Chemtrail Central
Register
Login
Member's Area
Member List
What's Popular
Who's Linking
Image Database
Search Images
New Images
Gallery
Link Database
Search Links
New Links
Chemtrail Forum
Active Topics
Who's Online
Polls
Search
Research
Flight Explorer
Unidentifiable
FAQs
Phenomena
Disinformation
Silver Orbs
Transcripts
News Archive
Top Websites
Channelings
Etcetera
PSAs
Media
Vote
  Chemtrail Central Forum
  Freeform
  Why Saturday Night Live & MadTV suck

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author
Topic:   Why Saturday Night Live & MadTV suck

Topic page views:

defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 03-08-2002 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
http://www.subgenius.com/scoop/X0002_THE_SCOOP-_Why_Satur.html


The most amusing thing about [Saturday Night Live] is that the stuff they did twenty years ago is still funnier than the crap they're churning out today.

Why? Genuine laughter is an involuntary neural response, requiring at least minimal comfort and empathy between the performer and audience.

For most folks here in the real world, it's a struggle to get by. That's more true now than in the '70s.

And notice that [all] of the popular old SNL characters -- the Coneheads, the cheeseburger cooks, the Killer Bees, Emily Litella, Todd and Lisa, the "wild and crazy guys," etc. -- were outsiders, vulnerable and struggling. Even the Land Shark had to plead with his victims before attacking.

Not surprisingly, most of the writing staff was working class. Their world and ours connected. Even the hosts -- Ralph Nader, Julian Bond, Jimmy Breslin, etc. -- were often champions of the little guy, as were musical guests like Patti Smith, Gil Scott Heron, and Frank Zappa.

Times change.

Today's 25-year-old comedy writers were 9 when Reagan was elected. Many are Harvard grads who chose TV writing instead of getting an M.B.A. [Saturday Night Live's] network is now owned by G.E., one of the biggest, nastiest defense contractors on the planet.

Not surprisingly, [SNL's] most notable recent hosts have been Lamar Alexander and Steve Forbes -- raw meat to the old writers; royalty in the new order.

Maybe that's why disdain for women, minorities, and the poor fairly oozed from a recent show:

Although impersonations of Johnny Carson and Phil Donahue, dressed for tennis at Carson's mansion, were performed with admiring reverence, an ad parody for "Russell & Tate: Attorneys" featured stereotypical jive-talking blacks working as lawyers. Apparently the very [idea] of lower-class blacks succeeding in a white-collar career is itself a source of humor. Can racism be more blunt? Rich whites, however, are worthy of tribute.

Meanwhile, the only working-class character was a boorish housewife with distended breasts, who shouted at neighbors and insulted innocent trick-or-treaters. White people without money are portrayed as intellectually, physically, and emotionally inferior.

Female sexuality seems to be a real problem. Dressed as the Church Lady, guest host Dana Carvey mocked Madonna with the word "slut" -- how clever! -- behaving precisely like the sort of smug self-righteous goon the Church Lady once satirized. In addition, gratuitous mentions of female circumcision -- which the writers must not know is forced genital mutilation akin to perpetual rape -- appeared in several sketches as a running gag.

Yipes.

As a musical break, Dr. Dre rationalized his multimillionaire status with a chorus of "gotta get that money baby, gotta get that cash." I didn't realize George Will was writing rap songs.

So much for empathy.

I also attended a recent taping of [SNL's] rival, [MAD TV], owned by Rupert Murdoch.

It was even worse. Laugh at this:

Elderly people kept in cages like animals. A white couple patiently waiting as a stupid black southerner gives directions. A big guy shoving a midget. Partygoers openly mocking a grieving man whose wife has just died.

The working class -- the audience at home, remember -- was represented by a poor uneducated couple (southerners again, of course) so addicted to pornography that the husband works literally sucking excrement. An inspired metaphor for the abuse of unskilled labor, perhaps? Nah, just a chance to be gross.

These writers are strangers to our world. [SNL] and [MAD TV] are about as blue-collar egalitarian as an Old Milwaukee laced with Rohypnol.

If the upper-class twits producing this compost want to improve their craft, they'll have to find a way to better understand and appreciate their audience.

Maybe they should get a job.


by Bob Harris



___________________________

Bob Harris is a political humorist who has performed at over 275 colleges nationwide.

___________________________

BTW, I'm not poor, black, homosexual, liberal, democrat, 'commie', nazi, republican, female or even a feminist or anything else the contrail believers might want to label me .... but this is not the kind of article you read every day, and IMO makes sense. These shows may still be funny, in a way, but not like they (SNL) used to be.

Maybe it's because so many of them keep dying? (see Saturday Night Dead in Other Trails forum)

[should have put this under "Kill your Television?]

[Edited 3 times, lastly by defender on 03-08-2002]

IP Logged

Jeanie
Senior Member

North East U.S.A.
525 posts, Nov 2001

posted 03-08-2002 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeanie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For DEFENDER::: Don't get yourself all bent out of shape watching modern so-called comedy. They wouldn't know true comedy if they tripped over it, I have to look far a wide to have a good laugh. My dog offers more laughs then they. Spend your time on something constructive and satisfying of your own choosing. Jeanie

IP Logged

defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 03-08-2002 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like good advice Jeannie, but I wonder how many people watch these shows without even realizing the messages they may be getting? I've seen them, but I rarely watch them anymore, there are so many other worthwhile things to do. (Like posting at CC!!)

TV quality seems worse year by year, esp mainstream NBC/ABC/CBS etc. (or maybe it was always bad and I just noticed it in the past few years?)... and of course NBC's spin-off cable networks with their 'war updates'!

(yeah, I should have put this in "Kill your TV")

[Edited 4 times, lastly by defender on 03-08-2002]

IP Logged

MerryB
New Member


5 posts, Feb 2002

posted 03-08-2002 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MerryB     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Defender:

I stopped watching TV about ten years ago. What I read and hear about the "shows" makes be realize I'm not missing much
You mentioned in your post that "comedy" featured old people in cages. Have you thought maybe this could be a psycological "message" being sent to us about nursing homes, for example?
I have a three-year old trained therapy dog whom I take to visit a nursing home every other week. Let me tell you, nearly all of these elderly are living in cages-either from drugs given them, Alzhmeirs or depression. There are about four patients,of fifty, able to understand why I, and my dog, are visiting them. The frightening thing is when dog "senses" the worst casesne sniff of an unmoving patient and he turns away. It is pathetic that the elderly, not necessarillly those in homes now, are not respected-for their wisdom-that would gladly share if people took in interest to ask.

IP Logged

defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 03-08-2002 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MerryB, it could be. Now that you mention it though, I wonder if maybe the writers purposely wrote that scene to point out the very fact you mentioned, about how nursing homes are. On the other hand, I'm not sure if a 'comedy' would be the place to make a commentary like that.

It could just as well have been done because they really thought it was funny, and that it's just another form of desensitizing, as they say has been done with so many violent movies/TV/video games. Creating kids/people who are insensitive to violence. Maybe someone would want us to be insensitive to the elderly/handicapped, both as kids and parents when we become elderly ourselves?

I don't know. But I know what you're saying about the reality of elderly being in cages due to medication and structure of nursing homes. With us baby-boomers getting older, we'd better think about taking this issue of nursing homes seriously, unless we want to live the way many of these people have to live.

I agree with you about how the elderly are wasted. Our TV society is all about being young, rich, beautiful....maybe even a little unscrupulous?... and you're considered a failure if you don't at least fall into one of those 'categories'. "If you can't spend money, or make money, what good are you?"

I think TPTSuck do require a young audience... get them early before they have a chance to learn anything of value?

You know, that's a very good point about the elderly and their medications. They're certainly easier to 'deal with' from the viewpoint of nursing home personnel... if they're zonked out, they don't ask for things as much, not so much of a bother. If they don't have kids to come and visit them, it's a pretty sad situation.

[Edited 3 times, lastly by defender on 03-08-2002]

IP Logged

Hoople
Senior Member


Charleston, Ar
167 posts, Dec 2001

posted 03-12-2002 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hoople     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just got around to reading this thread, and once again defender, I must thank you for opening another worthwhile topic of discussion.

I grew up watching a lot of TV. Shows like, Bonanza, Wagon Train, Gunsmoke, Paladin, Fury, SkyKing, American Bandstand, Ozzie and Hariett, My three Sons, Father Knows Best, Dick Powell and the original Tonight Show, Mr. Ed, Twilight Zone, Thriller, The Richard Boone Theatre, Andy Of Mayberry - then later - The Monkees, The Dean Martin Show,Smothers Brother, Then Came Bronson, Star Trek,High Chaparral, Mcloud The Andy Williams Show and on and on...(a veritable stroll down my TV memory lane). It is my belief that all of that television watching back then over those "wonder bread years" laid in some automaticities (circuits, grooves, patterns)with regard to my present day urge to go an turn on the TV "just to see what is on" when I have long since stopped enjoying TV programming. I find that it is a rare occassion when there is actually something on worth me spending my time to watch (I do enjoy The Antique Road Show on PBS). it appears to me that the prevelant emotional tone of the majority of TV programing is that of covert hostility. There is TV character after character uttering these phrases of hostility while displaying a cheerful expression on their face. The howls of laughter pouring forth from the canned audience subliminally telling the viewers it's totally okay to make others feel less than they are. It's "funny" to introvert another into their head. I stopped watching SNL years ago. It stinks!!

IP Logged

All times are CT (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:








Contact Us | Chemtrail Central


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.45c