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David
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1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 02-25-2001 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The U.K. is having a real problem with new animal health issues.
First the BSE thing in the cattle, now they are closing down farm after farm because of hoof and mouth in the swine population.
Does anyone else have a suspision that all of their problems are not a natural occurance??? It just seems too unlikley that all of this could happen so fast. Granted, they haven't been too smart in controlling the problem, but it seems that there is too much all at once.
The whole country is up in arms on the GM food issue and now all of a sudden all of these problems with the cattle, pigs and chickens. Makes me wonder if Saddam or someone else has not made some sort of delivery to the country. What beeter way to bring a country to its collective knees than to screw up the food supply.
Then there is the new deaths in India by something unknown. They are calling it a possible epidemic as the death toll reachs past 34.
Makes me wonder how much longer before we too are having similar problems.
Did the biological war we have all feared for so long come to pass and we have failed to see it.
One last item, did you know that N. Korea has asked the U.K. for all of its infected cattle so they can feed the starving millions?? And the U.K. is considering the request rather that incinerating the damn things.
What we do not need is another plague in Europe, which would quickly spread to the entire world.
If I were going to cause deaths by the millions, I would certainly go for the one commom thread amongst humans. We eat.

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 02-25-2001 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the scoop David. I wonder if the deaths in India are related to the strange green substance seen oozing out of a fissure caused by the recent earthquake(s)? If your report isn't a wake-up call to be a vegetarian, I don't know what is.

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Dull Shiney
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London
6 posts, Feb 2001

posted 02-28-2001 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dull Shiney   Visit Dull Shiney's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeh David, i'v been following the news about dodgy farm food aswell. It starts in one farm hundreds of miles away and finds it self spreading across the whole country within hours, the powers that be are now banning people from walking in the country side and also stopping the big horse races. I just don't hope that this virus does not go cross platform and start affecting humans like the so called CJD. Think i will take lulu's advise and stop eating meat for the time being.

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David
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1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 02-28-2001 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dull Shiney,
Yes I agree,it would be terrible if it did cross over. Has there been any new developments on this, has it slowed down?? Any clues as to how it can spread so fast?

I think Lulu's advise is first rate, I haven't looked at a piece of meat quite the same way since the outbread of BSE.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-02-2001 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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David
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1290 posts, Oct 2000

posted 03-02-2001 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Thermit, the map sure puts this into perspective. This problem has the potential to infect the rest of the world if is not stemmed there.
With all of the out breaks in other places and the fast onset in Britain, makes me wonder if this is not the result of terrorisim.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 03-02-2001 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this is caused by human stupidity.
Feeding cows with ground up cows, now that's a smart idea.
Repercussions of ignorance and short-sighted thinking, not intentional...

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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


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1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 03-02-2001 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just heard something in the news about how lots of pet food (dog/cats) is made from diseased/dead animals, including dogs & cats!
If the label says 'animal by-products' or any kind of 'by-products', don't buy it because you may be killing your pet so someone has a nice spreadsheet.

It seems that the bean-counters of the corporate world will do anything to make a profit, animals and humans all suffer because of the greed.

Whatever happened to our EPA, FDA et al. Have they all been compromised by corrupt/illegal campaign financing. Maybe the rot has spread from the top down.

What's next, Soylent Green?



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Dull Shiney
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London
6 posts, Feb 2001

posted 03-05-2001 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dull Shiney   Visit Dull Shiney's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everything you hear is completely true, the pet food is all the parts of the cow, sheep and whatever other animal is availble. BSE was started cause of farm animals being fed dead sheep that had the disease scabies.
When was the last time you seen a cow grazing in the grass in Britain. Authorities knew this was going on but to them it's all about the money, so what did they do with all the beef they could not sell? did they they burn it all? hell no, they send it to 3rd world countries(for profit) and sold it off to pet food factorys, all of a sudden there were loads of pet food adverts on TV saying how healthy your dog could LOOK(not be). The situation here now in UK is that there are 21 cases of Foot&Mouth every 24 hours, worst than the 1967 case, now it has spread across Europe...France, belgium and other places. So it looks like this will be around for a while.

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Dick Eastman
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Yakima, Washington, USA
33 posts, Feb 2001

posted 03-11-2001 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dick Eastman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sending the bad meat to North Korea?

Then it immediately occurs to me that
the entire scare is disinformation in
order to get Europeans to agree to
sending their entire crop of protein
meat to North Korea -- the clandestine
bribe for N. Korea to stop aiming nukes
and biologicals at other countries or
invading the South. Yes, I STRONGLY
suspect this and wonder, if it is true,
if GWB knows about it yet.

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Dick Eastman
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Yakima, Washington, USA
33 posts, Feb 2001

posted 03-11-2001 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dick Eastman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an important story to tell you:

Hoofing It to North Korea; Britains tricked into
giving meat crop to North Korea


The subject of this thread has led me to post this,
to me, startling example of current "PsychWarfare"
and Establishment-style geoeconomic self-advantaging.

Forgive me for not taking the time to remove all of
the quotation indicators. This just went to several
newsgroups in the UK.

Dear Socrates (not real name):

Funny you should mention thought control, Soc.
Here is a piece I wrote that contains a description
of what happened to me just yesterday (3/10)
I include the entire ng post in which it occured-- for
context and because the hoof-and-mouth scam
is something you can help expose.

I was writing on my suspicion that the entire
hoof-and-mouth scare may be a clever way
of globalist wirepullers to manipulate Britains
into consenting to ship all of their protein crop
to North Korea, as part of some secret bribe
(or extorted payoff) to the rogue state or, even,
some Blair-ite communist treason in the tradition
of "China Bill" ... when it happened.

It was another clearcut case of intrusive monitoring
and "mindmessing" of a populist newsgroup
poster, the second in my experience, and most
revealing.

Read the post, below, and learn what I am
talking about.
Dick

From: "Dick Eastman"
Newsgroups:
cna.agriculture.foreign,alt.politics.democrats.governors,alt.republican,alt.
sci.econ.underground
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2001 3:56 AM
Subject: Starvation Warfare: Trick your enemy into destroying his own food
supply.


> The protein supply plagues have spread too rapidly
> in Europe, too unprecedently, to systematically, too
> easily. And the government response has been too
> undebated, too uniform, too establishment driven.
>
> And now condemed British meat is to be shipped
> to North Korea.
>
> -----
> Consider these words of a General of the People's
> Liberation Army:
>
> "After the Gulf War...a new military revolution
> emerged ... essentially a transformation from the
> mechanized warfare of the industrial age to
> (information warfare) ...a war of decisions and
> control ...of knowledge...and a war of intellect.
> The aim of war (has changed) from preserving
> oneself and wiping out the enemy to preserving
> oneself and controlling
> the opponent. Information warfare includes electronic
> warfare, tactical deception, strategic deterrence,
> propaganda, and economic sabotage... ...
> (The) all conquering stratagems of Sun Tzu more
> than two millennia ago--"vanquishing the enemy
> without fighting" and "subduing the enemy by ...soft
> destruction...(can) finally be realized."
> --From the dedication speech at
> the Jiefangjun Bao (PLA) Military
> Research Center,
> (quoted by John Carlin, "Wired" magazine,
> May 1997 issue)
>
> And these words of Lenin:
> "The highest art of war is to avoid military
> engagements altogether and defeat the enemy
> by destroying his moral principles, his religion, his
> culture and his traditions. When a country
> has been demoralized in that way
> it can be taken over without a single shot
> being fired."
>
> Here is Sun Tsu (c. 350 B.C.E.), the
> Patron Saint and Clauzwitz (i.e., great
tradition-establishing military theorist)
of the Jiefangjun Bao :
>
> "Undermine everything that serves the life
> of your opponent. Undermine his respectibility
> and at the right moment expose him to public
> disgrace. Enlist the help of the meanest and
> most abominable persons. Spread strife
> and discord among the citizens of the enemy
> country. Goad young people against their
> elders. Disrupt the activities of the government
> by all means possible.
> Hold all your enemy's traditions and gods in
> contempt. Send loose women among
> them to complete the work of destruction ..."

> And finally this gem:
>
> "We have gone beyond Sun Tsu."
> -Mao Tse-tung
>
> It is not widely publicised that the Peoples
> Liberation Army, in addition to the
> Panama Canal, also controls the much more
> important Chicago commodities exchanges.
> The control is so powerful that criticism is
> not permitted.
>
> And, if Clandestine Weather Modification is
> taking place (I recently had my doubts, but
> the ludicrously inept and disingenuous attempts
> by mainstream propaganda organs (USA Today)
> and the discovery that the annonymous hecklers
> who poisoned my clandestine weather modification
> ezboard reference archive was high-up establishment
> science bureaucrat -- real men of science conceal
> nothing and always put their personal integrity on
> the line when they make declarations in their field -
> this guy was a bum and he completely misrepresented
> me and many other ordinary inquiring citizens as vicious
> and moronic -- in short he is not a scientist at all,
> but a hired mouthpiece heckler and a liar. I am ready
> to review the matter with him on any web forum, should
> he so choose.) -- At any rate, as I was saying, if
> CWM is real, and if, as it must, it uses the super
> computers of the National ScienceFoundation and the
> EOS data collection, then the PLA is is very likely deeply
> involved in this food-supply affecting undertaking, because
> only they get the real-time raw algoithim data unavailable to
> most U.S. meteorology researchers (the latter who get only
> secondary generated summaries and pre-interpreted
> colored maps, pre-processed interpretations generated by
> built-in data analysis software -- rather than a feed of
> raw data on which state-of-the-art signal analysis
> can be crunched out.
>
> Add to that, this:
>
> As I was copying a series of quotes on my Word Perfect
> 2000, I opened the font menu box -- and in the place
> where the name of the font selected normally appears,
> e.g., "Times New Roman," one of the quotes I had
> moments ago copied (the Mao quote, above)
> was sitting there -- where it couldn't possibly have
> gotten by any stream of accidents --it was one quote
> somehow selected and lifted out of the continuous
> stream of quotes I was hand typing from books
> to keyboard to a single fresh previously unmodified
> WordPerfect new document page -- with no excursions
> to any other software. (In other words this one
> quote from Mao was lifted out of a list of quotes and
> inserted in the place where the name of the font I was
> sing should have been -- when there had been no
> recourse to fonts that day -- and no other intervening
> operations performed by me to leave even the most
> tenuous room for an appeal to inadvertancy.

> So, from lifted from the middle of an unbroken
> (continuous) run of copying
> from books to keyboard to text before subsequently
> going to the font box to find an accent mark, there
> was staring me in the face--"How in the hell...?" -- I
> was the Mao quote,
>
> "We have gone beyond Sun Tsu."
> -Mao Tse-tung
>
> There is no way that that quotation could have
> been lifted from the middle of a page where
> I had been copying from a books -- and get
> on the Corel Software window for font selection.
>
> I went back to the text of quotations and wrote:
>
> "An easy trick when you have all that money
> behind you. You don't live up to the standards
> of Mao, or was Mao merely a stooge of the
> Western banking interests like Zhou Enlai?"
>
>Then I went back to tools and the font choice,
> and sure enough the Mao quote had been replaced
> by this quotation of my own words (again lifted
> from the middle of the stream of my continuous
> typing :
>
> "You don't live up to the standards of Mao."
>
> Then I returned to the text and wrote asking
> who the real alientated man between us is,
> who is the real "non-solution destructive guy?"

And when I went back to the Wordperfect
Font window and looked at where the two
previous anomalies had appeared, there was
the message:

> "New Times Roman"

> So I went back to what I had been doing,
> deciding I do not really need an accent
> mark for Klaus Dieter Vaque's last name
> after all.

> I will not jump to the conclusion that "A Maoist
> did this." But certainly someone is bored and
> or playful with intrusive/invasive powers that
> nice people wouldn't be weilding. (He may
> have picked the Mao quote as the best choice
> for shaking me up, rather than from conviction.)
>
> In all, it was a most encouraging sign. They pretend
> these newsgroup messages are insignificant and beneith
> noticing. But now we know that that is just a
> demoralization tactic, don't we?
>
>
> And here is the ancient Chinese quote that I would
> send back to my "monitor" and to all you who
> read posts from this video-store clerk in
> Yakima:
>
> "The purpose of human benevolence is to be found in
> procuring benefits for the world and eliminating its
> calamities." --Mo Ti
>
> Do you really want to dedicate your life (and that
> of your children and grandchildren) to kissing the
> asses of princelings and investment bankers?
> Few fights in history have been more worth
> the effort than this one. It always too soon to
> quit.
>
> And to Britain's I say this: Don't let anyone destroy
> the evidence generated by the "mad cow" and the
> "hoof and mouth" crises as they run their courses. There is a
> crime going on here -- and maybe an act of undelcared
> war.
>
> And it may be time to kick out from office
> anyone who even looks like The Royal Institute
> of Foreign Affairs. (That pool of well-placed
> stooges -- the British equivalent of the
> Council on Foreign Relations in the U.S.)
> --who serve the interests of the City's merchant
> banking houses as they run Britain, as the latter
> serves Chase, Morgan and so forth.
>
> At least that is the way it looks to me from
> Yakima this morning.
>
> Dick Eastman
> Yakima
> U.S.A.
> Every man is responsible to every other man.
> ----
"Footnote" (quoted):
> Foot and mouth should not be a crisis. We have all been misled by the men
> from the ministry
>
> By Geoffrey Lean
>
> 4 March 2001
>
> This weekend - as funeral pyres light up the night sky and barriers go up
> all over Britain's broad acres - farming and the countryside face their
> biggest crisis, and their greatest opportunity, since the Second World
War.
>
> Yet - despite the draconian measures - foot and mouth is a mild disease,
> from which animals recover naturally and quickly. It has only been turned
> into a disaster by the heedless intensification of agriculture over the
past
> 50 years.
>
> By today - after confirmation of three new cases, one in Devon and two in
> Tyne and Wear - 56 herds had caught the disease. > style="background-color:#FFFF00">Yesterday saw the largest rise in cases
in
> a single day, with 45,000 cows, sheep and pigs had been slaughtered to try
> to stop it spreading. And Britain had a Keep Out countryside. Every
footpath
> in every national park is closed, as are all but 20 of the National
Trust's
> properties, and all two-and-a-half million acres of the Forestry
> Commission's land.
>
> Fixtures from the Wales v Ireland rugby match to Crufts have been
cancelled.
> The farming industry, already on its knees, is staring into the abyss and
> neighbouring nations wait - with fear and fury mixed - to see how they
will
> be affected. The crisis has severely shaken Tony Blair, and, as senior
> ministers confirmed yesterday, forced him to abandon his plans to announce
> the General Election for 5 April immediately after Wednesday's Budget.
>
> The disease's escalating effects, the draconian control measures and the
> unanimously sombre tone of commentators, all suggest that the country must
> be facing a devastating killer plague.
>
> But we aren't. Foot and mouth
disease
> only very rarely affects people, and even then only raises a slight
> temperature and a few blisters. It doesn't even kill animals.
>
> As the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (MAFF) itself admits,
the
> sheep, pigs and cows being slaughtered and burned would shake it off in
two
> or three weeks if they were allowed to live. Vets say that it is no more
> serious for animals than a bad cold for humans.

>
> Instead, it is an economic disease. When animals are sick they produce
less
> milk, and put on less meat. MAFF asserts that cows also milk less well
when
> they recover, though late last week could produce no scientific evidence
to
> prove it.
>
> Yet MAFF steadfastly refuses to
> countenance any relaxation of its zero tolerance policy. This contrasts
> sharply with the enormous tolerance it showed BSE, allowing hundreds of
> thousands of diseased animals into the food chain and permitting
controls -
> when introduced - to be poorly enforced and widely flouted.

>
> Yet BSE really is a terrifying plague which has killed 80 people, slowly
and
> horrifically, and will do the same to thousands, maybe hundreds of
> thousands, more over coming decades.
>
> MAFF's reaction to the two diseases shows where its priorities lie. It
cares
> little for human health. It is not even particularly bothered about sick
> animals. What gets it exercised, and spurs it to emergency action, is a
> threat to the profitability of agribusiness.
>
> In a sane world, the economic losses caused by this mild disease would not
> matter much: farmers would accept and adjust to them, as to the
fluctuations
> of their harvests. But the crazy overintensification of agriculture, with
> margins pared to the bone to produce cheap food against foreign
competition,
> means it simply cannot afford them.
>
> Britain pioneered the
intensification
> on this side of the Atlantic. No European country has pursued it so
> relentlessly, or has so ruthlessly driven small farmers to the wall to
> benefit richer ones: more than 330,000 farms - two-thirds of the total -
> have been forced out of business since 1945.

>
> Abigail Woods - a vet who is researching the history of foot and mouth at
> Manchester University, financed by the Wellcome Trust - adds that it was
> Britain, too, that pioneered the zero tolerance policy to foot and mouth,
> originally to protect a few wealthy stockbreeders, and was the first
country
> to ban imports from countries with the disease.
>
> Now, hoist with its own petard, MAFF has no alternative but to continue
the
> slaughter to stop British meat being excluded from export markets that
have
> followed our lead. Intensification may not be to blame for the outbreak of
> the disease, but it has turned it into a crisis affecting the highest in
the
> land.
>
> Mr Blair - who on Tuesday makes his second green speech in less than six
> months after more than three years of silence - told a private Downing
> Street meeting of environmentalists and businessmen on Thursday that the
> floods, the collapse of agriculture and the latest scientific predictions
on
> the effects of global warming (reported in the Independent on Sunday last
> month) showed we were now reaping the harvest of past neglect.
>
> All this may be providing a catalyst for change. Tony Blair has called for
a
> national debate on the future of agriculture. Ministers accept that
policies
> of the past decades have failed and are cautiously moving towards a
radical
> shift - from intensifying agriculture to preserving the environment as the
> basis of sound farming.
>
> They want to switch the bulk of the massive subsidies given to agriculture
> from intensifying production to conserving and managing the countryside.
And
> they say that the foot and mouth emergency is speeding up the process.
>
> They face two obstacles. The first is the European Union, which, led by
> France and Germany, has resisted change. But Germany appointed a new Green
> agriculture minister in the crisis that followed the discovery of BSE in
the
> country. She has indicated that Germany will join the campaign for reform.
> If it does, ministers believe they could muster the votes to push it
> through.
>
> The second, much more formidable obstacle is MAFF, which is responsible
for
> the mess in the first place and has lost none of its conservatism or
> obscurantism.
>
> It must be allowed to obstruct no more. When the last glows of the burnt
> carcasses have died away, ministers must build one more pyre - for MAFF
> itself, and the whole misguided set of entrenched interests it represents.
>
> 56 cases confirmed in the plague that never was
> .........
> New York banker, James Paul Warburg,
> before a Senate committee hearing,
> February 19, 1950, in the midst of that
> brief spurt of popular anti-internationalist
> resistance known as the McCarthy era:
>
> "We are going to have a world
> government, whether you like it
> or not--by force or by consent."
>
>
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> Click Here: The New
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>
... On the increasing role of
> corporate/military/government control and
> molding of mainstream science ..
> And thus pointing out the real need for
> genuine independent research efforts.
>
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