posted 02-21-2002 02:21 PM            

Duncan Kunz
Mesa, Arizona
duncankunz@cox.net

posted 02-21-2002 04:26 PM            

for those who have never heard it, or don't remember...maybe you could explain how you came to know "meagan's law"....

posted 02-24-2002 01:06 AM            

http://www.guerrillanews.com/crack/c_simpson.html

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"If you go back and you study Joseph Goebel's work on propaganda during the 1930s, during the Hitler years, Goebels was the propaganda chief for Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. Vicious anti-Semite. Mass murderer. And a very clever SOB. And one of the things that he figured out was that the most effective means of repression is repression that a person puts on himself or herself. That even in a country like Nazi Germany - even in the country with that level of brutality and hatred and violence - that all of the SS men could not keep ordinary German people down unless ordinary German people took in this ideology of Nazism and believed it themselves. So Goebels worked out some ways to encourage this happening. That, I think, was not unique to Nazi Germany. I think that human beings do that in a lot of different circumstances and I think they do it in today's circumstance. I don't think that the United States today is the same as Nazi Germany. There are not gas chambers today - or not gas chambers in the sense that were used for mass murder in the Nazi sense. But let me give you an example of how we internalize our own repression and that's cell phones."

"I have a cell phone. As a matter of fact, I wish I had brought it - I would have shown it to you. And occasionally I get business cards from people and they say the name of the guy or woman and their address and telephone and all this stuff and they'll say - there'll be a number and it'll say cell. You know? I mean it's like their cell number - it's like a cell in a prison."

"It's because here's this device that follows you absolutely wherever you go, where you are on call absolutely 24 hours a day. And with really even the most minor technological adjustments that are in fact underway now, you can be tracked 24 hours a day on the basis of your cell phone. You get people who voluntarily get one of these darn things and they'll pay to be put in a cell and to be followed around and tracked like this! And it's logical to them. And in a certain weird sense, it's even in their interest to do it. It's because it can be used in ambitious ways to advance a person's career and that sort of thing. But this is how the internalization of the world-view works. It's how we come to believe that our repression is actually a benefit to us."

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