Senior Member

Jersey City
159 posts, Jun 2001

posted 01-20-2004 10:33 PM            

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http://www.marijuana.com/article.php?sid=8435&mode=nested&order=0

MAN KILLED BY 23,000 SPLIFFS

Jan 20 2004

`First Brit' to die of dope poisoning

By Richard Smith

A YOUNG man has died from cannabis poisoning after smoking around 23,000 joints.

Experts believe Lee Maisey, 36, is the first Briton to die as a direct result of taking the drug.

Cannabis will be downgraded from a class B to a class C illegal drug by the Government on January 29. The move means most small-scale users will be let off with a warning.
[zombienote: This is wishful thinking: a complete fabrication. The British reefer madness delegation is as nutty as the American and they have been desparate to be able to make this outlandish claim.]

Leesmoked around six joints aday for 11 years, an inquest heard. A pal found him dead last August on the living room floor of the house they shared.

Lee had complained of a headache the day before. But coroner Michael Howells said he was free from disease.

The cause of Lee's death was listed as ''cannabis toxicity'' after a post mortem revealed high levels in his blood. The inquest recorded a verdict of death by misadventure because of his illegal drug use.

Experts warned after the case in Pembroke, Wales that cannabis can be much more powerful than users think.

Dr Philip Guy, an addictions expert at Hull University, said yesterday: ''Cannabis is not the nice hippy drug it used to be. It is a lot stronger nowadays.''

Dr Guy added that people who ate the drug rather than smoked it were more at risk.

''If you eat a large amount of cannabis it can be deadly, '' he said. ''I would not be surprised if in this case the deceased had ingested a fatal amount.''

[zombienote: Dr. Guy is speculating. IF you eat RAW cannabis, you are going to get very ill: it expands from the cellulose and can kill people becasue of internal injuries. The same happens with raw potatos. Judge Francis Young of the DEA pointed this out in 1988. Old News. Where is the outrage over raw potatos?]
Cannabis has been linked to suicides and fatal accidents. But Lee's case is the first where it has been listed as a direct cause of death.

The Government has always insisted that cannabis is harmful and should not be used.

[zombienote: So now they have commandeered a dead man and will wheel him around as proof of their reefer mad claim.]
But Home Secretary David Blunkett says he is downgrading it to class C to help police focus on more dangerous drugs like heroin and crack cocaine.

Blunkett said this week: ''I want to get people off trying cannabis, but I want the education message to be clear: Don't pretend cannabis and crack are the same. They are not.''

[zombienote: Well, 1 cheer for Blunkett - he got that right. Here in the US we have the ultra-highly paid John Walters trying to make people think they ARE the same.
My Verdict: Just because some a small group of reefer mad nuts in England "rule" that cannabis killed this man, it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. People would have known long before now if cannabis really was deadly - we'd have dead Rastas and college students everywhere. Liars can sign death certificates, especially if they work for a government.]

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Iraq, Baghdad.
168 posts, Jan 2003

posted 01-21-2004 01:34 PM            

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More B.S.

I'd like to see a few doctors in a room re-evauluating this case and see what the real cause of death was.

Anyone who thinks that Cannabis kills needs to read:

"The Emperor Wears No Clothes" by Jack Herer
Not only has it concrete facts about Sativa but it is also a awsome conspiracy book. True conspiracy that is: Not theory.

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Third eye vision.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bhang on 01-21-2004]

Senior Member

Jersey City
159 posts, Jun 2001

posted 01-21-2004 02:57 PM            

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Yep,

The same as the "LSD causes chromosome damage" of the 60's, or "Marijuana causes violence" of the 30's.

Can't have anything competing with the Great Stupifier, Alcohol, or Prozac, can we?

Simple fact is Jah Weed has been used for thousands of years with no ill effects except too much eating!

[Edited 1 times, lastly by swamp gas on 01-21-2004]

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19 posts, Sep 2003

posted 01-21-2004 08:05 PM            

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There are so many things that Marijuana is good for it is ridiculous.

Nausea and loss of appetite for cancer patients.

Glucoma - releaves the pressure behind the retina.

Used as an anti depressant.

For non toxic entertainment.

And I'm sure there are many more.

TPTB just can't patient it, so they destroy the credibility of it. Just as alcohol was becoming legal - Anslinger - had to find a new revenue for his department. thus 'Reefer Madness'.

Capitalist Pigs that they are.

Trolling for Trolls

NW Florida
174 posts, Apr 2003

posted 01-21-2004 09:14 PM            

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Mainly we couldnt have Hemp around and ruin our cotton clothes now could we?

Thats the sad part

Now for alittle history lesson for you peeps

Taken from the Cannibas Growers Bible:
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Wild Cannabis plants are rare in countries that have tried to
eliminate the plant by burning fields and conditioning woodlands. In
certain countries the Cannabis plant has been identified as a dangerous
drug and has been killed off by human beings and law enforcement
officials. It is treated as a weed and as a plant that causes social,
mental and physical problems. None of these reasons for removing the
plant are well founded but the cull of cannabis has occurred anyhow.
The Cannabis plant was used for many things other than the
extraction of THC (to be discussed later). Our ancestors, up until the
late 1800’s early 1900’s, used the Cannabis plant to create clothing
and other materials. The Cannabis plant or ‘hemp’ as it is called in the
textile industry is a very strong material and will withstand large
amounts of stress applied to it. Hemp material is widely regarded as
one of the best possible materials for producing fabrics. A pair of
trousers made from hemp, or a shirt made from hemp will withstand
the test of time. It is a far more superior material than cotton. This
should give you some clues as to why the fabrics industry wanted to
put a stop to the cultivation of marijuana in the late 1800’s. Hemp
fabric products will last longer than cotton fabric products thus the
buyer buys less over longer periods of time. This is the first instance of
the Cannabis plant being subjected to ridicule for capitalist gain.
The Cannabis plant has been subjected to a number of
stereotypical formats. The first one is that the resin produced by the
plant is physically addictive. This is not true and I will explain why. In
psychiatry there is a list of classifications for addictions of all abusive substances. It is contained in a paper called - ICD-10 (classifications of
Mental and Behavioral Disorders) which you can read on-line here. http://www.who.int/whosis/icd10/
Medical doctors are not informed clearly about the use and
abuse of cannabis. This is because cannabis research is illegal in most
countries or if research is allowed most of the results are suppressed.
The only way a medical doctor can help a person with a
cannabis problem is by having some experience with people who have
had cannabis problems in the past. There are no special books to turn
too. There are no references which explain clearly what to do or IF
cannabis is physically addictive. There are no pills for cannabis
addiction (there are for alcoholism).
The only place a doctor can go is to the archives of what other
countries have said about the drug and its abuse. As a doctor, one
would maybe try Holland and read up on some of the material there, or
Belgium or Switzerland. There can be found medical research papers
that relate to cannabis dependence and all of them say the same thing.
(A) Can it be abused? YES. (B) Can it be addictive? YES. (C) Is
cannabis abuse or use life threatening? NO, but mental side effects
such as depression can be, but only a small percentage of addicts (NOT
USERS, BUT ADDICTS) go through this. (D) Has anyone ever died of
cannabis use? ONLY 1 PERSON in the history of cannabis has died
from its use, but read on. Bruce Lee, the martial arts expert died after
taking cannabis, but the death certificate was later changed too 'death
by misadventure' because of another medical herb that he took which
he did not know he was allergic too. So the correct answer is 0 people have died from using cannabis. (E) How do you treat cannabis
addiction? Psychotherapy is the only answer.
In fact there are absolutely no reasons for the prohibition of
cannabis, other than:
1) It is hard to tell if someone is under the influence of cannabis.
Driving/working with machinery is a problem here.
2) People might smoke too much and become a little lazy.
3) Many governments have prohibited it for over 70 years and it would
seem very stupid if they told everyone that they where wrong about it.
Now let us look at these points for a moment.
1) Yes it is hard to tell and make no mistake - if you drive after
smoking cannabis then you are just as stupid as if you where driving
under the influence of alcohol. It is never advised to use cannabis and
then perform a procedure, like driving, which requires your total
attention. As of yet there is no on the spot breathalyzer test for
cannabis use, but there are tests to determine if someone has used
cannabis recently, in the last few hours, in the last few days, weeks or
months. However, alcohol is not banned in a lot of countries but
cannabis is.
2) It happens. Some people do smoke too much pot and they become
docile to the point where they just want to watch television and eat.
However, if there is no money about, and the person needs to survive
or live somehow, you will soon find that person can restore their life back to the way it was before they started their cannabis binge by
simply - Not smoking for a few days. A few days of not smoking is all
it takes to rid cannabis of any effects it has had on the human body.
There may be residual cannabinoids left in the system but this does not
pose any problems and will soon wear away.
This is not that easy with alcohol or heroin user. They will
have to go through a long period of detoxification before they can
resume a normal life. A cannabis user does not have to go through the
detoxification period because there simply is none. Not only does the
alcohol user have to spend a few days getting it out of his/her system
but they will also have to deal with the withdrawal symptoms. This can
last for months. With cannabis, it is simply, stop smoking cannabis
and resume operations as normal. (Note: Pharmaceutical firms would
love to sell a pill to cure cannabis addiction, but as of yet can not. They
can not prove that their pill does anything because there are no
cannabis withdrawal systems to observe. Thus the pill would be
deemed a fraudulent product if put on the market.) Also many
homeless people's living standards in most cases are attributed to
alcohol dependence/addiction and rarely, IF ever, is their low living
standard attributed to cannabis dependence. Cannabis dependence is
psychological. Treatment of cannabis addiction is done by psychiatrists
and psychologists and GP's. Heroin and alcohol is treated by
psychiatrists, psychologists, GP's and doctors of internal medicine for
the somatic systems of addiction.
3) This is a major problem because the government may have to set
people free from prison and radically change their justice department’s stance on cannabis which means that jobs will be lost and revenues
(billions of this - $$$) will be lost if cannabis was decriminalized.
Cannabis prohibition is a booming industry that creates jobs and
capital. However if cannabis was decriminalized then these lost profits
could be derived from a new cannabis industry.
Probably one of the best sites for medical information is www.cannabisx.com, www.lycaeum.org, or www.overgrow.com
One other thing to mention is that street cannabis may
contain other added drugs. In most clinical cases, a person who
complains about cannabis addiction and shows physical signs of
addiction is not actually addicted to cannabis. They are addicted to the
other drug substances that the supplier has added to his produce to
make it stronger. 100% home grown clean cannabis does not contain
physical additive properties. People who add other drugs to cannabis
are not doing the cannabis community a favor.

New Member

19 posts, Sep 2003

posted 01-21-2004 09:54 PM            

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Cannabis is a gift of nature. It is a tool to be used, as a friend or foe.

Hemp cloth, and the casual legal use of Marijuana would solve many monetary issues, as well as, take the edge off a world gone mad.

posts,

posted 01-21-2004 10:56 PM            

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Mabye he smoked that many all at once somehow?

mabye he was going for a record.

Too much of A LOT of things will kill you.

Stuff we use everyday can kill you.

Millions of Americans use flouride toothpaste...yet if you swallow a tablespoon of the stuff you will probably end up dead.

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Jersey City
159 posts, Jun 2001

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19 posts, Sep 2003

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Jersey City
159 posts, Jun 2001