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KnewEyes
watcher


under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2001 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a poll here, as to what your first impression was, when you discovered CT's, and what your impressions of them are now,, in the present.
When I first became aware of CT's, I thought they were doing it, to create a screen of some sort. One to block out the uv rays of the too powerful sun rays, and then I thought maybe it is to block our view as to what is going on up there, above the created false cirrus cloud covering.You cant see past it, when they lay it on thick,,, and they always do. There have been many recent sighting of ufo's, and I wonder how many would REALLY have been seen, if we were able to actually SEE above these clouds.
Now I believe, that which I wrote above, and also something way more sinister, judging from what is supposedly being found in the lower atmosphere after spraying,,, blood cells, virus growing media, virus's ,barrium salts,etc.
They either want to kill us, vaccinate us, change our DNA,who knows,, the more I find out about this, the more I don't know,, but my first thought was,to hide the skies, from our eyes,,,but now we are getting deadly "bonus's" thrown in for good measure.

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prism11
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milky way, 3D+
44 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2001 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for prism11   Visit prism11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First impression: who knows?

Current impression: why care?

3D isn't 4D or 5D or 6D. Any reports of chemtrails in the above mentioned densities? Na, didn't think so.

Our bodies die and our soul disconnects. Uh, so where are we density wise upon that experience? Well it certaintly isn't 3D. Maybe it's 4D/5D ?

There's no need to fear death because death is of the body, not the soul. In fact, like the wise man said: There's nothing to fear but fear itself; because it's all in your mind: A selfish desire to live on earth or a pointless fear that you cannot live here forever, so we want to, because we can't.

If we tend to our souls then I fail to see how tending to the body remains so signicant. They can't spray my soul with chems.

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KnewEyes
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under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2001 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry if I touched a hot spot on you with that question Prism. What I was interested in finding out had to do with this 3rd dimension to be more specific.
I also am interested with first impressions.
I am not afraid of death,it's just the insinuated mass murder, I am having a problem with.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000

posted 05-04-2001 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is for inoculation against biowarfare. I'd probably prefer that they weren't.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2001 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I initially bought the sunscreen tale, but that didn't last. Then I swung to the other side of the pendulum...population cull...that didn't add up either...they couldn't be much more ineffective. Now I land near the biological control theory. Although TPTS may be doing more harm than good.

The population cull theory's holes start when you realize that the spray pilot or the fat cat pushing buttons all have to breath the same air as the rest of us.

My experience also realizes that many "working class" enlisted or even low level officers are not given the whole or even partial truth of their orders. Whatever the case we are being lied to and kept in the dark. Not something any of us here are willing to accept, at least that is the impression you all seem to give. (self included) Bio's, weahter mod, pop cull, or just bad air...what's the deal?? We have a right to know!


[Edited 2 times, lastly by FLKook on 05-04-2001]

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-04-2001 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First impression: sunscreen.
Second impression: weather modification.
Third impression: population cull.

All of these explanations have problems, so I'm keeping my mind open. Perhaps the wind that blows through it won't be laden with chemtrails.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by 3T3L1 on 05-06-2001]

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Chem11
megasprayer news


The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2001 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
d.) all off the above.

The operative word for me here is control. TPTS are hell-bent on controlling everything under the sun, including us.

I don't know about anyone else, but one of the effects I've experienced since the spraying began has been a flattening of my emotions and the loss of my ability to reason on a multi-dimensional level. I feel drugged.

This may be a side-effect, but I doubt it. The effect is too pronounced. Hell of a co-incidence that this 'vaccine' also renders the population a herd of vacuous, predictible apathetic sheep.

I think there is an element of truth in all of the theories presented. This appears to be a multi-faceted program. But I can't shake the feeling that there is still a big part of the puzzle missing.

There is something we don't know and it's existence is the reason behind all the secrecy. That's what my intuition tells me, anyway.

[Edited 3 times, lastly by Chem11 on 05-04-2001]

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afraidofsunlight
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Balto.,Md.
100 posts, Jan 2001

posted 05-04-2001 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for afraidofsunlight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Winter of 00 I knew for sure.
After getting sick with some bug I'd never had before,and more then once.
Coughed up some pretty strange stuff.
A marble sized ball of green,hard as rubber.
The classic symtom's described before.
Seen lot's of spraying during the summer of 99,but wasn't sure then.
More than one reason.



[Edited 1 times, lastly by afraidofsunlight on 05-04-2001]

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KnewEyes
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under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2001 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Chem, I also am beginning to believe this is a "more than one phase" system used on us, in the spray. I feel the air has to be saturated with spray #1, in order for spray #2 to work effectivly.I am seeing something different in the past few days, Seems most of us went thru a lull in the spraying there for a few days,,,then it started up again. The spray seems to be different,, not as noticeable as what we've been seeing lately. I see it disapating a little faster, but then I see the same thing, with the webbing out,but it seems to be a little more subtle looking than it did before. Is this a new technique, because of people like us making noise about it, and they have suddenly tried to refine their "chems" to not bring so much attention to themselves.... or is it a new phase, a new chem being added to the first layer already imbued into our lower atmosphere.
Another thought I have is,, that that we will all become little "glow worms" , with no place to hide, when they shine their "special light" down onto the earth, and see us like little light bulbs, no matter where we hide, because we are filled with this "stuff".
One more thought I have is that aliens , who are living here, are dying, and they are desparately trying to innoculate the earth with whatever they think the cure to their own ailments are. Whats with the big slaughter of the cattle and sheep and pigs because of Hoof and Mouth. I remember that was no big deal,when I was growing up,,, a virus some animals get,, that when I read about it now,,, I see the same info, that it is something the animal can recover from, and it isn't as bad as "they" are saying it is.Is there something about hoof and mouth, that some aliens are having a hard time living with? Something sure went balooooey with this hoof and mouth thing. I don't get it.Tho maybe it explains why cattle mutes are missing their lips,,, gotta check for any signs of Hoof and mouth,,, before an epidemic occurs, and the aliens catch it. My Veiled chameleon is dying right now, out of the blue.Not an easy creature to keep happy and healthy, but I have succeeded for 2 years, brought him up from a baby,2 inches long.He's not going to make it.Its sad.
The ceaseless spraying, seems to have a franticness about it. Thats what I've been thinking.

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-04-2001 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear about your chameleon, KnewEyes. I lost a pet to CRI, myself. It really sucks.
Collateral damage is what the military calls it. About the only consolation is knowing that the people responsible will one day lose something they love.. like a combat knife, a shrunken head or a love letter from Michael Aquino.. something.

My favorite quote from the greatest war movie ever made, Full Metal Jacket:

"How can you kill women and children?"

"Easy, you just dont lead 'em as much. Ain't war hell?"


[Edited 2 times, lastly by Chem11 on 05-04-2001]

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-05-2001 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kneweyes, I think the CT's are for: 1) Possible suppression of evolution, changing our DNA, specifically,our "spiritual" and "intuitive" natures as those things are hard to "control"! 2) To lower population numbers. 3) To eliminate the elderly, immune system compromised, defective "young" and "use-less eaters", as the NWO calls some of us. 4) To "create" a more user friendly environment for Alien entities. They may not be able to be sustained on our air mixture! 5) To produce a "false" sky so one cannot see beyond it. 6) To use in conjunction with EM Weaponry, against invasion from??? 7) To manipulate weather but ruin health and planet in the process. 8) To cause a problem for mankind, which the NWO will have a solution. 9) As a psychological warfare tactic plus causing physical illness. Fear tactic. 10) To cause psychological problems or to solve them, by dumbing down chemicals. Blessings, Joanne...Bleak theories, I know...as for Prism11, always like that.

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KnewEyes
watcher


under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-05-2001 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank You Chem11 for your condolenses for my chameleon. He was a good fellow.
It is so very sick the mindset of those who think nothing of "collateral damage" , I agree.
Gee it almost rained here in Conn. for the 2nd time in a few weeks,, looked just like the thunderstorm that never happened 2 weeks ago, maybe a little leak here and there, but thats about it. I guess we can expect to see a "drought" in the northeast pretty soon.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-06-2001 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi KnewEyes: It saddened me to hear of your chameleon too. CTs made my dogs real sick but didn't kill them. They were with me in my convertible taking pics in a thick soup, for a long period of time. We all got it bad for about two weeks. One dog, Ajax was so bad he had to go to the vet for IV fluids and tough anti-biotics. They said "something" has attacked his immmune system. That was the best diagnosis they could give.

If it's not too painful could you share your pets name and give us an idea of what symptons he's displaying? Has he stopped eating? Sorry, if this is tough but I sincerely would like to know what to look for.

I've raised iguanas for years (along with dogs and cats), rescued and temporarily housed everything from an Anaconda, (yellow not green), Columbian Red Tailed Boa, Indigo Snake and many others. Most people never see the different personalities in them. Being that I'm a woman I guess that makes me strange, but reptiles are beautiful, and facinating.

Never underestimate the power of prayer. I'll pray for the little guy.

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KnewEyes
watcher


under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-06-2001 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you FLKook, for your thoughtful letter.I am not squeamish around the reptiles of the animal kingdom either. Well, we just buried "Charlie" this morning sorry to say.I did one thing differently, just before he died. I was recently on a trip To Florida, and I brought home some air plants for his enclosure. I rinsed them off pretty well, before I put them in his reptarium, but 2 weeks later, he was laying down in the bottom of his cage, dying, of what looked like soft-mouth. He couldn't close his mouth, and he was dehydrated.Up until then, he had been in an open air reptarium,a huge one, with UV lighting, and a black heat lamp, which gave him his desired 90 degrees or more. He ate crickets dusted with Reptivite, for calcium , and other minerals and vitamins.He also had wax worms, or occasionally meal worms,cause he didnt like those too much.I tried to keep him going by tube feeding him, and hydrating him that way, but he was having severe problems with his mouth,he couldn't close it, and his tounge would dry and stick to the roof of his mouth.I tried to help him by moistening his mouth for him as much as I could, but had to be careful because he could barely swallow, and I didnt want to drown him , or get water in his windpipe.I don't think anything could have helped him. He sure was a cool lizard tho, if you have never seen a male veiled chameleon, look for a picture of one, you'd be shocked at what an unusual sight they are.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-06-2001 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for sharing the details. It's awful to watch and be able to do nothing but provide a little comfort. I know.

If you have a pic of Charlie I'd love to see it...printsmart@aol.com. (just put charlie in the subject so I don't delete it) I'm not very familiar with the different variety of chameleon. I have heard they are tempermental to keep. Tricky dietary and maintenance.

Wonder what air plant you brought back, there are a few different kinds. Vermillion (spelling?)are toxic to some animals I think.

Sorry again about your loss.

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-07-2001 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kneweyes, I am sorry about your beloved pets demise....I am going through a similar situation with my dog...she is ill and vet dosen't know what the deal is and I feel pretty sure it is from the chems...her "coat" looks shabby anymore and she just dosen't look right or act the same. I feel sorry for the animals...and for all of us...who knows where all this mess going on in the world is going to end? Main thing I feel like tho, is I can't give up without a fight. Blessings, J.

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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 05-07-2001 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post Chem11

'To put in my 2 cents'... Maybe we as Americans are too unaware of the effects and causes of warfare... and at the same time, many of us are too numbed by special effects violence in films and music that pass as entertainment. Russia, China/Asia and Europe have been on the recieving end of the very devastating effects of modern warfare more recently than U.S. citizens. They have lost millions of civilians as recently as the 1970's while we have remained virtually untouched (aside from current 'drug war' and a cultural war aimed at the U.S. by The Nazi Powers That Suck).

We really don't know where all of the trillions of $$ spent on weapons research and develpment goes. The Nazi Powers That Suck have made the world a very dangerous place. The corporate media powers that suck, always blame it on religous differences or strategic necessity.

My feeling about chemtrails is
A) military/shadow goverment is ostensibly trying to create immunity (innoculation) to chemical warfare attacks like anthrax, while at the same time...
B) culling the population of aged, already physically ill. (fewer SS checks to pay, who needs health care reform if you're dead?)
C) non-consensual human experimentation with
chemicals on the general population in some cases and targeted areas in others.

Depending on who is really in charge of our government (God knows it hasn't been U.S. citizens), you can reverse A, B & C in order of priority.

I believe that weather modification may also be going on but that would only be a part of the bigger picture. EMP defense is a possibility, chemical experimentation on the population at large for whatever reasons, mind control, DNA modification? Who knows what. They've done it before (see non-consensual human experimentation) and there's no reason to believe that they've ever stopped.

Efforts to stop non-consensual human experimentation in the U.S. and elsewhere headed by Senator John Glenn and others have failed in Congress.

Mainstream corporate/govt media have not even made this a priority to the general public. Subterfuge like sensational crimes, entertainment, infotainment and other TV mind control noise have priority because they increase sales while adding confusion and disunity among the very population that is being sprayed. That may be intentional or just a by-product of what has been called an "era of corporate facism". 'If it makes money, then its okay'. 'We'll worry about the consequences after we make our millions!'




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Delphi
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S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-08-2001 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
defender, Lots of your points are right on, I'm sure of it. especially culling the "useless eaters", as they call us that are sickly, old, have compromised immune systems. I just keep on getting sicker and sicker and hubby and other family members and neighbors aren't faring too well either. Something is "in" my long bones. I was wondering, it sounds silly, but when I go to the bathroom to do "business", it all has odor of like when you get a Barium enema and when you first go, how the chemicals have the odor. I read somewhere about Barium particles in the chems possibly...I have to be outside a lot...I wonder how much of that "garbage" from the trails I,ve inhaled, ingested, touched, etc. I've already told hubby, if I kick before he does, to try and get an independent autopsy, especially to check for toxins, poisons, etc, mycoplasmas, other pathogens, DNA changes, etc. and send results to chem researcher we trust...We know one such fellow over seas. Joanne

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KnewEyes
watcher


under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-09-2001 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Delphi,
I am sorry about your dog, and what you have told about yourself. I don't know what it is that can make you feel pain down in the center of your bones, but I believe, and I know YOU do too that you can kick it, and heal! Look at my post in the health forum about Grapefruit Seed Extract, and try it, it sure cant hurt. Give it to your pup too. My faith , and prayer's are with you and all the good "defender's" here on the board. Thats for sure.
FLKook, I do have pics of Charlie somewhere, and will try to dig them up and post on in his honor. I know they are crappy ones tho, lol, but I will look for them. No, I didn't get the "vermillion " type of air plant, which would have been a true find indeed , if I had! Nope , just regular green airplants. After he died, I took all the air plants out of his reptarium, and put them in a big bowl of shallow water. That night a HUGE black ant crawled onto my bed!!!!!! I caught him in a tank. lol, and let him go outside. He was HUGE!!!. I am wondering now, if maybe a fire ant or something was in one of those plants, and my poor Charlie ate one and was bit on the tongue, and thats why he was having problems closing his mouth , and with his tongue! I will never know, and now feel horrible.

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-09-2001 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Kneweyes:

Thanks for your great post on GSE at the health forum. I've been taking GrapeSeed Extract for years, but never tried Grapefruit seed extract but will. I look forward to seeing whatever pics of Charlie you have.

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KnewEyes
watcher


under those cloud-like things
665 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-18-2001 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KnewEyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The very first time I noticed something funny about the clouds was about a year and a half ago. I wasn't aware that this chemtrail "awareness" had already been in full swing. What I saw was,, big puffy white clouds,and they were "going somewhere". It was like they were all on there way to a big meeting, and "knew" what direction to all go. There was almost an intelligence in the way they all were moving, quite quickly , towards "this place they had to get to" THAT was my very first impression, when I first noticed strangeness about the clouds.I had never seen clouds moving like that before in my life.
I have come up with a theory, and this is it...the clouds they are forming up there, with their chemtrails, are made to absorb all the moisture in the air , sucking it up and holding it in,, getting big and plump and grey, filled with water.These are "smart" clouds of a sort,,, and they move to where ever they are directed, and then let loose the water they are holding. Someone mentioned, yesterday I think, that they had seen planes "throwing objects into the clouds" they had formed.This could be some kind of preset steering device, to direct the cloud to the desired vicinity, when it is "all full up of water" This way they get control of the water,,, and our lives. Just a thought.

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The Military Lies
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90 posts, Jan 2001

posted 05-19-2001 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Military Lies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Barium in these chems are definitely causing droughts all over the country. What possible good could Barium be doing for our health, or benefit? I believe we are being set up for a martial law scenario. If there is massive food shortages, along with FORCED "global warming/desertification", then civil unrest and chaos is sure to be next. A perfect reason for TPTB to swoop in and quell the situation with the martial law control that they have desired all along.

Meanwhile, we are being weakened, both physically and mentally. How convenient. And at the same time, the UN is now openly speaking about DISARMING the entire world of privately owned firearms. Coincidence? Yeah..... Right.
We are being set up for the big one folks.

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 05-19-2001 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still stand by my original idea that the barium cloud cover is to soak up the radiation their radar space weapons,Haarp, and satellites are creating up there.The barium would soak it up instead of us...Or so they think, but I think they are DEAD wrong!

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The Military Lies
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posted 05-19-2001 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Military Lies     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, you think these warm, compassionate military "people" are trying to protect us from their other weapons? How nice!

Bless their little hearts.

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