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Topic: Let's ban the U.N. from the U.S.!!! | Topic page views:
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1280 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-27-2001 10:12 AM
> http://sltrib.com/06262001/utah/108851.htm > > BY THOMAS BURR > > (c) 2001, THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE > > Most city councils have enough to do keeping the streets clean and > safe. Not La Verkin and Virgin. The rural southern Utah towns have > taken on the United Nations... > > The international organization has not exactly overrun them, but the > two town councils are considering ordinances that would erase all > traces of the United Nations in their communities, citing concerns the > body is usurping the sovereignty of the United States. > > "We've been pushed far enough, and long enough," La Verkin Mayor Dan > Howard said Monday. "We're tired of marching to [the U.N.] agenda. > Maybe now we can start to march on our own agenda. Maybe La Verkin is > the crucible to get the rest of the cities and the national government > to listen." > > Prompting the anti-U.N. ordinance was the case of Michael New, an Army > medic from Texas who was court-martialed in 1996 for refusing to wear > a U.N. beret and insignia for peacekeeping duty in Macedonia. New's > father, Daniel New, met with both town councils last week to discuss > the proposed ordinance. The proposed ordinance creates a "United > Nations-free zone" that would ban aiding the organization with town > funds, displaying any U.N. symbols on town property and prohibit the > "involuntary servitude" of any resident in U.N. peacekeeping > activities. > > Those who support the organization would be required to post signs > that say, "United Nations work conducted here." > > This is not the first time the towns, about 25 miles northeast of St. > George, have courted controversy. A year ago, the Virgin Town Council > passed a law requiring all households to own a gun. Last week, La > Verkin passed a resolution supporting the Second Amendment right to > bear arms. The towns have also passed legislation supporting free use > of public lands and opposing federal control. > > U.N. spokesman Farhan Haq said Monday that while his office often > receives criticism, this is the first time he has heard of a U.N.-free > zone. However, the organization had no comment on the issue. > > "The U.N. doesn't involve itself in the internal affairs of its member > states," Haq said. > > Likewise, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Susan Pittman said this > was also a first for her but said the Utah towns are perfectly free to > criticize the U.N. > > La Verkin Mayor Howard acknowledged the move was largely symbolic. But > that will not stop La Verkin from making a big splash out of it. The > City Council has scheduled a special Fourth of July meeting in which > it is expected to adopt the ordinance, making it the first such city > in the nation to do so, according to Howard. > > Meanwhile, Virgin officials are proceeding more cautiously. Virgin > Mayor Jay Lee calls the ordinance "real interesting," but is unsure > his council will pass it at its next meeting July 19. > > At least one council member opposes the U.N. measure. "It's just > another radical thing that we don't need," Ken Cornelius said. > > La Verkin Councilman Al Snow, who helped draft the ordinance, says the > city is only trying to shape the debate about the United Nations and > make a statement to the federal government: The United Nations should > not control U.S. foreign policy. > > Said Snow: "The Constitution is the supreme law of the land and not > some [U.N.] treaty that tries to supersede it." > > -- > Blayne > > > ================================================== > > "Oh, my countrymen! What will our children say, when they read the > history of these times. Should they find we tamely gave away without > one noble struggle, the most invaluable of earthly blessings? As they > drag the galling chain, will they not execrate us? If we have any > respect for things sacred; any regard to the dearest treasures on > earth; if we have one tender sentiment for posterity; if we would not > be despised by the whole world - let us in the most open, solemn > manner, and with determined fortitude, swear we will die, if we cannot > live free men!" > > Josiah Quincy, Jr., 1788 published in the Boston Gazette
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1280 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-27-2001 10:47 AM
> the UN Conference on the Environment. > > Excerpts: > > "However, dependence on private motor vehicles must be reduced, rather > than increased, if the U.S. is to implement the Clean Air Act, Intermodal > Surface Transportation Efficiency Act, and its pledge to abide by the > Agenda 21 goals of the UN Conference on the Environment in Rio, aimed at > slowing global climate change. " > > "This report suggests that rather than accepting a forecast for 46% more > VMT (vehicle miles of travel) in America in 2010, we face choices. > Implementation of existing laws, such as the Clean Air Act, can help us > reduce VMT growth by 2010 by 10% across America. In concert with full > development of ISTEA congestion management systems and the linking of land > use and transportation development, traffic growth can be constrained to > levels comparable to today, even as America grows a healthy, competitive > economy and livable communities for all its residents and citizens." > > [INTERMODAL SURFACE TRANSPORTATION EFFICIENCY ACT OF 1991 (ISTEA) - The > most recent federal surface transportation act; federal law that provides > conditions and authorization for flow of federal highway revenue to states > for roads, transit, ferries, and other transportation purposes. > ] > > TMIP > > The Travel Model Improvement Program (TMIP) is a multi-year, multi-agency > program to develop new travel demand modeling procedures which accurately > and reliably forecast travel for a broad range of modes, policy actions and > operational conditions. This web site has been established with the > assistance of the Bureau of Transportation Statistics and the Department of > Transportation to assure that practitioners have access to the best > transportation planning methods available. > > http://www.bts.gov/tmip/ > > Appendix 2: Motor Vehicle Use and the Clean Air Act: Boosting Efficiency by > Reducing Travel > > http://www.bts.gov/tmip/ > > In the 1990s, a number of factors are prompting major reconsideration of > long-held assumptions in transportation and other sectors of the U.S. and > global economy. For decades, it has been the assumption that the use of > automobiles would continue to grow beyond the foreseeable future as > economies expanded, as high speed travel extended its reach to more and > more locations, and as plentiful oil supplies ensured low cost energy for > boundless mobility. However, dependence on private motor vehicles must be > reduced, rather than increased, if the U.S. is to implement the Clean Air > Act, Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act, and its pledge to > abide by the Agenda 21 goals of the UN Conference on the Environment in > Rio, aimed at slowing global climate change. > > Even in metropolitan areas where mobile source air pollution is not seen as > a major public health threat, many transportation planners and policy > makers are beginning to reexamine long-range forecasts of strong and steady > growth in vehicle miles of travel (VMT) and vehicle trips. Long range plan > evaluations in region after region suggest that to accommodate such growth > would mean substantial increases in traffic congestion, even with major > road construction beyond what nearly anyone sees as feasible or desirable. > Some believe that "Intelligent Vehicle and Highway Systems" (IVHS) will > alleviate this congestion by packing more cars into the same street space > at higher speeds, but this approach would not address the resultant large > growth in transportation energy use and air pollution, affecting both local > health and global climate. > > Moreover, U.S. governments at all levels suffer from infrastructure > financing problems, which are exacerbated by large hidden subsidies to > motor vehicle users related to road and parking facility construction, > maintenance, and operations and even greater externalized costs of > accidents, noise and air pollution, and maintenance of secure access to oil > supplies. The failure of governments to adequately maintain infrastructure, > to provide efficient multi-modal access, and to encourage efficient > consumption of the large public investment in transportation is promoting a > growing consensus between environment and business interests that changes > in transportation pricing to manage transportation demand are imperative > for both economic and environmental sustainability. In short, users will > need to pay for what they use rather more than today. > > There are major opportunities to reduce automobile dependence by > "cashing-out" current subsidies to motor vehicle use, the converting fixed > costs of motor vehicle operation to variable costs incurred based on > vehicle use, and applying IVHS smart-technologies to provide for automated > toll collection, better transit information and operations systems, > real-time shared taxi dispatching, and substitution of information and > communications for transportation. Concurrently, investments in sidewalks, > bicycle lanes, and traffic calming strategies could restore the now > endangered ability to walk and bicycle safely in our communities, giving > people greater freedom to meet their daily activity needs without forced > dependence on the automobile. > > Several recent studies have questioned the effectiveness of major transit > investments on reducing motor vehicle use. What seems most apparent is that > investment in transit is a necessary but not sufficient part of successful > strategies for reducing automobile dependence in cities and suburbs. Much > evidence suggests that major transit investments will have little > effectiveness in stemming traffic growth unless land development is > clustered within walking distance of stations and stops and made friendly > for pedestrians, bicycles, and public transportation, rather than sprawled > across the landscape at low densities, supplied with excessive parking for > cars, and designed to discourage non-motorized travel. Reform of > exclusionary regulations which impede the development of affordable housing > -- such as accessory apartments in single family homes and townhouses -- > and convenience retail services within walking distance of where people > live and work are as necessary to reducing automobile dependence as > investments in public transportation and sidewalks. > > VMT will likely continue to rise so long as new development occurs more in > low-density, automobile dependent patterns than in clustered, mixed-use > patterns friendly to pedestrians, bicycles, and public transportation. > Increased use of telecommunications is likely to complement rather than > supplement transportation in the absence of demand management strategies > which influence travel demand. Many older urban areas, which have > infrastructure and land use patterns that provide freedom to live with less > dependence on private motor vehicles will continue to decline unless they > can be made attractive places once again for middle class families with > children. This will require major reforms in education, criminal justice, > and social welfare systems, which are now unable to address fundamental > community problems. Long-overdue reforms to ensure that motor vehicle use > and suburban sprawl is not subsidized either explicitly or implicitly and > to create a level playing field for market competition between > transportation modes and communication technologies could help revitalize > America's cities, ensure more livable communities, and boost long-term > economic competitiveness by stimulating more resource-efficient economic > choices. > > In short, there are no "magic bullet" solutions to transportation problems, > but a great need for developing multi-faceted strategies encompassing > changes in transportation and land use pricing policies, regulations, > street-space allocation, infrastructure spending priorities, urban design, > and land use patterns. > > This report suggests that rather than accepting a forecast for 46% more VMT > in America in 2010, we face choices. Implementation of existing laws, such > as the Clean Air Act, can help us reduce VMT growth by 2010 by 10% across > America. In concert with full development of ISTEA congestion management > systems and the linking of land use and transportation development, traffic > growth can be constrained to levels comparable to today, even as America > grows a healthy, competitive economy and livable communities for all its > residents and citizen > "This transfer of power from Congress to the United Nations has not, > however, been limited to the power to make war. Increasingly, Presidents > are using the U.N. not only to implement foreign policy in pursuit of > international peace, but also domestic policy in pursuit of international, > environmental, economic, education, social welfare and human rights policy, > both in derogation of the legislative prerogatives of Congress and of the > 50 State legislatures, and further in derogation of the rights of the > American people to constitute their own civil order." > > --Rep. Ron Paul's Special Order Speech - 9/18/00 > > >
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RidesTheWind
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The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 06-27-2001 10:56 AM
Can we ban Washington all together and start a new Government? I'm all for that.The first alternative Government that cares about the planet! Whoa wouldn't that be cool. When do we start Big D...................?
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1280 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-27-2001 01:02 PM
Soon I hope. I seems to me that the U.N. is really sticking their nose in our lives. Now they talk of controlling our use of automobiles and land. I say we tell them to go straight to HELLWhen is the country going to awaken to what is happening. The U.N. is taking control right before their collective eyes. And not slowly anymore. This country is under siege by outside and inside forces. They will have complete control within the next few years if things don't change quickly. DON'T LET THE UNITED NATIONS CONTROL AMERICANS WE ARE A FREE AND INDEPENDANT COUNTRY!!!! STAND UP AND FIGHT,KICK BUTT,YELL,SCREAM,WRITE LETTERS, EMAIL YOUR REPS, BUT DO SOMETHING!!!!!
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RidesTheWind
visionary

The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 06-27-2001 01:41 PM
I know this is going to sound strange to some so just bear with me here...David, do you suppose only certain people,say on a slightly different frequency can see the truth of chemtrails while those still asleep are on another frequency that can't physically see it? This would explain why some see some don't. I don't know. I keep saying that alot these days and its stupid.I do know,more than I care to know anymore. I wish sometimes I knew nothing but then again in the same breath I'm thankful for having been awakened to the truth of whats really happening to all of us.
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1280 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-27-2001 02:03 PM
RTW /Sitting in the barber shop (yes NSA,I do like haircuts) the talk was about the rain and and all of the strange illness's going around, the coughing and chest congestion and being ttired all of the time. I listened for awhile and finally could not keep quiet. I started to talk about the weather patterns and led up to the chem issue. Then talked about the newest U.N. proposals. Reaction."yeah things are getting weird". End of conversation. They did not want to discuss it further. Would rather talk about baseball and how the baseball makeup formula has been changed giving it better bounce. Can you belive that. Stupid, Incredibly stupid. People are becoming zombies, uncaring about their own damn future or the future of this country and their children.They can see just the same as you and I. They would rather ignore the situation than face it and have to make informed decisions about their own well being. Leave it up to someone else, don't bother me type of mentality. Maybe I'm just having a bad hairday, but this, HuH, attitude of Americans is upsetting. What happened to the take no s**t attitude this country used to have. No pride, not caring, give it away is now the norm. WAKE UP OUT THERE, IT IS OUR CHILDRENS FUTURE AND THE FUTURE OF THIS ONCE GREAT AND POWERFUL,INDEPENDANT NATION.
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amber
UK ENVOY

uk 445 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-27-2001 03:27 PM
[QUOTE] [ People are becoming ZOMBIES, uncaring about their own damn future or the future of this country and their children.--------------------------------------- The UK Government is now spending £2.5 million to fully implement a nation-wide deployment of CIA mind-control technology. The TETRA system pulses at 17.6 Hz broadcast at 400 MHz which is essentially the Pandora Project funded by the CIA in the late '60s and early '70s. Dr Ross Adey, the chief researcher on the Pandora Project has released a video to leading UK researchers which proves that not only does the TETRA system cause ELF ZOMBIFICATION by massive release of calcium ions in the cerebral cortex and the nervous system, but the activated calcium ions also cause massive hormonal disturbances which lead to frenzied imbalances, emotional and physical states.

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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1280 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 06-27-2001 03:51 PM
amber, that is so sad. To think that a government would feel the need to exert this much control. Revolt is the only thing that will stop this force, standing up and saying NO before it is far, far too late. 
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amber
UK ENVOY

uk 445 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-27-2001 04:38 PM
David, I think that it is already in operation - that's why people CANNOT? react to chemtrails and all the other c*** that goes with it. Back to what I think is therefore a pertinent question - WHY CAN WE REACT? There MUST be a common thread!!!! What we need, if people were willing, is to have a questionnaire of some sort to find similarities between us. If we found a common theme, perhaps that would explain how others could 'resist' or 'wake up'?
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-27-2001 11:04 PM
Amber, Right on! I am very interested in your idea!! We need to figure a way to all somehow be in touch and do survey!!! I have wondered the same thing myself for a long time....it seems like many of us that are "aware" are also suffering symptomologies from those chems...if there is a common bond in all of us that TPTB don't like, want, or need, or fear, even....that would explain a lot. The answer to the chem question may be easier than we thought but we gotta hit on the right question and research to get the right answer...you may have something there...a commonality in us all! Blessings, Joanne ^j^
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RidesTheWind
visionary

The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 06-28-2001 07:56 AM
Seems to me alot of the people I've talked with gung ho on Chemtrails are all ex hippies and pot smokers from the good old days.I've always said the reason they want to make pot illegal is so more folks won't have their minds altered so they are able to see the truth.Drugs do and did alter ones way of thinking,opening up our thoughts to new perceptions. Alot of the new age people TPTS hate are those that have deeper perceptions from having opened them up at one time or another.Once open you never close back up.
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-28-2001 08:29 AM
Gotta keep those neural pathways open!  They say that prayer also keeps them open... a lot of the fundamentalist Christians seem to be awake to what is going on in the world. I was in and out of my car yesterday, listening to some AM talk radio. Rush Limbaugh spoke about our country giving away our freedom. ( the anti-cell-phone issue really got him going) For all of his faults, he does "get it" on some level. Later I was listening to a local guy, Jerry Agar. He was discussing the current tax system. One caller was for an all-out revolt, while another woman talked about communism seeping into our country, she said that she thought tHeY would stop at nothing short of feudalism. So I wonder, were these people already awake? or did something specific wake them? 
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-28-2001 08:30 AM
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-28-2001 04:02 PM
RTW, I used to belong to a New Age womens meditation/prayer group and did find it true, that all the ladies there seemed much more aware of what is going on in the world, more aware of their surroundings, more spiritually connected, and yes, most were ex-hippies, I suspect. I,m glad if some folks seem like they're waking up, but we need more and a whole lot sooner too! This U N thing is really getting serious and out-of-hand!! With the "Shrub" in, I guess we all shoulda got a hint this would happen since "pappy" shrub was a NWO advocate too! I don't know what we all should do but I hope we can change something before it is too late...the hour is NOW!! Blessings and Heaven help us!! Joanne
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RidesTheWind
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The Void 1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 06-29-2001 08:53 AM
Its time to trim the bush and the time to do something was yesterday!!!If ya want to do something let me know.This is getting nowhere fast.
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior

S. Bossier, Louisiana 1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 06-29-2001 10:53 PM
RTW, You're right!! If IT didn't get DONE in the 60's, it may not get done now...changes should have been brought about way before this. I wish I knew what to do...what's two ole chicks like us gonna do anyway? (I'm older, anyway), when those sincere and conscientious folks that protested in Ohio worked their butts off...only about 50 of em at that...that's a darn poor commentary on where we all are today in this country...many of us care but what to do? Then there's the News Media pigs that bombard us with bias garbage at every turn...it's like having a million Mt. Everests that are made of crap and we have to climb them all and by then, our efforts will be "flushed" down the sea of despair. That freak John Stossel had his "Bias" show on tonite about us type of activists and made us all out to be crazy, uninformed radicals and that all the NEW Scientific crap happening today is so wonderful!! What an a** wipe! He stuck up for everything that you and I and people like us hate! He even seemed to sympathize with Cloned kids...now who is that gonna be for except the rich??? I can just see some dirt poor black couple or any poor couple for that matter go place an order for a perfect blonde, blue-eyed kid...like that's gonna happen if they aren't loaded to the teeth in money...what a world. That news show made me so angry...but there it is again, like you say, all that and a quarter will accomplish nothing....what can we do? I like the positive thoughts and visualization and all but wonder how much of our minds we still have left to control...look how many people were on aspartane for years and didn't realize what it was doing...I remember Hawaii in 1979 and Maui wowie and never would have believed a world like we have now was forming but there were signs, I suppose. ^j^ Joanne (Like Cheech and Chong used to say, "And all our dreams go up in smoke").
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