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desert flower
KICKASS GODDESS

lala land
165 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-11-2001 04:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for desert flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's Mother's Day---It's Mother's Night
Can't let this happen--we must Fight
All you Mothers--You know Birth
Let's pool that Feeling
For this Earth
All our Hopes, Love, Joy and Pain
We must make sure it's not in vain
With our Help there is a Ray
Let's do it NOW
For MOTHER'S DAY

Peace and Love,
Desert Flower

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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 05-11-2001 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RIGHT ON DS....WE DIDN'T BIRTH OUR BABIES FOR TESTING PURPOSES THATS FOR SURE!!!

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WonderWmn93
TRUST NO ONE!!!


Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-11-2001 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Desert flower.. that was beautiful! Everyone needs to stand up and say enough is enough. For the sake of our childrens future! Happy
Mothers Day to all the mothers here.
God bless,
Melanie

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 05-11-2001 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Mater's Dat right back at ya!!!!

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-11-2001 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Mother's Day everyone. I'm not one myself but just found out I'm going to be an Aunt again. Plus guess what? I have a Mom, so I'm in the spirit. I think all that have children are exceedingly brave.

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-11-2001 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all, Good to see ya back DS and Lulu, and hi again to Melanie and FLkook and RTW, Bless you all and Happy Mom's Day! Desert Flower, that was a fantastic poem! It's true, we either have kids or Moms to think about and how those lousy "Chems" will affect them, us, pets, plants even, the entire world really, as it seems to be just about "Global" in nature. I wish I could come up with an appropriate poem tonite, but boy, I hate to say...but I'm so "plugged up" (if you know what I mean, I gotta give myself a good enema later)....not that anyone wanted to know that...heh, heh, Hubby always says I've got s*** for brains and tonite, he's right! Those chemtrails, seriously, seemed to have affected my digestive system as well as respiratory system. Make sure ya'll get Thyroid function tested as when I did, I found it was "sluggish". I think the chems can affect the entire system of some folks. Enuf o" that...I got off the topic there. I do hope and pray that our kids and grandkids can inherit a better world and beautiful, crisp, blue, clean skies...that's why I can't give up on the entire issue...hubby says I'm obssessed about it, but I think we will have to persevere...it's too important of an issue! We all love our kids and Moms and we want to feel confident that all is right for them...It's disturbing to even see kids at the Park playing on a "Blitz" chem day...this just will not stand! Sorry for ranting, don't wanna be a bummer...Love and peace and Light to all of you! You're all THE GREATEST!!!

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Molliani
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Illinois
420 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-12-2001 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now I've heard everything !!

MOTHER'S DAY BANNED . . .
By ANDREA PEYSER
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May 8, 2001 -- PARENTS whose kids attend a pricey Manhattan private school are in an uproar over a new policy aimed at protecting the feelings of children raised by same-sex couples: Mother's Day has been banned.

And in the interest of fairness, Father's Day, too.

Students at Rodeph Sholom Day School on the Upper West Side, where tennis legend John McEnroe sends his children, came home Friday with an unusual note tucked into their book bags.

"I am writing this letter to inform you that after much thought and discussion this past year, we will not be celebrating Mother's Day and Father's Day," began the letter written by Cindi Samson, director of the school's lower elementary division.

"At this time, these holidays are not needed to enhance our writing and arts programs," the letter continued. "Second, families in our society are now diverse and varied.

"We are a school with many different family makeups, and we need to recognize the emotional well-being of all the children in our school. Holidays that serve no educational purpose and are not vital to the children's education need to be evaluated in terms of their importance in a school setting, as the recognition of these holidays in a social setting may not be a positive experience for all children."

When did the biblical commandment - "Honor thy father and thy mother" - become a threat to children's emotional well-being?

Said one outraged mother: "There are ways of showing sensitivity to the needs of children in unusual situations that don't require undermining traditional family structures.

"This is an inappropriate and politically correct response," said the mom, who asked not to be identified.

Rodeph Sholom, affiliated with a Reform Jewish synagogue, educates kids from age 2 through sixth grade. Tuition runs around $15,000 a year for pre-kindergarten, and just under $20,000 for grade 6.

The bans affect kids ages 4 and older; younger kids apparently are still permitted to celebrate Mother's Day, which is this coming Sunday. And Father's Day, which is June 17.

How did a seemingly innocent celebration become dangerous? Parents told me the school observes most Jewish and American holidays, such as Thanksgiving, by engaging children in art projects.

Last Mother's Day, kids made cards for their mommies. For Father's Day, they decorated soup cans for their dads to use as pen holders.

That ended last week, a parent said, when a man - who adopted his son with a male partner - boasted that he had persuaded administrators to remove Mother's Day from the school's holiday list.

Reached at school yesterday, Samson said the decision to cancel was not based on a single case.

"The reasoning was several-fold," Samson said. "One is, it didn't serve an academic and educational need. Number two, families are changing. Some children were very uncomfortable."

She pointed out that some kids have one parent. Or, "There may be two fathers, two mothers, the mother may not have custody, it could be a grandmother."

The school's headmaster, Irwin Schlachter, did not return a call.

One disappointed mother found the ban puzzling.

"I thought it was sweet that they spend some time thinking about their parents, making a little art project," said the mom, who suggested that kids without moms or dads make gifts for their grandparents.

Like most parents I interviewed, she feared speaking out would adversely affect her child, and asked not to be identified.

I'm not sure what's more fuzzy-headed: preventing kids from honoring their parents or believing that banning a celebration will somehow help kids who are not part of traditional families.

Kids don't live in a bubble. Not even on the Upper West Side.

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Molliani
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Illinois
420 posts, Mar 2001

posted 05-12-2001 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A former student speaks out:

My School Bans Mother’s Day
The self-esteem brigade marches on.

By Jonah Goldberg, NRO editor
May 8, 2001 12:45 p.m.

 
et me tell you a story about my days at the Rodeph
Sholom Day School.

When I was in first grade, my mom used to draw a whale on my brown paper lunch bag — a reference to the fact that my name is Jonah (my brother Josh got a trumpet). It was a cute little whale. It had a little water spout coming out of its back and it was usually smiling. When I got to school, I would put my lunch bag in with all the others in a corner of the room. At lunchtime, designated kids took turns distributing the bags and lunchboxes to their rightful owners. It was always clear that mine was the one with the whale on it, even when my name wasn't there. The other kids thought it was cool and so did I.

And therein lay the problem.

The school called in my mom for a meeting and asked her if she could please stop putting the whale on my lunch bag because this was unfair to kids with less pictogram-friendly names. Sure, the little Irvings and Bens could have drawings on their bags too, but a little froggy would have so much less meaning for Irving Greenberg than my whale did for me. And besides, a little frog didn't clarify whose lunch it was — anyone can have a frog — and that wouldn't get little Irv his cold knish any quicker.

In the self-esteem arms race (where arms are definitely for hugging) I had an unfair advantage in that my whale made me more special than the other kids. The school felt it would be best for everyone's self-esteem if I were to sacrifice a little of my own. Momma Goldberg quickly weighed the pros and cons of the situation and immediately responded: "The Goldberg family whale policy shall continue. Tell the other kids to get over it."

Well, it now looks like Rodeph Sholom has finally gotten some payback. They've cancelled Mother's Day. Andrea Peyser of the New York Post reports that last Friday, Rodeph Sholom's Hebraic munchkins came home with an unusual note for their parents.

"I am writing this letter to inform you that after much thought and discussion this past year, we will not be celebrating Mother's Day and Father's Day," wrote Cindi Samson, director of the school's lower elementary division.

"At this time, these holidays are not needed to enhance our writing and arts programs," the letter continued. "Second, families in our society are now diverse and varied. We are a school with many different family makeups, and we need to recognize the emotional well-being of all the children in our school. Holidays that serve no educational purpose and are not vital to the children's education need to be evaluated in terms of their importance in a school setting, as the recognition of these holidays in a social setting may not be a positive experience for all children."

Twenty-five years ago, it was unfair that my mom put a little whaley on my lunch bag. Today, it's unfair to have a mom at all.

Rodeph Sholom is a liberal and increasingly expensive reform-Jewish day school (it now costs $15,000 for pre-Kindergarten and up to $20K for sixth grade — a lot more than when I was a kid, including inflation). The parents are overwhelmingly Upper West Side Manhattan Jewish liberals. In other words, this is the place where they implant the microchip that forces you to take everything the New York Times says at face value (my Dad had mine removed).

"The reasoning was several-fold," Samson explained to the Post. "One is, it didn't serve an academic and educational need. Number two, families are changing. Some children were very uncomfortable."

First, this is simply a farce. As Andrea Peyser wonders, whatever happened to the solidly Jewish imperative found in the Old Testament to "Honor thy Father and Mother"? Presumably, the Fourth Commandment can be squeezed into some notion of a Jewish "education"?

Also, why wait until now? There were surely at least a few kids whose mothers had died before this ban went into effect. Isn't it far crueler to celebrate Mother's Day when only one kid is left out? And, besides, couldn't kids with two Daddies make up for their non-mommy status by having twice as much fun on Father's Day and vice versa?

More seriously, this exposes much of what's wrong not only with a certain brand of Jewish liberalism, but with self-esteem secularism more generally. My colleague at National Review Online, John Derbyshire, has written that, "in a civilized modern society, majorities owe a debt of tolerance to harmless minorities. But minorities also owe something to the majority: a decent respect for its tastes and opinions, and careful restraint in challenging them."

These days it seems everyone agrees that the majority owes the minority tolerance, but it's thought to be a bizarre idea that minorities should owe anybody anything. Some Jewish ACLU liberals have adopted the idea that any "exclusive" religious public activity is inherently immoral. They say Christians shouldn't "impose" their religion on others. I agree. But secular humanists, atheists, and religious minorities shouldn't impose their anti-majority biases on everybody else either.

The same analogy holds true for gays. Why ruin Mother's Day for everyone else? Besides, no one's doing the children of gay and lesbian couples any favors by teaching them that Mother's Day doesn't exist or that it's a mean, non-inclusive holiday. (We all know it's a scheme hatched by the international greeting-card cartel). Their self-esteem may suffer a fraction of a fraction of a percentage point as they watch a bunch of kids draw cards for their mommies. But, understanding they're different from the majority is a lesson they're going to have to learn no matter what, as the children of gays — and as Jews.

Just as Jewish kids do far better in life when they have a healthy respect for Christianity, the children of homosexuals — and homosexuals themselves — would be well-served if they showed others a little respect too. Denying Mother's Day will not change the fact that most people have mothers. And if that hurts some kids' self-esteem, as Momma Goldberg would say, "get over it."
 
 

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WonderWmn93
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Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001

posted 05-12-2001 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That just makes me sick
Makes me glad I homeschool my kids
God Bless,
Melanie

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