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Topic: 'Jay' Reynolds: down for the count? | Topic page views:
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-04-2001 02:45 AM
   
While the debunkers have been prematurely celebrating the demise of Clifford's forum, it appears that one of their own has bitten the dust...
http://161.58.94.121/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=988509221&user=Chickiedeb http://www.geocities.com/unclejayjay/
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-04-2001 08:03 AM
Is the Sword of Damocles your handiwork, Chem11? Also the picture on the computer screen?
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-04-2001 12:13 PM
Gawd, no! That's Reynolds handiwork, not mine. Will Thomas is the gentleman hanging in the balance in front of the computerscreen. That's all that remains of Jay's website... probably on the advice of some lawyer.
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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 05-04-2001 01:10 PM
You know, it wouldn't surprise me, though, if CLiff's board went away for good - it's too damn active and they can't have that. Even with the blue-head censors, there is still too much getting out. Pop-ups were the plausible excuse for imminent demise, then the "gosh...we ain't got no money, we iz a foldin' our tent."What does that leave? This board and CTTUSA, but the problem with her board over yonder is that it is too linear and you don't have an outlined thread to read, you have to skip all over and nothing makes sense unless you spend 5 hours a day on it. That leaves...here.
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David
Chemtrail Information Agent
1280 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 05-04-2001 01:15 PM
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaa the wicked witch is dead!!!!!! Took a cyber bullet to the head. Poor Jay
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-04-2001 01:52 PM
Mr. Reynolds is in this for the long haul. Since before Chemtrails had their name he has been denying their existence. This is just a temporary break, he'll be back... He has predicted the demise of Chemtrail Central by 2005, or something like that...you can see he is thinking long term...
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ExitMisery
Senior Member
MO USA
23 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-04-2001 06:11 PM
Right now, I just think Mr. Reynold's "sub-mammal reptilian adventure" or whatever it is good for a real laugh. Could it be that the boy is getting honest with himself and starting to believe that which he purports to decrie? Therefore going away? Nah, that's giving ol' Jay far too much credit (i.e. like he actually has a brain or something...)
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Swedishoo
Vigilante
North Pinellas County, Florida
256 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-04-2001 10:13 PM
NSA, I'm not looking for an argument, but you have me puzzled. Why would you bash Cliff? Cliff is a really nice guy and allowed you to post all of your information.Christy
Chemtrail and Company...yet another message board
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-04-2001 10:18 PM
Since 04/21/01 Clifford has been locking threads, deleting posts, deleting participants, and deleting entire threads. (See Freeform for the latest MIA: http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000058.html )
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-04-2001 10:29 PM
The most recent of which was "Can you lock up the truth?" by NWH, immediatley after I broke my silence on the matter and responded on the thread. Something is definately up over there. The rules for posting have been thrown out the window and threads are removed in an almost random and senselessly destructive manner. Well, at least they got rid of the ads, if not the spyware...
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-05-2001 12:18 AM
You're not paranoid, Chem11, I'M paranoid. I thought the thread was deleted because of MY latest post. I noticed that Deborah had bumped up a bunch of stuff, so I looked for what might have offended. There was the little "truth" thread underneath all those bumps, so I added a post of my own, thus putting "truth" back on top of the stack. Later when I came back to the board, **poof** it was gone!
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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 05-05-2001 12:28 AM
I wasn't bashing Cliff. Reread the post. But let's face it, the other people on this thread certainly have VALID viewpoints that need addressing. Possibly you should take those discussion up?Also, Most of my threads that I started WERE deleted and locked out. It is MY threads these people are talking about...so your protestation kinda sucks. And then, I was kicked off the board.
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nsasucks
Chemtrails suck - alot!
Earth
530 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 05-05-2001 12:31 AM
3T3: So you noticed that pattern of Diamond Deb too? Start in toward reality and she shows up and "page-twos" your thread. When nothing is going on, there don't seem to be any bumps. Get back into the "real" and badabing!I'm glad others are seeing it. But hey, it's just "my 'magination" cuz, she was there from the beginning and once you are tight with Thomas, you are above suspicion. But if not a mole, certainly on hell of a censorship vampire.
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-05-2001 01:13 AM
Well, I hate to even discuss this openly because it fuels the perception of division among the CT community. It would be nice to work together and share information, but when your posts are being constantly deleted, what's the point? All anyone is going to see is the sanitized, censored, politically correct platform that is being engineered.If fear and paranoia exist, they exist because the gov't has embarked on a policy of implausible deniability and standard blanket denial. And because people are continuing to become sick. And because we are being decieved by even our spiritual leaders. And if we dare ask why, we are promptly gagged for the remainder of the proceedings. Well, sorry, but that just isn't going to happen. Let me briefly summarize: 1) We are being sprayed on a routine basis by, as yet, unidentified jet aircraft with a variety of chemical and/or biological agents. 2) Exposure to these agents can make you seriously, and in some cases, life-threatingly ill. 3) We are being be lied to concerning the reality of this situation by the gov't, the military, the main-stream media, and now by members of so-called independent or alternative media. Any further attempts to obstruct the investigation of the affiliations and motivations of the people constructing this lie will only be met with renewed focus and enthusiasm. Lock that.
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goldrush
Senior Member
No, Calif. USA
109 posts, Sep 2000
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posted 05-05-2001 01:25 AM
AHHH YES, "The Government", that really clears it up. Thanks, chem11. And Who is governing you? Peace, and Piece and Pieces, to add to so much accumulated information.... so much to learn and absorb.
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FLKook
Chemspiracy Realist
East Central Florida
706 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-05-2001 02:43 AM
They got rid of the ads over there? Haven't been there since the post on this thread where I was accused of being Sux himself. Wahhhaaaaaa stll laughing.The case of the mysterious missing threads reason enough to hang here, ads or no ads at carnicom. Any further attempts to obstruct the investigation of the affiliations and motivations of the people constructing this lie will only be met with renewed focus and enthusiasm. Yes, Chem11 there is the smell of intentional division among the CT fighter troops. Jul01, if you're reading this...welcome glad to see you decided to check things out over here.
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-05-2001 07:47 AM
Thermit -What would be involved in setting up some mirror sites and some alternative board sites? Something tells me that if we don't, one day we're going to click this address and bring up a "page not found" message instead of Chemtrail Central.
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Swedishoo
Vigilante
North Pinellas County, Florida
256 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-05-2001 03:05 PM
Well, I don't go over there as often as most of you did, so I didn't realize things were being deleted. I have to admit, I really hate censorship, and I know how you feel. Lorie deleted my stuff daily from CTTUSA and I was pro-Chemtrail! I NEVER delete at Chemtrail and Company. I let 'em fight it out if there's an argument. It's funny too, and Thermit will know what I'm talking about.... The posters will write you e-mails asking what you're going to do...Umm, nothing, fight it out...draw blood. Disagreeing in a respectable and courteous way is beneficial in growing and learning. Take Jay Reynolds for example... pain in the butt? Yep. BUT- He has led me to some good Chemtrail information that I didn't know before. Sometimes I've wondered if he didn't want us to learn more stuff or become sharper for some reason. Jay knew things before we did, you know.
Christy
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-05-2001 03:59 PM
I agree, Christy. While I don't think that the debunker community should be allowed to over-run legitimate forums and suck people into meaningless and circular arguements, I do think that we would do well to analyize and understand some of the tactics being employed.Reynolds is not un-intelligent and he will, eventually, be back. One of the sharpest points I have ever seen posted was Reynold's assertion that we would do well to understand and employ some of the "fifth columnist" tactics that are being used against us. Contrary to what others may claim, we are going to have to learn to play these "mind games"...or psy ops, as those in the INTEL community define them. This battle will ultimately be decided in the arena of public opinion. Efforts to decieve or mislead the American people should be met with swift and effective counter-measures, regardless of their source.
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WiseQuakker
Senior Member
Mt. Vernon, WA, USA
141 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-06-2001 02:53 PM
My guess is that Reynolds has been temporarily reassigned to the National Press Club and The Disclosure Project on May 9th......BTW... Has he accused anyone of witchcraft lately...???
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“When walking amongst predators, never lose awareness of your surroundings. By itself, science tells us what should be. Only tempered with clinical observation and common sense, does it tell us what really is......”
— The Quakk
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 05-07-2001 01:13 AM
The only problem is there is always "another" Jay Reynolds!! I wonder, are most of them agents or just "psychos"? What a dumb question...both, I suppose! If the "trails" are insignificant, why do they hound these sites like a dog on a bone?? Joanne
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2691 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-07-2001 05:36 PM
From Deb's board... quote:
I'm back
Posted on May 7, 2001 at 01:15:00 PM by Jay ReynoldsRumors of my decedence were grossly exagerrated.
Jay Dear Readers,
You most probably have heard the recent story from William Thomas
and Tiffany Brendt who claim that "chemtrails" were observed over
Brendt's home state of Maine on March 12th, 2001. They have played
a tape recording which features an altered voice they say is
that of an "Air Traffic Control Manager", who remains anonymous. In an effort to find the truth of the matter, I have researched
the claims made, surveyed what is known to be normal commercial traffic in the area, located satellite photos of the area at the
time, contacted a local meteorologist, and consulted the REAL Air Traffic Control Manager responsible for the area where Brendt lives. I present the results of my research, in conjunction with
"Chickiedeb", a lady who formerly was a believer in chemtrails,
at a new webpage on my newly restored website. What you will find there is factual information, documented, confirmable and
verifiable, not just what has been fed to you from an altered, anonymous voice and those with other agendas to promote. You will see what was actually said, what was false, and what was omitted. Please review the information I provide, and let me know of any questions you may have.
See - Contrails Over The Northeastern US, March 12th, 2001
At the following websites: http://worldzone.net/science/reality2u30/ http://www.geocities.com/unclejayjay/ http://goodsky.homestead.com/files/index.html
Happy trails,
Jay Reynolds
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WonderWmn93
TRUST NO ONE!!!
Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 12:05 AM
Ok, I haven't been here long enough to know everyone here. I know some of you from cliffs site, but who is this Jay Renyolds? I am asking this cause I just read an e-mail from him. It was the same thing that Thermit just posted from him. I don't know who he is or why he has my e-mail address? I just thought that I would ask you guys and see what you had to say about it. Does everyone here have access to e-mail addresses? It was just strange. Would like to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks in advance
God Bless,
Melanie
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cydoniaquest
nobody
nowhere
803 posts, Aug 2000
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posted 05-08-2001 12:23 AM
Jay was one of the original and probably most vocal de-bunkers of the chemtrail issue. He used to shoot his keyboard off a lot on this board and others, sort of even has developed a bit of a cult following among the chemtrail skeptics. They seem to take his word as gospel for some reason. He appears to be obsessed with disproving chemtrails altogether....to the point where some have speculated he must be paid!
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WonderWmn93
TRUST NO ONE!!!
Marysville,WA USA
133 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 05-08-2001 12:25 AM
Well, duh it figures I find out after I posted the message, that my e-mail is there for everyone to see. I didn't know that it gave my e-mail address. Oh well, no sense crying over spilt milk. I guess my question would be then.. how I take my e-mail address off? That way I can't be contacted by some freak like I was today. I'll probably figure it out on my own before someone lets me know. But then again, I may not! Still dosen't give me an answer as to why he sent his crap to me? Ok, bedtime is calling so I'll figure this one out in the morning 
God Bless,
Melanie
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