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Mech
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posted 01-04-2003 12:40 AM
  
HOMELAND SECURITY GETS ITS FIRST BLACK EYE!!!!!!January 3, 2003
Security loses bid to keep ID technology talks private
By Audrey Hudson
THE WASHINGTON TIMES The White House Office of Homeland Security lost a legal battle to conceal public records on its discussions of a national ID system and travel identification technology. U.S. District Court Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly ruled against the office's motion to dismiss the court case brought by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC), a nonprofit watchdog group on the effects of government activities on civil liberties and privacy.
The group filed the lawsuit in March after the White House office refused a request under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) to turn over memos, talking points, reports and draft legislation dealing with any effort to standardize driver's licenses across the country.
EPIC also sought information on the creation of biometric technology for a "trusted flier" program to identify airline passengers through retina and facial scans.
Judge Kollar-Kotelly instead ordered that the case move to the discovery and deposition phase, a victory for EPIC.
"This decision goes beyond the significance of a specific issue. The question is whether the activities of the Office of Homeland Security are going to be subjected to public oversight in the way that every other federal entity is," said David Sobel, general counsel for EPIC.
The group has 60 days from the court decision, issued Dec. 26, to provide documentation that the White House office is an agency and subject to FOIA.
The White House argues that the office and Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge are advisers to the president and thus exempt from the act.
"We are in the process of reviewing the opinion and we will be working with the Department of Justice to determine the appropriate course of legal action to pursue," said Brian Roehrkasse, spokesman for the Office of Homeland Security.
"At this point in time, we have a couple of months to file, and we will have reaction when we determine where we are going," Mr. Roehrkasse said.
The case was filed before Congress took action to create the Department of Homeland Security, which President Bush signed into law Nov. 25.
The legislation contained a clause forbidding the creation of a national identification card, but Mr. Sobel said a similar program could be worked around the legislation.
"It continues to be important to know what the White House has looked at and what was being proposed — it still might be in the works. There remains a lot of interest in the identification system, whether in the form of a full-blown ID card or to develop the so-called 'trusted flier' system. I think those programs are still very much under consideration," Mr. Sobel said.
Public access to information in the current Homeland Security Office also is necessary because the office will oversee creation of the new department in the coming year, he said.
"I think it is now even more important that entity not be beyond the reach of our open-government laws," Mr. Sobel said.
EPIC has a separate court case pending against the Defense Department to comply with a Nov. 21 request for copies of records maintained by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and all documents related to the Total Information Awareness program.
Critics of the program, designed to collect information to capture terrorists, say it will violate civil liberties by collecting financial and other sensitive information of ordinary citizens. ME IS LAUGHING MY ( | ) off! EPIC'S WEBSITE.......
http://www.epic.org/
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zaitech
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posted 01-04-2003 05:50 PM
Homeland Security Department issue's new "National Strategy To Secure Cyberspace". The Bush Administration is drafting a "plan" To create a central I.S.P. for all other I.S.P.'s to run under. The "Critical Infrastructure Protection Board" will stop the possibility of large-scale cyber-terrorist attacks that threaten the reliability of the internet. Linked and managed to the Homeland Security Department, "anomity" will no longer hinder Federal investigations. The board will also allow for the accurate tracking of funds transfers and purchases over the internet, making a "Consumption-Based Tax" easier to implement. While at the same time helping states' track and collect taxes under the proposed "Unified State Sales Tax Initative". Companies that make computer security software will of course have to have more Federal oversite. The Homeland Security Dept. will have to change the Uniform Commercial Code so that software conforms with the process of top-level security run by the HSD, monitored by the CIPB and maintained by the USTD and enforced/or used by the FEMA, FBI, NTSB, CIA, DOD, DEA, SBI, NCIC, IRS, NSA, NCG, DARPA, WHICH IN EFFECT utilizes the TIA otherwise know as "Total Information Awarness Program". Wew, tongue twister.
"Freedom's just another word for, nothing left to lose" Nothing, that's all that Bushy left me" "Feeling good was easy lord, when Wally didn't have the blues" "Feeling good is good enough for me, as long as they keep printin' all that money"
LA DE DA LA DE DA LA DE DA LADDY DA DA LA DE DA DA DAH LADDY LADD DE DE HEY HEeeeY Bush Policy! yahhhh ah ha
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zaitech
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3 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 01-04-2003 06:14 PM
"I'm sorry, but does anyone else think this administration is re-hashing old policy scripts the way Hollywood does remakes?" Central bank (fed reserve) Central Isp? WWII WWIII? Bush's statements about FDR, what a crock! Lyndon Larouche's bubble gum picked up from the "street" re-chewed by Bush and spit at the people sticky! Control money, control information, tell us our morals (or lack thereof)teach us (not really. Why don't we have Leaders who advance our society? Why don't we just send a real message to the government. You exist because we exist. Without us you can't do anything.I got a revolutionary idea!! Why doesn't all the people who would like real change and no war policy take the whole second week of January off work, spend some time with your families. Cut the spigot of money off! Show the government and the world we care more about "families" of all people, and can be responsible for ourselves. If we have no privacy we will forced to be liars. I don't care what other people "do". I'll just do what all the talented smart people will do in the next few years. Leave the United States to its' self-destructive policies and bad scripts. See you all in South America where people still have their pride. At least until it becomes The United States of the "Americas"
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Mech
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posted 01-06-2003 06:39 AM
You mean the sub-minimum wage PAN-AMERICAN-UNION...... Will the OILIGARCHY ever truly be exposed.? "----LA DE DA LA DE DA LA DE DA LADDY DA DA LA DE DA DA DAH LADDY LADD DE DE HEY HEeeeY Bush Policy! yahhhh ah ha-----" OMG...LMAO I almost bust a gut..
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