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Mech
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posted 11-29-2003 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SHOULD YOU GET THE FLU SHOT?

By Dr Sherri Tenpenny www.nmaseminars.com

News reports have been flooding us with articles warning that the impending flu season may be the worst in years. Even though it is difficult to separate the facts from the hype, a close evaluation of the flu vaccine will reveal that serious questions must be raised about the recommendations that are routinely touted, namely high efficacy with little risk. Anyone considering a flu shot should become informed about the substances coming through that needle, and should be determined to investigate the safety and efficacy issues that are still unresolved.

The vaccine virus

Each year, a new vaccine is developed that contains three different viruses (one influenza B and two influenza A strains). CDC officials select the new viruses based on which viruses were prevalent during the flu season in China and Australia the previous year. The CDC admits that the viruses selected for the new vaccine are chosen on the basis of an “educated guess.” [i]

What’s in a flu shot?

The influenza virus is grown in “specific pathogen-free” (SPF) eggs. Eggs are tested for a variety of agents—usually between 23 and 31—to confirm the absence of those specific pathogens. Laboratories limit the number of agents that are screened due to the shear abundance of potential viruses and/or bacteria to choose from. In addition, screening for every potential agent would be cost prohibitive.[ii] If none of the tested agents are detected, the vaccine is reported as “pathogen free.”

However, it should be understood that there is a distinct difference between “pathogen free” and “specific pathogen-free.” In its July 1996 report, the Institute of Medicine acknowledged that “although it is not possible to produce a completely uncontaminated animal, it is possible to produce an animal [or egg] certified to be free of specific pathogens.”[iii] Viruses that are harmless to their animal host, however, may be potentially harmful to humans.

During the manufacturing process, antibiotics (neomycin, polymyxin B and gentamicin) are added to eliminate stray bacteria found in the mixture. The final solution can contain the following additives in any combination: Triton X-100 (a detergent); polysorbate 80 (a potential carcinogen); gelatin; formaldehyde; and residual egg proteins. In addition, many of the influenza vaccines still contain thimerosal as a preservative. Thimerosal (mercury) is being investigated for its link to brain injury and autoimmune disease.

Does the flu shot protect?

There are no guarantees that the influenza viruses selected for the vaccine will be the identical strains circulating during a given flu season. In fact, it has recently been announced that this year's flu vaccine does not include the strain that is being reported by doctors in the community called the “A Fujian” strain. Outbreaks have been reported in Texas, Colorado and elsewhere[iv] that involve strains that do not match the current flu vaccine. CDC tests have confirmed that more than 80 per cent of the 55 strains of influenza virus isolated thus far are the A Fujian strain. Even so, the CDC still maintains that the current vaccine could provide cross-protection against the new variant, but the fact is, no one knows for sure.

Moreover, the majority of illnesses characterized by fever, fatigue, cough and aching muscles are not caused by the influenza virus. Non-influenza viruses (e.g., rhinoviruses respiratory syncytial virus [RSV], adenoviruses, and parainfluenza viruses) can cause symptoms referred to influenza-like illnesses (ILI). Certain bacteria, such as Legionella spp., Chlamydia pneumoniae, Mycoplasma pneumoniae, and Streptococcus pneumoniae, have been documented as the causes of ILI.[v]

Notably, these microbes are not part of the flu vaccine. Unless an organism’s antigen is contained within the vaccine, there is no protection conferred by the vaccine. It is estimated that most adults will average 1-3 episodes of ILI, and most children will average 3-6 episodes. The CDC also admits that “many persons who have been vaccinated against influenza can still get the flu”[vi]

Targeting the elderly

The flu vaccine is generally recommended for persons aged 65 and older, and those with medical conditions who could experience serious complications from the flu. Medical journals report broad differences in effectiveness for the elderly, ranging from 0 to 85%.

The CDC states that 90% of deaths from influenza occur among the elderly. Considering that nearly 65% of all deaths (from any cause) occur in this age group, it is nearly impossible to prove that flu shots significantly increase life expectancy in this group. The truth is that most people—young and old—will weather a bout of the flu without hospitalization or complications.

A serious concern: Alzheimer’s Disesase

Hugh Fudenberg, MD, an immunogeneticist and biologist with nearly 850 papers published in peer review journals, has reported that if an individual had five consecutive flu shots between 1970 and 1980 (the years studied), his/her chances of getting Alzheimer's Disease is ten times higher than if they had zero, one, or two shots.[vii]

Dr. Boyd Haley, Professor and Chair of the Department of Chemistry at the University of Kentucky, Lexington has done extensive research in the area of mercury toxicity and the brain. Haley’s research has established a likely connection between mercury toxicity and Alzheimer’s disease. [viii] In a paper published in collaboration with researchers at University of Calgary, Haley stated that “seven of the characteristic markers that we look for to distinguish Alzheimer's disease can be produced in normal brain tissues, or cultures of neurons, by the addition of extremely low levels of mercury.”[ix]

Does this prove that the mercury contained in the influenza shot can be directly linked to Alzheimer’s? No, absolutely not. But further research in this area is critically needed because the absence of proof is not the “proof of absence.”[x]

Flu vaccine now for children

The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) adopted a resolution effective March 1, 2003 that expanded the use of the influenza vaccine to include children aged 6-23 months. The recommendations also included vaccinating those aged 2 to 18 years who live in households containing children younger than 2 years of age.[xi]

The flu vaccine most commonly given to children is Fluzone>, a trivalent vaccine grown in chicken eggs. Harvested with formaldehyde and containing the recommended ratio of 15 ug of each of the three prototype viral strains, each dose of Fluzone> also contains 25 ug of mercury.[xii] The new CDC recommendations include giving the influenza vaccine to children beginning at six months of age and then annually, for the rest of their lives. Children less than age 9 receiving their first flu shot, two doses of vaccine are recommended, with a minimum interval of one month between the two doses. However, the CDC does not provide a direct reference to substantiate this recommendation.[xiii]

On June 17, 2003, the FDA approved an intranasal influenza vaccine for use in healthy persons aged 5–49 years. Flumist> is a live-virus vaccine that can cause a litany of problems. (for further information on FluMist)

Alternatives?

If you choose not to receive the flu shot, have a discussion with your doctor regarding other options. However, some simple and possibly quite effective things you can do for yourself to prevent the flu include: 1) avoid white sugar;[xiv] 2) exercise regularly; 3) get adequate sleep; 4) eat a healthy diet, omitting trans-fats; 5) drink plenty of purified water daily and 6) wash your hands. A common way people contract viral illnesses is by rubbing their nose or their eyes after their hands have been contaminated with a virus. The CDC states, “the most important thing you can do to keep from getting sick is to wash your hands.”[xv]

We are so used to taking medications—for prevention and treatment—that it is difficult to comprehend that these modest recommendations are really the most powerful ways to minimize the likelihood of getting the flu.

Making the decision

You may decide to consult a physician who is schooled in alternative medicine to assess a variety of options for you and your family. What is most important, in the end, is to become as informed as possible regarding your options for keeping healthy and avoiding the flu.

REFERENCES

[i] Sabin, Russel and Reynolds. Breakdowns Mar Flu Shot Program Production, distribution delays raise fears of nation vulnerable to epidemic. San Francisco Chronicle. Feb. 25, 2001

[ii] Charles River Laboratories, A Laboratory Animal Health Monitoring Program: Rationale and Development,' (Winter 1990); Source: Internet address

[iii] Institute of Medicine Press Release: Federal Guidelines Needed to Ensure Safety in Animal-to-Human Organ Transplants. July 17, 1996.

[iv]CBS: The Associated Press. CDC Says Flu Season Is Going Strong in Parts of U.S., Vaccine Doesn't Match Strain Doctors See.

[v] MMWR. November 9, 2001 / 50(44);984-6

[vi] MMWR Nov. 9, 2001/50(44); 984-6

[vii] Hugh Fudenberg, MD, is Founder and Director of Research, Neurolmmuno Therapeutic Research Foundation. Information from Dr. Hugh Fudenberg came from transcribed notes of Dr. Fudenberg's speech at the NVIC International Vaccine Conference, Arlington, VA September, 1997. Quoted with permission.

[viii] The Relationship of Toxic Effects of Mercury to Exacerbation of the Medical Condition Classified as Alzheimer’s Disease by Boyd E. Haley, PhD.

[ix] NeuroReport, 12(4):733-737, 2001

[x] http://www.testfoundation.org/

[xi] MMWR. 2002;51[RR-3]:1-31

[xii] Package insert. Influenza Virus VaccineFluzone® 2003 – 2004 Formula

[xiii] MMWR. 2002: 51 [RR-3], pg. 19

[xiv] All forms of refined sugar depress white blood cells' ability to destroy bacteria. See Sanchez A, et al. Role of sugars in human neutrophilic phagocytosis. Am J Clin Nutr 1973;26:1180.

[xv]CDC—Handwashing: An ounce of prevention keeps the germs away.

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posted 11-29-2003 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jetblack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I for one never get flu shots. Beef up your immune system with vitamins and try to eat healthy and I have found that silver helps out as well. With the many different viruses going around and the ever changing recipe of antibiotics there are a number of hidden risks.

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posted 11-29-2003 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes...I'll pass on the Squaline, Mercury and Mycoplasmas.

They wont do your body any good...in fact...over the long term it might kill you.

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posted 12-01-2003 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shatoga     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There have always been a percentage of people who get the flu from the inoculation. http://64.41.99.118/vran/news_art/press/flu03_press.htm http://home.sprynet.com/%7Egyrene/
>Do you want any of the following vaccine constituents in YOUR bloodstream?
Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)
Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent
Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote antibody response)
Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease

Far more than is stated here is posted in:
Other Trails
topic:
11 Microbiologists dead in five months
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000623.html

Has the 1918 flu pandemic been reborn?
(the worst plague in the history of the world)

It may have been released.
(accidentally I hope)

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posted 12-06-2003 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not taking them....no F....g way.

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This flu bout is pretty horrible, it starts in your throat, moves to your nose, massive stomach cramps in your stomach and liquid coming out from everywhere, nose eyes, mouth, butt. But that is not the worst of it. Once the sinus kicks in, it feels as if your whole face has been used as a punch bag, even your teeth feel as if they have been pulled and shaken out of thier roots, then the fatigue and dizziness starts...

How do I know? I have had it since a very unusual pewse/pink sky was laid over the north of the Uk last monday. I thought they had cocked the mix up it was that bad. This sky illuminated verything with the same colour. Now we have a massive outbreak everyone is dropping like flies with it.

Interestingly, Pfsier three weeks ago was forecasting the biggest out break ever in the North West of the UK. They got pulled up by the BBC for making this claim, when obviously they were three weeks early. The BBC journalist said the were scare mongering to get their medicines sold.

I don't take any pharma drugs, not since I was about ten years old, but the pain of this one, nearly made me reach for the pain killers. I won't and noway am I going near any flu shots or vaccines.

Got to go now, head is all dizzy :-(

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like i posted on another thread for ten and a half years i was forced to get flu shots while in the service,and every year i got sick. but for the ten years i've been out i have never received a flu shot and i've never been sick. so it's my belief that flu shots are nothing but forced experimentation thru fear, and the only people who benefit are the pharmacutical companies, who keep us in fear..

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posted 12-10-2003 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I REFUSE to get the flu shot. Many people where I work (extended health care facility) got the flu shot (some actually thought they HAD to get it...they didn't notice the paper on the bulliten board which stated we have the right to opt out), and shorty after receiving it came down with the flu, described by one who got the shot for the first time as "the worst flu I've had in my life".

I DID NOT catch the terrible strain that peaked here several weeks ago, and will gladly stay home for the required 2 week period if an outbreak should occur.

quote:
This year's flu shots contain two type A strains and one B strain, but what is causing most of the illness is A/Fujian, which is close to one of the vaccine strains but not quite the same. This mismatch raises the possibility of more vaccine failures than in previous years. It's like donning a bulletproof vest that has holes in it.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=676&ncid=716&e=22&u=/usatoday/20031210/ts_usatoday/12063674

AFAIC the FluMist is not a good alternative

quote:
FluMist costs doctors $46 a dose, compared to $8 to $12 for the injected vaccine. The mist contains live, weakened virus, and new studies suggest it might offer immunity against the Fujian flu variation, company officials say.

The spray, which is licensed only for healthy people ages 5 to 49, "is an excellent vaccine," Fukuda says, and "is definitely an option for any parent to consider."


as this live virus can be passed on to others quite easily for a period of 3 weeks!

quote:
Household contacts of people with immune system problems should also not receive the nasal form of influenza virus vaccine unless they can avoid close contact (e.g., within the same household) for at least 21 days to prevent possible transmission of the virus.
http://www.drugs.com/flumist.html

What about the general public who comes in close contact with a person who received FluMist? What is protecting them/us??? God, this makes me mad!

>>Beef up your immune system<< Exactly jetblack...keep your immunity up naturally, and don't mess with a good thing by compromising your immunity with all the garbage in these shots!

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Yep! I took the flu shot this year.The company that I work for recomends that we do so.In fact they always make the shots avalable to us in Sept. that is two months before they are avalable at the family doctors around here.In years past the shots have kept me healthy and happy all through flu season. Well not this year two weeks ago I came down with the sore throat that was on a Saturday by Sunday I was on my way to the local Quick care facility. They said That I had a Sinus infection and Bronchitis The Doctor prescribed Bactracin 500 two pills once daily for 14 days. He also prescribed Zyrtec D and some nasty cough stuff.This was the nastiest little bug that I have ever encountered they are now calling it the flu.the schools are full of it and the Hospitals are restricting visitors. By the way I am down to my last two days of pills and are feeling better but still not 100%.I hope most of you are spared this bug because I believe that if you have other problems it will kill...roman...

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>Study: Vaccine didn't protect against flu
Shots

had 'no or low effectiveness' against virus<

>...the study shows that people who were vaccinated against influenza came down with colds, flu and similar viruses at the same rate as people who were not vaccinated.<

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3968997&p1=0
Reuters:

>WASHINGTON - The influenza vaccine that many Americans clamored for this year was not very good at protecting people against influenza, colds and similar viruses, a preliminary report published Thursday shows.

The study is the first attempt to show whether the vaccine that many sought after a flu scare this autumn and winter actually worked.<

>However, the study shows that people who were vaccinated against influenza came down with colds, flu and similar viruses at the same rate as people who were not vaccinated.<

& so I now go to read about what might really be in that shot/ since protection against flu is obviously not one of the ingredients.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by shatoga on 01-21-2004]

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quote:
Originally posted by shatoga:

& so I now go to read about what might really be in that shot/ since protection against flu is obviously not one of the ingredients.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by shatoga on 01-21-2004]

Just like we were saying all along - flu shots are a scam. Thanks for the report.

As far as ingredients go - try looking into nanotechnology as one. If you find any evidence for THAT I'd be real surprised.

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http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000304.html
>"The Population Control Agenda ...<
>This years Flu vaccine also has mercury,<

>CDC Exposed
Seeding Cancer in Vaccines <


>In addition to Autism, many children and now young adults are dying, as a result of Polio vaccines which contains the 40th simian virus named simian virus 40 (SV40). This virus is showing up in these specific tumors and are in many organs, but especially the brain. <


No vaccinations for my family as long as I still live and breathe.

Several "old" friends who got the vaccination this past fall/winter are now seriously ill.

My recommendation to try colloodial silver has restored two, so far, to apparent health.

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quote:
Originally posted by JerseyBluEyz:
Just like we were saying all along - flu shots are a scam. Thanks for the report.

As far as ingredients go - try looking into nanotechnology as one. If you find any evidence for THAT I'd be real surprised.


Paranoid response:

-applicable, -in the field- -workable-
Nanotechnology is not yet proven.

But a "tens" on high power should short circuit those miniscule
(small enough to be injected with a needle)
robots.

anecdotal:

Trying a "tens unit" at high pulse for hours left me better than in several months.

symptoms went away.

the electronic pulse should short circuit any supposed nanotech injected...whatever

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You think my response was paranoid? It wasn't. I'm stating something that was told to me MANY YEARS ago by someone that knows. Nanotechnology has been, and is being used in conjunction with mind control techniques. It is in chemtrails, vaccines, our food and water supply, and most definitely WAS in the flu shots. Can I prove it - what do you think? It is not your typical every day available information.

If you or anyone else does not believe it - that's fine. But please don't call me paranoid - that is one word I do not liken to my personality. Besides, living in fear and paranoia serves no purpose.

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1. You aren't paranoid if they really are out to get you.
2. visit this website and read some unfortunate truth: http://www.proparanoid.com/enter.htm

>1) paranoid ~ a medical term applied to someone who mistakenly fears being persecuted by others... followed, spied upon, stalked, threatened, etc.
2) opposite of paranoid ~ sorry, there is no medical term in the English language for someone properly reacting to ACTUAL persecution. Some say 'cautious' is the word, but ONLY the victim seems to use that word, usually in self defense against suggestions of being paranoid. Why? Our civilization, certainly as exemplified by professionals within law enforcement, the courts, and medical institutions, simply does not want to believe in conspiracy or bogeymen. If you ask for help, you are simply dismissed as being paranoid, even if you have proof to the contrary -- they don't want to hear it, and the victim is victimized a second time in a whole new way.

On the other hand... metanoia is an illness defined as 'the belief that everyone is good/benign and the world/universe only wants to help you' regardless of the reality. This is the TRUE opposite of paranoia but represents an inverse illness. Excuse me for saying it, but this would seem to be the state of mind of all law enforcement, media, and medical professionals: thus by their behavior, it is THEY who are mentally ill!
<

Paranoid?
Or--
Well informed!

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Wow! Now that was an interesting site! I especially got a kick out of this guy:

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Shatoga: You mentioned you were going to research what was in the flu vaccines. I’m not sure what you found, but I came across some interesting information. Dr. Joseph Mercola seems to be right on with his information and I like his writing style – very frank. I recently started reading at his website. He’s authored a couple of books but the one I’d like to read is Total Health. He says that “Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Causing 250,000 Deaths Every Year”. What an interesting man!

In this article, there is a radical quote from Dr. Mercola re: the flu vaccine.
http://www.mercola.com/2004/jan/28/flu_prevention.htm
"Now it’s been officially documented that the flu vaccine does not work. But this is just one of the problems with this vaccine, as they are also loaded with toxic chemicals including mercury and aluminum, and many people come down with the flu shortly after receiving the shot. This is because it actually weakens the immune system, making the person more predisposed to the illness."

In this article, Dr. Mercola states the following ingredients are in the flu vaccine. I don't think I want any of this injected into my body knowingly!
http://www.mercola.com/2000/nov/26/flu_shots.htm
- Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
- Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)
- Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent
- Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote antibody response)
- Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury and autoimmune disease
- Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction in some people.

In this article, Dr. Mercola lists six precautionary measures you can take to avoid catching the flu. Go to the article for further clarification on each item:
http://www.mercola.com/2003/oct/29/flu_shot.htm
1. Avoid sugar (Shatoga: Do you remember the Illuminati History Timeline thread from a few months back - http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/001410.html - when I made this statement “Apparently, in 1665 and 1700 people who consumed sugar did not fare through sicknesses as well as those that didn’t consume it.” You posted a link to that thread at another site and I ended up responding to muriel_volestrangler’s inaccurate sugar comment? Anyway, if you still post there, she might be interested in the sugar information in the article – ha, ha!)
2. Get enough rest
3. Eat garlic regularly
4. Don’t let stress become overwhelming
5. Exercise
6. Wash your hands

In the last article posted, he also discusses the FluMist saying:

"And the side effects of FluMist, cough, runny nose/nasal congestion, irritability, headaches, chills, muscle aches and fever, sound just like the symptoms of the flu. If you decide to get the nasal flu vaccine, you will get not only a live flu virus in each dose but also table sugar and MSG, which are fraught with their own problems."

"Plus, research has shown an increased risk of Bell palsy following intranasal flu vaccination, according to the Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS). The makers of the nasal flu vaccine in the study decided not to market it the following season due to the risk. According to GACVS, the greater risk of Bell palsy following immunization with this vaccine may have been due to specific vaccine components, or simply to use of the intranasal administration route. It is therefore possible that such complications of vaccine administration may also apply to other nasal vaccines."

"The flu vaccine, whether in the shot or nasal form, is worthless at best and should be avoided."

Last but not least, in this article he talks about using Hydrogen Peroxide (a few drops in each ear) during the beginning stages of catching the cold or flu. Now this was a new concept for me!
http://www.mercola.com/2002/mar/13/hydrogen_peroxide.htm


[Edited 1 times, lastly by JerseyBluEyz on 02-01-2004]

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