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30 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-12-2000 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phil   Visit Phil's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just don't get it! Why someone who does not care to search for the truth, spends so much effort and time defaceing those who are in search for the truth to be told. I have no other motive to search for the truth than the truth itself. I will never make any money investigating chemtrails, nor do I wish to. I have on the other hand spent much of my hard earned money in the pursuit of the truth. When I was trying to get some answers out of Washington, a congressinal aide asked me, " if I find out that all of this chemtrail stuff was just normal forming ice cystals, what would I do?" I told him without a second thought, That I would post that information as soon as it could be varified, And that I pray daily that this issue would be found not to be what it appears to be. The response I have received from the DoD, does not make any sence, the research they site is from more than twenty years ago, when contrails where just that, normal forming ice crystals. Saidly this is not the case today, or for the last couple of years. Let me stress that I get no satisfaction from documenting this ongoing program. It is just the opposite, every time I see the chem planes doing their work, It really hurts me to think that something is so wrong with our atmosphere that our government has decided that this is the way to deal with the problem, keeping us, the american public out of the decession making process. To prove or disprove this issue is very simple. all we need to do is to go to altitude, get in the middle of one of these man made cloud banks and take a sample! I have been trying for almost a year now to do exactly that. it is not as easy as you might think it to be. But it will be done,and with so much back-up verification,( like a live web cast of the sampling) that no attempt to keep us from the truth will be allowed.
Last week I talked to a FAA offical in Washington, about getting access to a radar facility( while in contact with ground observers) to help identify these aircraft, my request was denied. If this is normal activity why is the truth, what ever it may be, so guarded?

And as for the debunkers. I do not like baseball. I do not spend all of my time writting off the wall coments about baseball, on baseball websites.

why are some people who have made themselves perfectly clear, that they think I, and others are NUTS, bother to spend anytime to pointing that out. I say to you debunkers like falcon, and others " Fine I got your message,you think I'm nuts. thats your opinion. go play on some website where your closed mind will be more appreciated, like the DoD's home page. If you think you are open minded, and you have a pilots license, HELP ME GET A SAMPLE!!!! and we can put this issue behind us all

Best Wishes Phil

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4 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-16-2000 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SuzieB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hear, hear! Let's just just get a reasonable set of facts and interpretations to settle it one way or the other!

Sure, I'll believe accurate facts and interpretations. Just don't feed me an explanation that doesn't fit the facts!

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Rebecca Jean
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Colorado Springs, CO USA
2 posts, Sep 2000

posted 09-28-2000 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rebecca Jean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't need a sample tested to prove to me they're chemtrails. I've seen enough X's and oil slicks in the sky to convice me something is being sprayed up there. They would find a way to debunk the test anyway. And since when do contrails.....drip? And linger for an hour or longer. If I were a pilot, I'd help you get a sample. But we better have gas masks up there. How long can you hold your breath? Bye for now. I was outside today, better go take another shower.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Rebecca Jean on 09-28-2000]

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The voice of sanity and reality!

87 posts, Aug 2000

posted 10-02-2000 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Falcon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why am I here?

I find it a very ammusing that you people actual believe this nonsense. It amazes me how you are able to almost disregard the rational explanations for the things that you see. As a pilot I am actually fairly disturbed that this whole Chemtrail theory exists.

As for helping collect a sample, sure no problem, next time I'm at 30000 feet I'll just open the window and catch some in a paper cup!

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No, Calif. USA
109 posts, Sep 2000

posted 10-15-2000 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goldrush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phil, you are right. It may be a little costly, but less than a grand, or possibly less than $500, one could independently get a sample at contrail altitude. There are many privately owned WWII planes, jets, and commercial photography businesses that are worth looking up to do what you want to do. Hope you are following the blueskies thread. Use the internet or the yellowpages or get to know some people who fly at some of your local airports. The subject is a curiosity in itself, whether or not one is a follower of Mr. Thomas and his original ideas. Take care, and good luck...

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