posted 09-29-2003 05:30 PM            

I noticed a previous post regarding NESARA. I though this would be of interest here. I've been researching things I find interesting for most of my life. Way back in 1985 I heard about a future honest and wonderful government that will allow us to move into "The Golden Age". Over the years I've put a lot of "pieces together." The last seven years or so I've been using Reverse Speech to guide my research. Much of Reverse Speech comes from our deeper mind and thus can reveal incredible information. This helps a lot to separate the disinformation & lies from the real information. 
I learned a lot about the international bankers, government corruption, and the things that have been suppressed like free energy, ChemTrail info and the powers of our minds etc. Around 1995 I attended a lecture given by David Morehouse. During his lecture he said he remote viewed a future revolution in the U.S. As I remember, he indicated that we the people would win. Gradually I've gathered more info about this, and now it seems as though this revolution is about to be won. It's been a VERY quite revolution. NESARA fits all of this. Now there is this from Kim Clement. Here is a small report.
On September 6th, I received an email that was a transcript* of a purported prophecy by Kim Clement. The email claimed that Kim was close to being 100% accurate in his prophecies. I was intrigued by this prophecy as it seems to be describing NESARA or "Solon's Republic." Solon's Republic was prophesied back in 1985 or earlier, as a coming fantastic government that will bring real freedom to the USA. The way Kim Clement talked, it seemed quite clear that he knew nothing of NESARA / Solon's Republic.  In the simplest of terms the announcement of NESARA should be the beginning of the "Shift of the ages" and bring on thousands of years of peace, harmony, freedom and unlimitedness.
I did a search to see if I could find out more information about this prophecy. I found Kim Clement's website. There he had the audio of his prophecies, including the one from Sept. 2nd* and also one from July 1996. The part of the July 1996 prophecy that seems mostly accurate is the first part of the prophecy from July 1996** It seems to be a rather accurate prophecy about 911. An audio source is very nice, because the audio gives a lot of extra information. Just listening to Kim, I get a rather clear impression that he's quite sincere. There is also another avenue that can be applied to the audio, and that is Reverse Speech analysis.  
So what does my reverse speech analysis reveal? The first thing that I noticed, is that Kim during eight minutes of audio is producing a lot of clear reversals. I readily found four. This is an indication of heightened emotional state. In an hour's recording I'll normally find zero to three reversals this clear. And all the reversals that I've found also seem to be agreeing with Kim's forward speech. This means as I see it Kim's deeper mind basically agrees with this prophecy! 
In the forward speech on reversal #2 "Mash McDougle" Kim is talking about the spirit that has ruled, the spirit of Absolam losing his head. As I understand it, this reversal indicates that the top puppet master in the world will be toppled and will not be able to pull all the strings any more. If I've heard this correctly, McDougle could be the name of this person or it could be a metaphor for the person that pulls all the strings.
Reversal #1: www.jeffreyptoth.com/downloads/HeWashedTheShit.mp3
Reversal #2: www.jeffreyptoth.com/downloads/MashMcDougle.mp3
Reversal #3: www.jeffreyptoth.com/downloads/EvilStopIt.mp3
NESARA information***: www.nesara.us 
Sept. 2003 Prophecy: www.kimclement.com./words/2003sept/TBN9-2-03.wma
First part of July 1996 prophecy: www.jeffreyptoth.com/downloads/july1996a.mp3
Full July 1996 Prophecy: www.kimclement.com./words/1996/july1996.wma

* I've edited this email transcript on the Sept. 2nd, 2003 prophecy, but it's still not fully accurate. My thanks to Marna Howard for the original. Also it's clear to me that some parts of Kim's previous prophecy's are not 100% correct.

"... I saw the powers of darkness that are trying to hold you down, fall as if struck by lightning. What I'm saying when you give praise...
The Spirit of the Lord says there's many tonight across this nation, many will hear the sounds this week. Many will be freed, many will be delivered. Not because a man is singing to the piano. Many will be delivered says the lord because my power will be released because of the sounds of praise. 
This nation has been under severe attack, but the Spirit of the Lord says, do not fear 'I am exposing once, then twice, then three times. In the next month I will expose those that are hidden and will bring them to the fore' says the Lord. I demand that there will be peace in the month of October. In the month of October, I will bring your president to the place of vindication. Because of what I am going to do and how I am going to reveal it, says the Lord, I will expose and this nation shall rejoice greatly for the glory of the Lord will move in the month of October. A month of unusual miracles is coming upon America and upon many nations. The month of October shall be set aside for unusual miracles--creative miracles, and if you will believe my Word, I will release it into your bodies, into your businesses, into the prisons, into your children, and into your families.
America has been set aside for the month of October for divine vindication, says the Lord. Even the economy shall be raised up, and there will be a break through financially. Take this and rejoice, says the Lord, for it shall be so. America, "A veil is being removed right now. The kingdom of God is exploding in America right now, Churches that are falling to pieces shall suddenly be raised up. The spirit of Absolam that has ruled shall lose his head. I'll send an angel to watch over you, America. God has not stopped. He is moving greatly for you. We are aligned now for the harvest like never before. God has not stopped. He is moving mightily for you. 'If God be for us, who can be against us?' We are aligned perfectly now for a harvest like never before."

posted 09-29-2003 06:04 PM            

War...more poverty..injustice..environmental destruction..and most dispicable of all..the shreddiong of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

I for one wont wait for NESARA to save us. Basically we are all on our own to fix things. Jesus and or Aliens arent going fix things for us. The world is a cruel place. Only WE can make the choice to fix that.

As for the "shift of ages"?

Great idea in concept but HOW do you expect people to suddenly evolve overnight? Sounds impossible if you ask me.

Dont mean to rain on your parade or dampen your spirits but...geez...this seems a little bit farfetched compared to the grim, meathook realities we all have to face everyday.

I hope I eat my words..I really do.

posted 09-29-2003 06:40 PM            

In the future, there will be much turmoil. Wars, the fall of many cities, the rise of new cities, a volcano that explodes and puts many U.S. cities in darkness, the collapse of the U.S. government, people killing for food and water, a giant explosion in the earth's atmosphere that destroys much land, a new type of human being, young and of a peaceful nature, fewer cities, eventually people in content.

In the future, increasing natural disasters will happen: more hurricanes and floods, more earthquakes and volcanoes, governments breaking up, wars. Following this period of upheaval, the planet will grow peaceful, humanity and nature better, people will become more spiritual.

According to one near-death experiencer, the future will be like this: No nuclear war will occur. Out of all the wars that mankind tried to start, God has allowed only a few of these to happen, to bring people to their senses and stop them. For the next 200 years, God will rescind some of our free will in order to have more divine control over events in order to bring heaven to earth. People will live in such peace and harmony and love that communication will be telepathic, travel instantaneous and the need for clothing and shelter eliminated. People will be able to control the weather and grow plants through loving communication. But first, if current trends continue, a massive worldwide economic depression will occur.

There is a 20 year period from 1992 to 2012 when things will be greatly accelerated on earth. All these things will be manifest by great earth changes: earthquakes, floods, tidal waves, great winds. There will be certain areas that will be particularly affected – the areas of the east coast, which will be a surprised regarding earthquakes. Japan will slip into the ocean. There will be something akin to 3 days of darkness, but not from a nuclear war, but from natural earth disasters with smoke from volcanoes that would block the sun.

The Pacific Rim is really going to take a beating from earthquakes. Icebergs will break up and move into warmer waters. The melting of them will raise the water table. The water will not come in and swallow up all the land, it will leave areas where there will be large islands. America will not be destroyed.

There will be earthquakes along the Ring of fire in the Pacific. A one world government will rise and concentration camps will appear. There will be diseases and germ warfare. These will not last. There will come another time of peace and another time of joy and we will be safe.

There will be an increasing incidence of earthquakes, volcanic activity and generally massive geophysical changes. There will be resultant disturbances in weather patterns and food supplies. The world economic system will collapse, and the possibility of nuclear war or accident is very great. All of these events are transitional rather than ultimate, however, and they will be followed by a new era in human history, marked by human brotherhood, universal love and world peace. Though many will die, the earth will live.

There are going to be a lot of upheavals such as earthquakes and volcanoes occurring in the next few years, which are going to get increasingly worse. These activities are a reflection of all the social upheaval and violence that is going on all over the world at the moment.

The seismic activity is going to increase terribly and the United States is going to start suffering some great seismic problems.

There will be a tremendous upheaval in the world as a result of our general ignorance of "true" reality. We are breaking the laws of the universe, and as a result of this we will suffer. This suffering is not due to the vengeance of an indignant God, but rather like the pain one might suffer as a result of arrogantly defying the law of gravity. It will be an inevitable educational cleansing of the earth that will creep up upon us. Humanity is being consumed by the cancers of arrogance, materialism, racism, chauvinism, and separatist thinking. Sense will turn to nonsense, and calamity, in the end, turning to providence. At the end of this general period of transition, humanity will be "born anew," with a new sense of their place in the universe. The birth process, however, as in all the kingdoms, will be exquisitely painful. Humanity will emerge humbled yet educated, peaceful, and, at last, unified.

The poles of the earth are going to shift. The earth will stretch and groan while giving birth to a new consciousness. Every so often in the history of the world this happens and is inevitable in order for the earth to bring forth a new state of evolution.

There may be a pole shift ... there are going to be polar changes ... it’s not going to kill all the races off, but we’re going to have to start again from square one ... There’s going to be a larger land mass.

There are going to be very severe droughts in many countries. Others are going to suffer from freak storms that will cause tidal waves or flooding to happen as a result of unnaturally heavy rainfalls ... All in all, the weather is going to be very unpredictable from now on, in fact these disturbances in the weather patterns have already started.

The weather is going to go crazy. We will just as likely have snow in the middle of the summer as one hundred degree weather. There will be droughts in other countries.

There are going to be serious food shortages around the world due to droughts in many places. This will push the price of food up so that many people will have to start going without things that they have always taken for granted.

We’ll start getting more droughts, which will bring about shortages in crops and the shortage in crops will cause food prices to rise, which will cause a strain on the economic situation, which is already going downhill. Also at the same time ... because of the shortage of food and the failing economy, there will be a strengthening of arms which will cause tension ... These kinds of hostilities and (increasing) inflation will start more hostilities.

After the darkest hour passes away, during which time all the former things of this world have disintegrated and decayed, a new consciousness will emerge and humanity will evolve in a new form. A Golden Age will arrive in which people will live in love and harmony with each other and all of nature.

At the end of this general period of transition, humanity will be "born anew", with a new sense of their place in the universe. The birth process, however, as in all the kingdoms, will be exquisitely painful. Humanity will emerge humbled yet educated, peaceful, and, at last, unified.

After the disasters, raising children will be the chief concern. People will garden with almost no physical effort. The importance of knowledge will be replaced with the importance of wisdom. Humans will receive anything through prayer. Death will be better understood.

It will be a safer world; with more trees; with population controlled; with changes in politics, money and energy; with longer lifespans; with more of an understanding of death.

Humanity is living in the "Laodicean" church age. This is the final age described in the Book of Revelation as the age before a coming new age of Christ's reign on earth.

God is currently recruiting an "army" that will shake the established hierarchy of organized religion. Though these "soldiers", God will produce miracles before the second coming of Christ.

History is in the final moments before the second coming of Christ. There is currently a war between the forces of darkness and the forces of light going on in this world.

Christ is going to return very soon.

Some women are informed of future children they will have once they return to the physical from a near-death experience.

Nothing is absolutely fixed and everything depends on how we choose to use our own free will. Even those events that are already predestined can be changed or modified by a change in our own way of relating to them.