making one.kinda says it all don't it....
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-21-2003 06:45 PM
Seeker.. I said that because I didn't realize you were serious about me wanting to make a list, and was joking around that I don't like to make an effort argueing here..Way to take a joke too far.
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Lulu
ice behaving badly
right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000
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posted 05-21-2003 08:14 PM
Alzheimers is no joke--nor the alarming numbers--nor the reports linking aluminum with alzheimers --nor the concerns regarding this. If you can provide a list ChemCaptain...by all means, do!
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BillNye
New Member
4 posts, May 2003
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posted 05-22-2003 10:00 PM
Here is the list of Colgate's ingredients for Colgate tarter control plus whitening.
Active ingredients:Sodium flouride(0.15%W/V Flouride ion)
Inactive Ingredients:Water, Glycerin
and/or Sorbitol, Hydrated Silica, Pentasodium Triphosphate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Tetrasodium Pyrophosphate, PVM/MA Copolymer, Sodium hydroxide, Flavor, Cellulose Gum, Sodium Saccharin, Carrageenan, Mica, Titanium Dioxide, FD&C Blue No. 1
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theseeker
One moon circles
Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-23-2003 03:19 AM
whoopse !
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CONSPIRACY_MAN
Senior Member
Canberra Australia
190 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-23-2003 05:01 AM
Colgate Fluoride Toothpaste, Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Tartar Control.Active Ingredients: sodium monofluorophosphate: Sodium Monofluorophosphate 0.76% (0.15% W/V Fluoride Ion) Inactive Ingredients: Glycerin, Sorbitol, Hydrated Silica, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Bicarbonate, Aluminum Oxide!, Water, Pentasodium Triphosphate, Tetrasodium Pyrophosphate, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Flavor, Sodium Hydroxide, Calcium Peroxide, Sodium Saccharin, Carrageenan, Cellulose Gum, Titanium Dioxide. http://www.drugstore.com/qxp28051_333181_sespider/colgate_whitening/fluoride_toothpaste_baking_soda_and_peroxide_whitening_with_tartar_control.htm&tab=1
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ChemCaptain
Senior Member
United States
495 posts, Apr 2003
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posted 05-23-2003 06:33 AM
Jeez I laugh everytime I see your avatar thing con man.As for a list? Jeez! I'd rather concede the arguement then go hunting... Anyways.. Lots of soaps, deorderants, toothpastes- Many products of that nature have aluminum, as well as you know cans and foil . I will not go to the point that aluminum is completely safe, but I have not seen a study that was unrelated to industrial occupational hazards with aluminum- again, I can't say it enough- don't go eating aluminum foil and soda cans!
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