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Molliani
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420 posts, Mar 2001

posted 06-03-2002 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember the USS Liberty

A time for tears, a time for prayer and a time for justice.

read more/hear more:
http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/

USS LIBERTY

"Attack one American and you attack all Americans" was once proclaimed by President Clinton. More recently, an Assistant Secretary for State proclaimed that the U. S. government always protects its citizens. These are damned lies and meaningless words. These words were not true in 1967 (when Israel deliberately attacked the USS LIBERTY,) and unfortunately, and in spite of these beautiful words, they are not even true today. Moreover, there is no such thing as justice.

On that June day in 1967, the weather was beautiful... Clear and sunny, visibility unlimited... the LIBERTY, an elaborate state-of-the art intelligence gathering platform, was in international waters off the Gaza strip and was flying the Stars and Stripes. Israeli reconnaissance planes flew overhead for hours. Pilots and ship's crew waved to each other. Then, inexplicably, unmarked Israeli aircraft began attacking the ship.

The defenseless LIBERTY radioed for help. Two aircraft carriers in the Med responded by launching fighter aircraft. Unbelievably, they were recalled by the White House. RADM Geis, then commanding the carriers in the Sixth Fleet, called Washington personally to confirm the order. SecDef McNamara came on the line, then President Johnson. Johnson indicated to Geis that the aircraft were to be returned, that he would not have his allies embarrassed, and that he didn't care who was killed or what was done to the ship. Geis, like any good sailor, recalled the aircraft.

With no help forthcoming, the LIBERTY fell an easy victim to Israel's motor torpedo boat attack. FIVE torpedoes were lobbed at the Liberty, one hit amidships and instantly killed 25 sailors. A total of 34 died in the attack, 172 were injured.

President Johnson went on television and announced to the American people that TEN sailors were killed in the "six minute accidental" attack. Sailors were ordered not to discuss the incident with ANYONE under threat of court-martial. We waited for the investigation... and for the explanations and the answers. Why did Israel attack the ship? Why did the U. S. Government turn its back on the crew members? The answers never came.

There has NEVER been a congressional investigation. No congressman has the guts to even suggest such a thing. There has been a NAVY-controlled white-washed investigation of the crew's actions during the attack, but nothing else was covered. Even in this, evidence was changed, and officers and crew who knew the answers were not asked the right questions and were told to shut up when they offered information.

The attack has been a matter of controversy since 1967. Survivors and many key government officials including Secretary of State Dean Rusk and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Moorer say the attack was no accident. Two Israeli officers have come forward to admit that the attack was no accident. Yet the Israeli government and its supporters insist it was a "tragic case of misidentification" and charge that survivors and their eyewitness supporters are lying.

The ship's crew is bitter. It is bitter because its own country turned its back on them... it is bitter because someone killed 34 Americans and got away with it...what's more, that its own government covered up the truth and HELPED them get away with it!

"Ahhh," you say. "Anti-Semitism!" No. Many of the ship's crew are Jewish, and we have many Jewish friends. We are NOT anti-Semitic. We ARE anti-Israel. We know that Israel has controlled the American congress for years... to the point where 34 dead sailors can go un-investigated!

What is even worse, I am convinced that the same thing could happen TODAY! Yes, I do believe that Israel could deliberately attack another U.S. ship TODAY and get away with it again, just exactly like they did in 1967! Israel has bragged about its control of the American congress. And in May, 2002, congress passed a resolution supporting Israel no matter what. 356 members of congress signed on, only 21 opposed. It has been said that Israel could get any legislation passed through congress with a veto-proof margin. I believe it.
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"A man who is good enough to shed his blood for his country is good enough to be given a square deal afterwards. More than that no man is entitled to,
and less than that no man shall have."
Theodore Roosevelt

Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.
Barry Goldwater

The history of the race, and each individual's experience,are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal
Mark Twain

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FLKook
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East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-04-2002 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a site with many interviews on real audio of survivors. I didn't have time to listen to any this morning but I thought others might find it interesting.

USS Liberty Survivors, and other experts in their own voices.
http://zog.to/3/liberty/voices.htm

Here is a list of just some of the interviews...

Lieutenant Commander Jim Ennes recalls message from Sixth Fleet Commander promising jet fighter support within ten minutes if needed.
Ennes describes pre-attack reconnaissance.
Ennes: Reconnaissance pilots were heard telling their headquarters that we were an American ship.
Ennes: Reconnaissance pilots circled the ship 13 times in the hours before the attack.
Ennes: Israeli documents admit that their aircraft identified us in the hours before the attack.
Seaman Bill Casper, a ship's lookout, says Israel is lying.
Survivor: Shell casings found on deck afterward were marked "Ft. Dix, New Jersey" indicating that our men were killed with munitions supplied to Israel by the United States.
Ensign David Lucas: The US flag flew throughout the attack except for a few seconds when it was shot down and immediately replaced.
Moorer: Israel's claim of mistaken identity does not hold water.
Signalman Joe Meadors helped haul up an oversize 9x13' flag before the torpedo boats arrived. Boatmen claim falsely that no flag was displayed.
Ennes: The aircraft carriers were forbidden to help.
Commander Dave Lewis, the officer in charge of Liberty's Research Department, was told by an admiral that President Lyndon Johnson ordered US forces not to defend the Liberty.
Meadors: Our government's refusal to send aid was a capital offense under U.S. military law.
U.S. Secretary of State Dean Rusk says the decision to attack a known American ship was made at a high level in the Israeli government.
Meadors: The helicopters that Israel claims were sent for "rescue," actually carried armed men in battle dress .
U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Thomas Moorer says an accident is "too much to swallow. The ship was deliberately attacked."
Meadors comments on cover-up.
Admiral Thomas Moorer, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, discusses reasons for the decision by Israel to attack.
Ennes says Israel is lying.
Survivor Halbardier describes Israeli machinegunning of Liberty's life rafts, a war crime under international law.
Ennes: The Israel government's claim that their forces tried to identify the ship before attacking is untrue.
Ennes: Attacking forces selectively jammed the radio frequencies we needed to call for help.
Captain Joseph Tully, CO of the aircraft carrier USS America, tells us that he was never questioned about the attack by anyone. Tully's aircraft were recalled by orders from Washington while the ship was still under attack.
Moorer: Why did Congress fail to investigate this attack?
Ennes: The attack did not stop immediately after the torpedo explosion as Israel claims.
Hrankowski: Israeli torpedomen fired on our liferafts in the water.
Ennes: Israel claims firing stopped as soon as the boats came close enough to identify the ship as American. Not so. They continued to fire from close range for another 40 minutes and fired upon liferafts in the water waiting for survivors.
Captain Tully: USS Saratoga launched rescue aircraft in ample time to drive away attacking torpedo boats. Orders from Washington directed the recall of those airplanes while Americans were dying. Tully has never been told why his aircraft wre recalled.
Survivor Rick Aimetti: Israeli helicopter hovering over obvious carnage asked, "Are there casualties."
Ennes: Court of Inquiry was not in accordance with Navy Regulations and reported findings unsupported by evidence and testimony.
Captain Tully: This is the only incident of its type not investigated by Congress.
Ennes: Israel has given at least six different versions of what happened, none of which agree with reports by eyewitness survivors.
Admiral Moorer: A mass grave at Arlington National Cemetery was misnamed as part of the effort to downplay this story.
Moorer: It was a deliberate attack in clear weather.
Rusk: The attack must have been authorized at a high level as it invovled several different Israeli commanders.
Ennes: Signalmen flashed our name and ID to attacking boats, but were ignored.
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Ship Stan White: The crew was told to keep quiet.
Ennes: An organized cover-up of the attack started immediately.
Seaman Tom Reilly reports that guards were stationed at his hospital door to prevent unauthorized contact with the press.
Ennes: Crew was threatened with prison if they ever talked about the attack.
Talkshow host: The Israeli government ignores most inquiries about the attack.
Survivor Phil Tourney reports being threatened with prison if he ever talks about the attack.
Commander George Golden, then Liberty's third-ranking officer, reports that key witnesses were not permitted to testify before the Navy Court of Inquiry.
Yeoman Brownfield reports that none of the press reports were accurate.
Commander Lewis: Our Captain's Medal of Honor was awarded in a private ceremony instead of by the President in the White House as is customary.
Dr. John Borne, author of "USS Liberty: Dissenting History vs Official History," discusses difficulty getting a proper investigation.
White: The Court of Inquiry did not interview key people and failed to allow others to testify about important events.
Moorer: USS Liberty bears no resemblance to the ship Israel claims to have mistaken it for.
Moorer: Vital records of this event have never been made public.
Moorer: Israel admits that they knew the USS Liberty was in the area. This should have caused special caution.
Meadors: The Liberty was not similar in any way to the ancient horse carrier El Quseir for which Israel claims it was mistaken.
Moorer: Congress has investigated all other major maritime incidents, but refuses to investigate this one.
Ennes: A review by the Department of State found the Israeli excuse untrue. The report was classified Top Secret.
Fireman John Hrankowski: Liberty men were dispersed, were ordered not to talk about the attack, and were stripped of distinctive USS Liberty uniform markings.
Commander David Lewis: Even the settlements were covered up.


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Alpha-Theta
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posted 06-04-2002 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alpha-Theta   Visit Alpha-Theta's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You know, upon reading this it is evident to me that our "shadow government" has been operative for MUCH longer then I had imagined. It's apparent that our democracy has never existed. Of course, I think we all know this anyway

It would seem logical to say that this attack was somewhat of a test, of constraint, if you will. The Americans passed by not defying our attackers. Hmm but what is the zionist link to the Illum?? Eclessia Gnostica Universalis



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increase 1776
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Oregon
532 posts, Oct 2000

posted 06-04-2002 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for increase 1776     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you're going in the right direction . These kind of things have been going on for a long time.How can the US military just stick they're heads deeper in the sand.The old adage 'people care more about MONEY than they do their fellow man'. If the shoe fits,etc.A friggin ugly piece of crappy lookin paper,over a human being,go figure. Alot of incidents,like Ruby Ridge,Waco,OKcity,9-11,phoney impeachment of the chomo Wm JC,they get an idea of the american mindset,figure out just how much they can get away with,a barometer if you will.Good, will, over come evil.

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Ellyn
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posted 06-05-2002 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dr. J.S. Chiappalone speaks extensively on the relationship between Zionism and the Illuminati, and the New World Order. His Web site is:
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~jdm/

David Icke also has written several books on this subject. He does not take the same position concerning the role of the Zionists as does Dr. Chiappalone. David Icke's Web site is: http://www.davidicke.com .

There are others, such as Myron C. Fagan, who wrote: The Illuminati and the Counsel on Foreign Relations. His Web site is: http://www.ptialaska.net/~swampy/illuminati/cfr_1.html#main


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Ellyn
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posted 06-08-2002 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.rense.com/general25/atta.htm

35th Anniversary Of Israel's
Attack On USS Liberty
By Beth Emley
Messenger Post Staff © Greece Post 2002
6-8-2

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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist


East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-08-2002 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great links Ellyn. You can help the survivors win a full congressional investigation by signing a petition here... http://www.petitiononline.com/liberty/petition.html Their web site is http://www.ussliberty.org

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Ellyn
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posted 06-09-2002 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Petition signed, and sent to others.

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Alpha-Theta
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posted 06-09-2002 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alpha-Theta   Visit Alpha-Theta's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I signed it too. Number 9312. Everybody please, take 2 minutes and sign this petition!!!!!

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FLKook
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East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001

posted 06-09-2002 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLKook     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's great. Yes, EVERYONE should take a minute and sign it! It is a very small thing that we can do to thank those that put their tails on the line for US and then were shafted by the very government they swore to protect. Like Wilfred Brimley used to say about oatmeal..."It's the right thing to do".

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