posted 04-27-2002 05:45 PM            

Might be advantageous to try making some allies at work. Anyone close enough to trust?

posted 05-01-2002 07:51 AM            

I've gone from the "culling" school of thought to "solar shield" to "weather mod" and back again. Multi-purpose seems a possibility I guess.

In the case of "culling" it could be that there is a vaccine or antidote to what ever they intend to infect us with down the road. (assuming that the spray is some sort of prep) Since they have access, no worries.

In the case of "solar shield" there wouldn't be any concern that isn't universal.

In the case of "weather mod" they're in charge of the control panel, so no problem there.

Who knows? We've been getting sprayed hard here for the last three days. Our resident debunker Duncan's eloquent arguments that we can't trust observation and only can put our faith in established scientific reports goes down like so much horse hooey. What I have seen is overt and definitely NOT NORMAL.

Review history of citizens being used for unconsentual experimentation,couple that with what is going on over my own head and with the time I've been spending in our image data base here lately (going over more than 1000 pictures of the mess we've all witnessed)and "official" reports if they ever come will just be confirmation.

I'm not a scientist and I don't think Clifford Carnicom's reports are very convincing but it seems unreasonable to believe that TPTS will allow any evidence to come to light without immediately discrediting the source and data. See Truth Supression and What part of this don't we understand in Other Trails.

posted 05-01-2002 08:00 AM            

I've been open about my stance on the Chemtrail Issue. Next to my NRA sticker Thermit's sticker is the only one my car sports. Well, on the outside....my visors have a Proud Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy sticker and a Conspiracy Realist sticker.

No one treats me any differently at "work" but I'm one of the owners so being in a boss position they are probably not going to ridicule me to my face. I wear my politics and religion on my sleeve and always have so folks are used to me being outspoken.

posted 05-01-2002 09:39 AM            

Several comments here:

You can trust your observation all you want to, which is fine. What you can't trust (although you do) is your interpretation of the observations. I'd gone over this differentiation earlier with Phantom and Quack, but I think I went over their heads.

I have never argued that you should put your faith in anything. Indeed, the fact that chemtrails are a faith-based belief system for you is exactly why, in my opinion, you shouldn't trust (although you do) your interpretation of your observations.

Fact of the matter, FLKook, is that you haven't a clue about contrails (or, as you put it, the "reason" for chemtrails). It seems like you pick first one hypothesis, drop it, pick another, drop it, and so on. But what these hypotheses all have in common is the basic assumption that contrails are some sort of plot, so whatever hypothesis you come up with has to be crippled by that article of faith on your part.

But what really annoys me about the whole post is not the fact that you can't refute my arguments, but the fact that, like more and more of the people here, you use terms like 'horse hooey' to denigrate others' ideas. I notice that the more time I take to explain things simply, the cruder and off-topic the reply is. Of course, this is expected from some of the people here, but I'd always thought that you weren't that small of a person.

posted 05-01-2002 10:07 AM            

"You can trust your observation all you want to, which is fine. What you can't trust (although you do) is your interpretation of the observations. I'd gone over this differentiation earlier with Phantom and Quack, but I think I went over their heads."

"Fact of the matter, FLKook, is that you haven't a clue about contrails (or, as you put it, the "reason" for chemtrails)."

"But what really annoys me about the whole post is not the fact that you can't refute my arguments, but the fact that, like more and more of the people here, you use terms like 'horse hooey' to denigrate others' ideas. I notice that the more time I take to explain things simply, the cruder and off-topic the reply is. Of course, this is expected from some of the people here, but I'd always thought that you weren't that small of a person"

But on the other hand we all knew kunz was an anal cavity, just not how big.

Still compiling a list of his posts and time of each, on this and another board. When the time is right all will be sent to his employer with an accompanying complaint. Posting at work is counter-productive.

posted 05-01-2002 02:05 PM            

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But what really annoys me about the whole post is not the fact that you can't refute my arguments, but the fact that, like more and more of the people here, you use terms like 'horse hooey' to denigrate others' ideas.

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I said that the idea goes down like so much horse hooey....that is not denigrating your idea that is describing my digestion of it.

As for the "faith based belief system". comment and "hopping" around from one expanation to another, I've seen both of these used in the past on other posters. Get some new material.

When someone is trying to figure out exactly what they think about an issue they often lean in one direction or another while they're gathering more information.

I never brought your character in to it, but you did mine.

posted 05-01-2002 02:43 PM            

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Have you noticed that Kunz can NEVER reply to someone without elevating himself to a position of authority or supremacy, constantly looking down his nose at others.

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Yes, I have.

posted 05-01-2002 03:35 PM            

You're two of the greatest (and nicest) members of Chemtrail Central. I think both of you are just having a bad couple of days. Would you consider kissing and making up?

posted 05-01-2002 08:01 PM            

Duncan is human--I'll admit that. But he has principles and stands up for them. He also has a good sense of what science is, and isn't. I'm sorry he is losing patience with certain of our board members. He will eventually get banned if he continues on his current trajectory. However, I've found his contributions to be very valuable to the discussions here and I, for one, appreciate his presence. I definitely appreciate FLKook's presence as well, and I'm sorry to see the two of them scrapping.

posted 05-01-2002 10:40 PM            

The pilot's eyes glisten
Goggles on tight
Just one more pass
Then calls it a night

On home to family
Filtration system on
Checks his cloudbusters
None of them gone

Snuggled in bed
Next to the wife
So lives the Chempilot
Man, this is the life!

posted 05-01-2002 10:58 PM            

Duncan is human--I'll admit that.

3T - This is too funny. What alternatives
did you have in mind?

posted 05-02-2002 06:06 AM            

Suggested human alternative.

posted 05-02-2002 10:07 AM            

Small locket with MAXIMUM of 1/4 ct diamond (total weight).

One dozen roses (long stems optional, but not required).

Three sonnets, BUT must be interspersed with readings from Marks' Handbook for Mechanical Engineers, Ninth Edition at a ratio not to exceed 1/ sqrt(-1).

Hide husband's guns (I will hide Dawn's).

David cannot come along (two jealous spouses are more than enough).