posted 10-02-2002 10:07 PM
Two nights ago an all out flame war occurred on the What? thread and Lulu was implicated as a LYING SLIMEY SPY by ME because of a slip of the tongue Yodabreath made. We all know Lulu hang's out over at the enemy camp A LOT, just sift through some of the threads and you'll see how chummy she is with everyone, especially chickiedeb their administrator.I submitted a detailed proposal for an in-situ sampling of a plume to Thermit and Lulu to acquire advertising space to raise funds here at CTC. That information was leaked to Maverick's group within 48 hrs. The following is a copy of Mav's board and the discussion they were having about my plans that only Lulu and Thermit knew about. One of the two leaked it. Post #8 page 5 of the What? thread, Yodabreath implicates Lulu.
My letter to Thermit:
Subject: Washed Boards Implicate Lulu
To: thermit@chemtrailcentral.com
Hello Thermit, here are the board pages [in question] from the debunkatorium the other night. As you will see they were scoured 17 minutes after I posted Cy/Yoda's remarks on page 6 of the What? thread. Please look into this. Yoda's post #8 on page 5 of the What? thread implicates Lulu. It's your call.
1. Maverick's Board: 9/29/02
cydoniaquest
Illumi~Naughty
Posts: 1450
(9/29/02 7:42:04 pm)
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The sad thing is...
...that now we've got people like (name removed) saying that they are going to put up (a significant amount) of their own money to go rent a jet and fly through these trails to try to pick up a sample....so I guess some truly still do believe in this thing.
Now I don't care so much what people spend their money on, but still it's a painful thing to see (if it happens) when simple logic will tell them all they want to know without spending a dime.
Hard earned bucks to collect ice crystal samples. Well, you know what they say about fools and their money.
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Edited by: cydoniaquest at: 9/29/02 8:51:33 pm
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2. PacerLJ35
Government Shill
Posts: 117
(9/29/02 7:58:18 pm)
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I'm all for in-situ sampling!
I say go for it....they can rent a Cessna Citation and go chasing whatever the hell they want...all they'll be doing is wasting their own hard-earned money while lining the pockets of a few lucky charter pilots!
Hell, if they can find one for rent, I'll be happy to serve as PIC on a Beechjet or Learjet....I'll simply request a block of altitude, fly through all the contrails they want all day long, and let them take whatever samples they wish from the windscreen. All for $200 a day. That's a bargain considering that co-pilots go for that in the real world.
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3. cydoniaquest
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Posts: 1451
(9/29/02 8:13:16 pm)
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Re: I'm all for in-situ sampling!
Someone said they had a pilot picked out already....but I think you'd be the perfect guy for the job. You understand the chemtrail issue. You know what they are looking for. You know exactly where to fly to get the sample. I think this is a great idea....It would be good to get people from both sides on that airplane though, and make sure everything is acceptible to the hard core chemmies among them. I wonder if some collection device (a bit more scientific than the windshield) couldn't be rigged somewhere else though, almost like a pitot tube device maybe?
[edited for my own good health]
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Edited by: cydoniaquest at: 9/29/02 9:14:04 pm
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4. F16Jock
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Posts: 157
(9/29/02 9:07:00 pm)
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Pick me, pick me!!
Have use of a Beechcraft Baron on someone elses nickel. Easily done but why would someone ho around chasing something that does not exist?
Should have told me about Tyndall and Eglin a couple of weeks ago as I just spent the last two weeks down there.
BTW--sued the real estate company that brought that scumbag Don "Payup" Bradley to my house. Went to mediation and I won!! Unfortunately I am not at liberty to discuss details of the settlement.
But needless to say it is a matter of public record that he is a lowlife, parastical piece of dung. The company apologized too for bringing him around.
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PAGE 6 OF THE WHAT? THREAD CHEMTRAIL CENTRAL after I found out it had been leaked.
POSTED AT 2:36 A.M. AT CTC.
Unhappy Trails
Senior Member
Seattle, WA
255 posts, May 2002
posted 09-30-2002 02:36 AM
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Copied from Mav's board. One of our own is a LYING SLIMEY SPY and leaked this in 2 days time. I never said a word about a pilot anywhere on this thread or the Thomas thread. I told Lulu and Thermit about the pilot in my proposal. One of them sold me out. I don't think it was Thermit.
cydoniaquestIllumi~Naughty AKA Yodabreath Posts: 1451(9/29/02 8:13:16 pm)Reply
Re: I'm all for in-situ sampling!
*Someone said they had a pilot picked out already....but I think you'd be the perfect guy for the job. You understand the chemtrail issue. You know what they are looking for. You know exactly where to fly to get the sample. I think this is a great idea....It would be good to get people from both sides on that airplane though, and make sure everything is acceptible to the hard core chemmies among them. I wonder if some collection device (a bit more scientific than the windshield) couldn't be rigged somewhere else though, almost like a pitot tube device maybe?[edited for my own good health] The above commentary brought to you by the excessive consumption of Snapple
Edited by: cydoniaquest at: 9/29/02 9:14:04 pm
TELL US YADABREATH Who's the snitch?
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MAVS'S BOARD WAS ERASED AT 1:53 A.M. 17 min. after the above post. Different time zone. Lulu was present when all of this took place, had gotten my FU message. That night they back pedaled, scoured and played dumb the next morning.
1. Illumi~Naughty
Posts: 1450
(9/29/02 7:42:04 pm)
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The sad thing is...
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Edited by: cydoniaquest at: 9/30/02 1:53:44* am
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2. PacerLJ35
Government Shill
Posts: 117
(9/29/02 7:58:18 pm)
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I'm all for in-situ sampling!
I say go for it....they can rent a Cessna Citation and go chasing whatever the hell they want...all they'll be doing is wasting their own hard-earned money while lining the pockets of a few lucky charter pilots!
Hell, if they can find one for rent, I'll be happy to serve as PIC on a Beechjet or Learjet....I'll simply request a block of altitude, fly through all the contrails they want all day long, and let them take whatever samples they wish from the windscreen. All for $200 a day. That's a bargain considering that co-pilots go for that in the real world.
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3. cydoniaquest
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Posts: 1451
(9/29/02 8:13:16 pm)
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Re: I'm all for in-situ sampling!
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Edited by: cydoniaquest at: 9/30/02 1:52:16 am
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4. F16Jock
Government Shill
Posts: 157
(9/29/02 9:07:00 pm)
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Pick me, pick me!!
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Have use of a Beechcraft Baron on someone elses nickel. Easily done but why would someone ho around chasing something that does not exist?
Should have told me about Tyndall and Eglin a couple of weeks ago as I just spent the last two weeks down there.
BTW--sued the real estate company that brought that scumbag Don "Payup" Bradley to my house. Went to mediation and I won!! Unfortunately I am not at liberty to discuss details of the settlement.
But needless to say it is a matter of public record that he is a lowlife, parastical piece of dung. The company apologized too for bringing him around.
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5. cydoniaquest
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Posts: 1452
(9/30/02 1:42:14 am)
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Re: Pick me, pick me!!
Would a Baron get up high enough though Dan? I suppose you could probably catch some of the lower trails...but Will Thomas ( I think) tried that and ran into difficulty (or so he says).
I think they are going to need a corporate jet for this one. And hey, it doesn't matter if you are chasing something that doesn't exist. They are going to foot the bill, right? The only problem I have with it...is the terrible loss someone will feel when it is discovered that this thing is all a hoax. I know what it is to loose that kind of money and a dream at the same time. I don't want to see anyone go through that kind of emotional upheaval.
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Edited by: cydoniaquest at: 9/30/02 1:43:07 am
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6. Lord Vader 33
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Posts: 499
(9/30/02 1:49:15 am)
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nuthin new
the powder generator has been addressed mnay times in the last couple of years pacer...search ctc...
nuthing new...
mooove along....
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7. Chickiedeb
Administrator
Posts: 1036
(9/30/02 4:41:40 am)
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Re: nuthin new
I disagree, oh Lord Vader. I think this is an excellent thread.
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MAVERICK'S BOARD ENDS. SCOURED
Compare Mav's board, specifically posts 1 and 3 by cydonoquest a.k.a.Yoda. The original vs. the erased one. Someone had something to hide alright.
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Now check out post #6 below from pg.5 of the What? thread with Yoda saying, "See Lulu I told you Pacer would do it." Apply this to the above scouring and the fact that I never mentioned anywhere at CTC about already finding a pilot, you'll find you have a traitor in your mist. Lulu leaked this to them. Nowhere did they have a conversation about Pacer...on either boards. That can be verified with the info I private messaged Thermit and Dan.
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1. **Lulu**
ice behaving badly
right here
1505 posts, Dec 2000
posted 09-29-2002 04:48 PM
Yodabreath stated :
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Oh hey, here's a novel concept....maybe they're just contrails?
Maybe they are just that Mr. Yodabreath...only one way to find out for sure...that is with an in situ chemtrail analysis. Wouldn't you agree ? that this is the only to shut the debunkers up who demand PROOF...and hey if nothing abnormal is found all the chemtrail believers can get on with their lives...a win win situation I think...don't you?
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2. Yodabreath
Senior Member
53 posts, Sep 2002
posted 09-29-2002 08:49 PM
Well....I do agree up to a point, it's a win/loose situation...the loss being a monetary one on the part of the chemmies.
And if chemmies want to put their money where their mouths are, then fine. But how are certain chemmies gonna feel when they spend money to discover ice crystals, when simple reasoning and logic would have told them the truth without spending a dime? It's so sad, really.
Oh and it's good to see A/T is improving his HTML skills....Maybe he can get a job in the web design industry and not have to work at Taco Bell. There is hope...(that's my message to the world)
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3. canex
Senior Member
USA
94 posts, Oct 2000
posted 09-29-2002 08:54 PM
Lewloo,
Even if the in situ analysis showed there was no contrail, it would not be a solution because the true believers would continue saying, "Yes, that was a contrail, but we know there are both chemtrails and contrails. So, we just sampled the wrong one."
But, hey, have a shot at it.
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4. Yodabreath
Senior Member
53 posts, Sep 2002
posted 09-29-2002 08:58 PM
And Canex...I don't care what U/T says, you look like a fine speciman of a human being....(and I say that as a perfectly straight hetero-sexual)...Not that there's anything wrong with that....
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5. PacerLJ35
Senior Member
Millbrook, AL, USA
255 posts, Apr 2002
posted 09-29-2002 09:00 PM
Hey, while we're at it...I'm a commercial pilot with Beechjet/Learjet type ratings. Find me a jet I can use for a day and I'll fly you guys around wherever you want.
Just make sure none of ya stuck any funky "collection devices" on the airplane, so the FAA will call it airworthy (Unless you have an STC for such a device).
But I agree....the ones that really believe will simply state that the wrong contrails were sampled....
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6. Yodabreath
Senior Member
53 posts, Sep 2002
posted 09-29-2002 09:03 PM
***See Lulu...I told you Pacer would do it...but there are some considerations of what you can do to the airframe of an airplane, as far as adding modifications like collection devices go.
Thermit doesn't see anything wrong here, do you? How did these people find out about a pilot? I sure as hell didn't tell 'em. Thermit says I gave it away citing my post on the Thomas thread:
Unhappy Trails
Senior Member
Seattle, WA
255 posts, May 2002
posted 09-23-2002 01:57 PM
Judging Thomas thread Pg. 1
"It's an expensive endeavor seeker with legal ramifications. If you care so much about hard evidence, how 'bout putting up $10,000 towards an in-situ sampling of a plume? $5k? $2k? $1k? Nah...didn't think so. I'm willing to commit to $5k...anybody else?"
THERMIT? WHERE'S THE MENTION OF THE PILOT HERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE AT THIS SITE? THERE ISN'T ONE.
WHY CAN'T THERMIT SEE HE HAS A TRAITOR AT THE HELM? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? I TRUSTED YOU GUYS WITH CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION...SHE TOOK IT RIGHT OVER TO MAVERICK'S AND YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG DEAL?
Alpha was angered and went to bat for me after he figured it out. Lulu banned him for it. Thanks Alpha. But Thermit thinks it's O.K. Go figure. She's going to have to ban me too A/T cuz I'm picking up where you left off.
LULU, YOU ARE THE LYING SLIMEY SPY HERE AND YOU CAN SHOVE THIS UP YOUR ASS HONEY WHERE THE LIGHT DON'T SHINE.
Hey Alpha, wait up.....................
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