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Detention Act of 1950 \ "Security Portfolio"- authorized facility


FEMA detention facility / may be disguised as closed hospital or nursing home.


REX 84 program facility


Federal Death Facility / Crematoria


Likely deportation point / overseas detention









Gulag Amerika State - by - State Index
CONCENTRATION CAMPS IN AMERICA
The following list is not complete, in spite of the extensive research put into it, and the attempts to verify the information that was available. These sites are alleged to exist, and certain considerations had to be taken in order to make this list:
Many locations are verified by William Pabst's research and testimony of Provost Marshal, US 5th Army HQ, Pentagon; and Mr. Fennerin, 300th Army MP - POW Command, Livonia Mich.
Some locations are not verifiable due to restricted access; these are believed to exist by virtue of their locality (e.g.: military reservation);
Some locations were established by numerous citations from multiple sources
Some locations were verified by physical reconnaissance and photographic evidence
Some locations were verified by personal testimony from dependable, trustworthy authorities
Some locations were visited by means not known to the author or the primary source but established through independent testimonies
Some sites are listed by virtue of their status as a WWII internment camp or present-day penal facility and do not necessarily resemble a "concentration camp" to the casual observer.
Some internment sites are not developed beyond a rudimentary fence-and-barbwire enclosure due to the fact that many such concentration camps will be further developed using inmate labor. An enclosure used to hold 500 will become the foundation for the construction of additional enclosures holding thousands.


NOTE: There are certain controversial sites that have been cited and refuted, and confirmed again. They are included here for academic purposes. Certain individuals have been able to get a "guided tour" of such a facility, the Amtrak rail yards just outside Indianapolis complete with an explanation of its' planned purpose. These individuals took hidden video of the facility which was seen by this author, a former railroad employee. For this reason it is included as a credible site.







ALABAMA
Opelika - WWII German/Italian camp - may be renovated.
Aliceville - WWII German POW camp - capacity 15,000
Ft. McClellan (Anniston) - Opposite side of town from Army Depot;
Maxwell AFB (Montgomery) - Civilian prison camp established under
Operation Garden Plot, currently operating with support staff and small inmate population.
Talladega - Federal prison "satellite" camp.


ALASKA
Wilderness - East of Anchorage. No roads, Air & Railroad access only. Estimated capacity of 500,000
Elmendorf AFB - Northeast area of Anchorage - far end of base. Garden
Plot facility.
Eielson AFB - Southeast of Fairbanks. Operation Garden Plot facility.
Ft. Wainwright - East of Fairbanks


ARIZONA
Ft. Huachuca - 20 miles from Mexican border, 30 miles from Nogales.
Rex '84 facility.
Pinal County - on the Gila River - WWII Japanese detention camp. May be renovated.
Yuma County - Colorado River - Japanese detention camp (near proving grounds).
Phoenix - Federal Prison Satellite Camp
Florence - WWII prison camp NOW RENOVATED, OPERATIONAL with
staff & 400 prisoners, operational capacity of 3,500.
Wickenburg - Airport is ready for conversion; total capacity unknown.
Davis-Monthan AFB (Tucson) - Fully staffed and presently holding
prisoners!!


ARKANSAS
Ft. Chaffee (near Fort Smith, Arkansas) - Has new runway for aircraft, new camp facility with cap of 40,000 prisoners
Pine Bluff Arsenal - This location also is the repository for B-Z nerve agent, which causes sleepiness, dizziness, stupor; admitted use is for civilian control.
Jerome - Chicot/Drew Counties - WWII Japanese camps
Rohwer - Descha County - WWII Japanese camps
Blythville AFB - Closed airbase now being used as camp. New wooden barracks have been constructed at this location. Classic decorations - guard towers, barbed wire, high fences.
Berryville - FEMA facility located east of Eureka Springs off Hwy. 62.
Omaha - Northeast of Berryville near Missouri state line, on Hwy 65 south of old wood processing plant. Located on or near toxic waste dump. FEMA facility.


CALIFORNIA
Vandenburg AFB - Rex 84 facility, located near Lompoc & Santa Maria. Internment facility is located near the oceanside, close to Space Launch Complex #6, also called "Slick Six". The launch site has a flawless failure record and is rarely used.
Norton AFB - (closed base) now staffed with UN according to some sources.
Tule Lake - area of "wildlife refuge", accessible by unpaved road, just inside Modoc County.
Fort Ord - Closed in 1994, this facility is now an urban warfare training center for US and foreign troops, and may have some "P.O.W. - C.I." enclosures.
Twentynine Palms Marine Base - Birthplace of the infamous "Would you shoot American citizens?" Quiz. New camps being built on "back 40".
Oakdale - Rex 84 camp capable of holding at least 20,000 people. 90 mi. East of San Francisco.
Terminal Island - (Long Beach) located next to naval shipyards operated by ChiCom shipping interests. Federal prison facility located here. Possible deportation point.
Ft. Irwin - FEMA facility near Barstow. Base is designated inactive but has staffed camp.
Manzanar - Inyo County WWII Japanese detention camp. Ready for possible renovation.
McClellan AFB - facility equipped for 30,000 - 35,000
Sacramento - Army Depot - No specific information at this time.
Mather AFB - Road to facility is blocked off by cement barriers and a stop sign. Sign states area is restricted; as of 1997 there were barbed wire fences pointing inward, a row of stadium lights pointed toward an empty field, etc. Black boxes on poles may have been cameras.


COLORADO
Trinidad - WWII German/Italian camp being renovated.
Granada - Prowers County - WWII Japanese internment camp
Ft. Carson - Along route 115 near Canon City


CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE
No data available.


FLORIDA
Avon Park - Air Force gunnery range, Avon Park has an on-base "correctional facility" which was a former WWII detention camp.
Camp Krome - DoJ detention/interrogation center, Rex 84 facility
Eglin AFB - This base is over 30 miles long, from Pensacola to Hwy 331 in De Funiak Springs. High capacity facility, presently manned and populated with some prisoners.
Pensacola - Federal Prison Camp
Everglades - It is believed that a facility may be carved out of the wilds here.


GEORGIA
Ft. Benning - Located east of Columbus near Alabama state line. Rex 84 site - Prisoners brought in via Lawson Army airfield.
Ft. Mc Pherson - US Force Command - Multiple reports that this will be the national headquarters and coordinating center for foreign/UN troop movement and detainee collection.
Ft. Gordon - West of Augusta - No information at this time.
Unadilla - Dooly County - Manned, staffed FEMA prison on route 230, no prisoners.
Oglethorpe - Macon County; facility is located five miles from Montezuma, three miles from Oglethorpe. This FEMA prison has no staff and no prisoners.
Morgan - Calhoun County, FEMA facility is fully manned & staffed - no prisoners.
Camilla - Mitchell County, south of Albany. This FEMA facility is located on Mt. Zion Rd approximately 5.7 miles south of Camilla. Unmanned - no prisoners, no staff.
Hawkinsville - Wilcox County; Five miles east of town, fully manned and staffed but no prisoners. Located on fire road 100/Upper River Road
Abbeville - South of Hawkinsville on US route 129; south of town off route 280 near Ocmulgee River. FEMA facility is staffed but without prisoners.
McRae - Telfair County - 1.5 miles west of McRae on Hwy 134 (8th St). Facility is on Irwinton Avenue off 8th St., manned & staffed - no prisoners.


HAWAII
Unknown - There are several military installations on Honolulu that could be equipped for detention. More data is needed.


IDAHO
Minidoka/Jerome Counties - WWII Japanese-American internment facility possibly under renovation.
Clearwater National Forest - Near Lolo Pass - Just miles from the Montana state line near Moose Creek, this unmanned facility is reported to have a nearby airfield.
Wilderness areas - Possible location. No data.


ILLINOIS
Marseilles - Located on the Illinois River off Interstate 80 on Hwy 6. It is a relatively small facility with a cap of 1400 prisoners. Though it is small it is designed like other concentration camp facilities high fences topped with barbed wire and guard towers. Being located on the Illinois River it is possible that prisoners will be brought in by water as well as by road and air. This facility is approximately 75 miles west of Chicago. National Guard training area nearby.
Pekin - This Federal satellite prison camp is also on the Illinois River, just south of Peoria. It supplements the federal penitentiary in Marion, which is equipped to handle additional population outside on the grounds.
Chanute AFB - Rantoul, near Champaign/Urbana - This closed base had WWII - era barracks that were condemned and torn down, but the medical facility was upgraded and additional fencing put up in the area. This base was closed on the recommendation of former Soviet premier Mikhail Gorbachev, but not sold, which makes this location a likely camp. Air Force personnel still maintain and occasionally use the airstrip, which is capable of handling large cargo planes like C-130's.
Marion - Federal Penitentiary and satellite prison camp inside Crab Orchard Nat'l Wildlife Refuge. Manned, staffed, populated fully.
Greenfield - Two federal correctional "satellite prison camps" serving Marion - populated as above.
Shawnee National Forest - Pope County - This area has seen heavy traffic of foreign military equipment and troops via Illinois Central Railroad, which runs through the area. Suspected location is unknown, but may be close to Vienna and Shawnee correctional centers, located 6 mi. west of Dixon Springs.
Savanna Army Depot - NW area of state on Mississippi River.
Lincoln, Sheridan, Menard, Pontiac, Galesburg - State prison facilities equipped for major expansion and close or adjacent to highways & railroad tracks.


INDIANA
Indianapolis / Marion County - Amtrak railcar repair facility (closed); controversial site of a major alleged detention / processing center. Although some sources state that this site is a "red herring", photographic and video evidence suggests otherwise. This large facility contains large 3-4 inch gas mains to large furnaces (crematoria??), helicopter landing pads, railheads for prisoners, Red/Blue/Green zones for classifying/processing incoming personnel, one-way turnstiles, barracks, towers, high fences with razor wire, etc. Personnel with government clearance who are friendly to the patriot movement took a guided tour of the facility to confirm this site. This site is located next to a closed refrigeration plant facility.
Ft. Benjamin Harrison - Located in the northeast part of Indianapolis, this facility has had numerous personnel reductions. Portions of the facility are ideally converted to hold detainees. Helicopter facilities exist on-base for prisoners to be brought in by air, land & rail.
Crown Point - Across street from county jail, former hospital. One wing presently being used for county work-release program, 80% of facility still unused. Possible FEMA detention center or holding facility.
Camp Atterbury - Closed facility is being converted to hold prisoners of the New World Order. Located just west of Interstate 65 near Edinburg, south of Indianapolis.
Terre Haute - Federal Correctional Institution, Satellite prison camp and death facility. Equipped with crematoria reported to have a capacity of 3,000 people a day. FEMA detention facility located here.
Fort Wayne - This city located in Northeast Indiana has a FEMA detention facility, accessible by air, road and nearby rail.
Kingsbury - This "closed" military base is adjacent to a state fish & wildlife preserve. Part of the base is converted to an industrial park, but the southern portion of this property is still used by the military. It is bordered on the south by railroad, and is staffed with some foreign-speaking UN troops. A local police officer who was hunting and camping close to the base in the game preserve was accosted, roughed up, and warned by the English-speaking unit commander to stay away from the area. It was suggested to the officer that the welfare of his family would depend on his "silence". Located just southeast of LaPorte.
Jasper-Pulaski Wildlife Area - Youth Corrections farm located here. Facility is "closed", but is still staffed and being "renovated". Total capacity unknown.
Grissom AFB - This closed airbase still handles a lot of traffic, and has a "state-owned" prison compound on the southern part of the facility. UNICOR.
Jefferson Proving Grounds - Southern Indiana - This facility is an active base with test firing occuring daily. Portions of the base have been opened to create an industrial park, but other areas are still highly restricted. A camp is believed to be located "downrange". Facility is equipped with an airfield and has a nearby rail line.


IOWA
No data available.


KANSAS
Leavenworth - US Marshal's Fed Holding Facility, US Penitentiary, Federal Prison Camp, McConnell Air Force Base. Federal death penalty facility.
Concordia - WWII German POW camp ready for renovation.
Ft. Riley - Just north of Interstate 70, airport, near city of Manhattan.
El Dorado - Federal prison converted into forced-labor camp, UNICOR industries.
Topeka - 80 acres has been converted into a temporary holding camp.
Smokey Hill Air Nat'l Guard Range - near Salina - plenty of room for dissidents.


KENTUCKY
Ashland - Federal prison camp in Eastern Kentucky near the Ohio River.
Louisville - FEMA detention facility, located near restricted area US naval ordnance plant. Military airfield located at facility, which is on south side of city.
Lexington - FEMA detention facility, National Guard base with adjacent airport facility.
Manchester - Federal prison camp located inside Dan Boone National Forest.
Ft. Knox - Detention center, possibly located near Salt River, in restricted area of base. Local patriots advise that black Special Forces & UN gray helicopters are occasionally seen in area.
Land Between the Lakes - This area was declared a UN biosphere and is an ideal geographic location for detention facilities. Area is an isthmus extending out from Tennessee, between Lake Barkley on the east and Kentucky Lake on the west. Just scant miles from Fort Campbell in Tennessee.


LOUISIANA
Ft. Polk - This is a main base for UN troops & personnel, and a training center for the disarmament of America.
Livingston - WWII German/Italian internment camp being renovated?; halfway between Baton Rouge and Hammond, several miles north of Interstate 12.
Oakdale - Located on US route 165 about 50 miles south of Alexandria; two federal detention centers just southeast of Fort Polk.


MAINE
Houlton - WWII German internment camp in Northern Maine, off US Route 1.


MARYLAND, and DC
Ft. Meade - Halfway between the District of Criminals and Baltimore. Data needed.
Ft. Detrick - Biological warfare center for the NWO, located in Frederick.


MASSACHUSETTS
Camp Edwards / Otis AFB - Cape Cod - This "inactive" base is being converted to hold many New Englander patriots. Capacity unknown.


MICHIGAN
Camp Grayling - Michigan Nat'l Guard base has several confirmed detention camps, classic setup with high fences, razor wire, etc. Guard towers are very well-built, sturdy. Multiple compounds within larger enclosures. Facility deep within forest area.
Sawyer AFB - Upper Peninsula - south of Marquette - No data available.
Bay City - Classic enclosure with guard towers, high fence, and close to shipping port on Saginaw Bay, which connects to Lake Huron. Could be a deportation point to overseas via St. Lawrence Seaway.
Southwest - possibly Berrien County - FEMA detention center.
Lansing - FEMA detention facility.


MINNESOTA
Duluth - Federal prison camp facility.


MISSISSIPPI
Hancock County - NASA test site - Two camps; the first at the end of Kiln Rd. near Waveland, and the next after the ammo road by the post office. ---Another camp, alleged to exist by inmates from the Hancock County jail, is supposed to be just off the Interstate behind the rest stop, and presently populated with European internees. Inmates claim a great many things, and this is one "site" that could be positively refuted.
De Soto National Forest - endangered species area - Video footage of a secret UN field base was taken at this location, complete with foreign military vehicles and troops, and certainly must be a location for a detention camp. Area is restricted and these troops are no doubt armed. If any person investigates this area it is at extreme risk to their selves.


MISSOURI
Richards-Gebaur AFB - located in Grandview, near K.C.MO. A very large internment facility has been built on this base, and all base personnel are restricted from coming near it.
Ft. Leonard Wood - Situated in the middle of Mark Twain National Forest in Pulaski County. This site has been known for some UN training, also home to the US Army Urban Warfare Training school "Stem Village".


MONTANA
Malmstrom AFB - UN combat groups stationed here, and possibly a detention facility.


NEBRASKA
Scottsbluff - WWII German POW camp (renovated?).
Northwest, Northeast corners of state - FEMA detention facilities - more data needed.
South Central part of state - Many old WWII sites - some may be renovated.


NEVADA
Elko - Ten miles south of town.
Wells - Camp is located in the O'Niel basin area, 40 miles north of Wells, past Thousand Springs, west off Hwy 93 for 25 miles.
Pershing County - Camp is located at I-80 mile marker 112, south side of the highway, about a mile back on the county road and then just off the road about 3/4mi.
Winnemucca - Battle Mountain area - at the base of the mountains.
Nellis Air Force Range - Northwest from Las Vegas on Route 95. Nellis AFB is just north of Las Vegas on Hwy 604.
Stillwater Naval Air Station - east of Reno . No additional data.


NEW HAMPSHIRE / VERMONT
Northern Vermont - near Lake Francis - (Renovated?) WWII detention camp.


NEW JERSEY
Ft. Dix / McGuire AFB - Possible deportation point for detainees. Lots of pictures taken of detention compounds and posted on Internet, this camp is well-known. Facility is now complete and ready for occupancy.


NEW MEXICO
Ft. Bliss - This base actually straddles Texas state line. Just south of Alomogordo, Ft. Bliss has thousands of acres for people who refuse to go with the "New Order".
Holloman AFB (Alomogordo)- Home of the German Luftwaffe in Amerika; major UN base.


NEW YORK
Ft. Drum - two compounds: Rex 84 detention camp and FEMA detention facility.
Albany - FEMA detention facility.
Otisville - Federal correctional facility, near Middletown.
Buffalo - FEMA detention facility.


NORTH CAROLINA
Camp Lejeune / New River Marine Airfield - facility has renovated, occupied WWII detention compounds and "mock city" that closely resembles Anytown, USA.
Fort Bragg - Special Warfare Training Center. Renovated WWII detention facility.
Andrews - Federal experiment in putting a small town under siege. Began with the search/ hunt for survivalist Eric Rudolph. No persons are allowed in or out of town without federal permission. Travel through town is highly restricted. Most residents are compelled to stay in their homes. Unregistered Baptist pastor from Indiana visiting Andrews affirmed these facts.


NORTH DAKOTA
Minot AFB - Home of UN air group. More data needed on facility.


OHIO
Cincinnati, Cleveland, Columbus - FEMA detention facilities. Additional data needed.
Lima - FEMA detention facility. Another facility located in/near old stone quarry near Interstate 75. Railroad access to property, fences etc.


OKLAHOMA
Tinker AFB (OKC) - All base personnel are prohibited from going near civilian detention area, which is under constant guard.
Will Rogers World Airport - FEMA's main processing center for west of the Mississippi. All personnel are kept out of the security zone. Federal prisoner transfer center located here (A pentagon-shaped building where airplanes can taxi up to). Photos have been taken and this site will try to post soon!
El Reno - Renovated federal internment facility with CURRENT population of 12,000 on Route 66.
McAlester - near Army Munitions Plant property - former WWII German / Italian POW camp designated for future use.
Ft. Sill (Lawton) - Former WWII detention camps. More data still needed.


OREGON
Sheridan - Federal prison satellite camp northwest of Salem.
Josephine County - WWII Japanese internment camp ready for renovation.


PENNSYLVANIA
Allenwood - Federal prison camp located south of Williamsport on the Susquehanna River. It has a current inmate population of 300, and is identified by William Pabst as having a capacity in excess of 15,000 on 400 acres.
Indiantown Gap Military Reservation - located north of Harrisburg. Used for WWII POW camp and renovated by Jimmy Carter. Was used to hold Cubans during Mariel boat lift.
Camp Hill - State prison close to Army depot. Lots of room, located in Camp Hill, Pa.
New Cumberland Army Depot - on the Susquehanna River, located off Interstate 83 and Interstate 76.
Schuylkill Haven - Federal prison camp, north of Reading.


SOUTH CAROLINA
Greenville - Unoccupied youth prison camp; total capacity unknown.
Charleston - Naval Reserve & Air Force base, restricted area on naval base.


SOUTH DAKOTA
Yankton - Federal prison camp
Black Hills Nat'l Forest - north of Edgemont, southwest part of state. WWII internment camp being renovated.


TENNESSEE
Ft. Campbell - Next to Land Between the Lakes; adjacent to airfield and US Alt. 41.
Millington - Federal prison camp next door to Memphis Naval Air Station.
Crossville - WWII German / Italian prison camp may be renovated.


TEXAS
Austin - Municipal airport has a restricted-access area off limits to everyone.
Ft. Hood (Killeen) - Newly built concentration camp, with towers, barbed wire etc., just like the one featured in the movie Amerika. Mock city for NWO shock- force training. Some footage of this area was used in "Waco: A New Revelation"
Reese AFB (Lubbock) - FEMA detention facility.
Sheppard AFB - in Wichita Falls just south of Ft. Sill, OK. FEMA detention facility.
North Dallas - near Carrolton - water treatment plant, close to interstate and railroad.
Mexia - East of Waco 33mi.; WWII German facility may be renovated.
Amarillo - FEMA detention facility


UTAH
Millard County - Central Utah - WWII Japanese camp. (Renovated?)
Ft. Douglas - This "inactive" military reservation has a renovated WWII concentration camp.
Migratory Bird Refuge - West of Brigham City - contains a WWII internment camp that was built before the game preserve was established.
Cedar City - east of city - no data available.
Wendover - WWII internment camp may be renovated.
Skull Valley - southwestern Camp William property - east of the old bombing range. Camp was accidentally discovered by a man and his son who were rabbit hunting; they were discovered and apprehended. SW of Tooele.


VIRGINIA
Ft. A.P. Hill (Fredericksburg) - Rex 84 / FEMA facility. Estimated capacity 45,000.
Petersburg - Federal satellite prison camp, south of Richmond.


WEST VIRGINIA
Beckley - Alderson - Lewisburg - Former WWII detention camps that are now converted into active federal prison complexes capable of holding several times their current populations. Alderson is presently a women's federal reformatory.
Morgantown - Federal prison camp located in northern WV; just north of Kingwood.
Mill Creek - FEMA detention facility.
Kingwood - Newly built concentration camp just outside Camp Dawson Army Reservation. More data needed on Camp Dawson.


WASHINGTON
Seattle/Tacoma - SeaTac Airport: fully operational federal transfer center
Okanogan County - Borders Canada and is a site for a massive concentration camp capable of holding hundreds of thousands of people for slave labor. This is probably one of the locations that will be used to hold hard core patriots who will be held captive for the rest of their lives.
Sand Point Naval Station - Seattle - Federal prison detention camp, used actively during the 1999 WTO protests to classify prisoners.
Ft. Lewis / McChord AFB - near Tacoma - This is one of several sites that may be used to ship prisoners overseas for slave labor.


WISCONSIN
Ft. McCoy - Rex 84 facility with several complete interment compounds.
Oxford - Central part of state - Federal prison & staellite camp and FEMA detention facility.


WYOMING
Heart Mountain - Park County N. of Cody - WWII Japanese interment camp ready for renovation.
Laramie - FEMA detention facility
Southwest - near Lyman - FEMA detention facility
East Yellowstone - Manned internment facility - Investigating patriots were apprehended by European soldiers speaking in an unknown language. Federal government assumed custody of the persons and arranged their release.


OTHER LOCATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES ~ SUSPECTED SITES
There are many other locations not listed above that are worthy of consideration as a possible detention camp site, but due to space limitations and the time needed to verify, could not be included here. Virtually all military reservations, posts, bases, stations, & depots can be considered highly suspect (because it is "federal" land). Also fitting this category are "Regional Airports" and "International Airports" which also fall under federal jurisdiction and have limited-access areas. Mental hospitals, closed hospitals & nursing homes, closed military bases, wildlife refuges, state prisons, toxic waste dumps, hotels and other areas all have varying degrees of potential for being a detention camp area. The likelihood of a site being suspect increases with transportation access to the site, including airports/airstrips, railheads, navigable waterways & ports, interstate and US highways. Some facilities are "disguised" as industrial or commercial properties, camouflaged or even wholly contained inside large buildings (Indianapolis) or factories. Many inner-city buildings left vacant during the de-industrialization of America have been quietly acquired and held, sometimes retrofitted for their new uses.


CANADA
Our Canadian friends tell us that virtually all Canadian military bases, especially those north of the 50th Parallel, are all set up with concentration camps. Not even half of these can be listed, but here are a few sites with the massive land space to handle any population:
Suffield CFB - just north of Medicine Hat, less than 60 miles from the USA.
Primrose Lake Air Range - 70 miles northeast of Edmonton.
Wainwright CFB - halfway between Medicine Hat and Primrose Lake.
Ft. Nelson - Northernmost point on the BC Railway line.
Ft. McPherson - Very cold territory ~ NW Territories.
Ft. Providence - Located on Great Slave Lake.
Halifax - Nova Scotia. Dept. of National Defense reserve.... And others.


OVERSEA LOCATIONS
Guayanabo, Puerto Rico - Federal prison camp facility. Capacity unknown.
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba - US Marine Corps Base - Presently home to 30,000 Mariel Cubans and 40,000 Albanians. Total capacity unknown.


WHITE BOXCARS and CAMP CARS
Mojave, Ca.- Chicago Hts., Ill. - Albion, Pa. - Portland, Oregon: Patriots who watch the railroads for evidence of UN military vehicles and tanks have reported a new development in the concentration camp program for America. In September 1998, spotters noticed boxcars painted white showing up out west. Since all rail cars have to have a special number on the side in order to be routed to their destination, these boxcars stood out like a sore thumb. Typically, a boxcar would have a number like CSXT 119626, for example. CSXT is a "reporting mark" indicating that the railroad that owns the car is CSX Transportation. Burlington Northern - Santa Fe railroad is BNSF, Union Tank Car is UTLX, et cetera.
An employee of a manufacturer of the boxcars spoke on condition of anonymity about the boxcars. This company, Gunderson Rail Car Co., received a contract to build over 400 boxcars for transporting prisoners. They have shackles and racks built inside by another company before they are shipped out. The boxcars were ordered and paid for by the UN, and have been shipped to parts unknown for over a year now. These prisoner boxcars are being manufactured by several companies like Gunderson, including Thrall Railcar, but are not limited to these companies. Although coincidental, the name "Thrall" means "slave". Or maybe it isn't a coincidence?
Another railcar that seems to be popping up all over the USA is the old fashioned "camp car" which was used for maintenance-of-way crews to live in while out repairing railroad tracks. These resemble mobile homes and are anchored to the frames of flat cars. These camp cars are designed to accommodate six to eight railroad workers but could hold over two dozen persons if it were used to transport passengers. The problem with these is that most railroads today have all but eliminated the use of these expensive-to-maintain railcars in favor of cheap motels. So, all these railcars have to go somewhere, why not give them to the UN? It seems that they have been going to Pennsylvania, California, and Canada to be "retrofitted" for prisoner transport. Especially revealing is the fact that these "camp cars" are still being made when railroads don't use them much anymore; and there can be only one possible explanation for the new demand for these railcars.
Most recently, the retrofitted auto carriers have been added to the list of "prisoner boxcars". These railcars are actually not boxcars. These are articulated A-B type units with a rubber "accordion" vestibule connecting them and small square ventilation vents perforated in the smooth sheet metal. Although these railcars are painted white, they do have normal railroad markings on them such as "Kansas City Southern", suggesting that they may be recouping the investment in them by using them for moving livestock such as pigs and cattle. Cattle today, and chattel tomorrow.
Many of the detention facilities and concentration camps have railheads, which allow for massed prisoner transport. The identification of these boxcars closes the loop on this subject, and illustrates just how complete the plans for detention have become.


NATIONAL RESPONSE PLAN - THE WACO CONNECTION
It was learned in the two years following the Waco incident that Jeff Little & Wayne Martin were investigating government activities from Mount Carmel. According to Wally Kennett, cited in the documentary "Day 51: The True Story of Waco", the Branch Davidians had stumbled upon data relating to the US concentration camp program that deals with the disarmament of the American people. They learned that tens of thousands of Russian AK rifles had been smuggled into the US by the government, and was being stored / distributed at Fort Sill in Oklahoma. This may have very well been the unspoken reason why the Davidians were targeted for elimination by the government. What the Davidians learned went beyond a knowledge of the plans for the global takeover in America; They became the unwitting target for the "National Response Plan", which is the latest incarnation of the martial law program for the USA. It is unknown if Little & Martin had obtained additional information on the coming martial law program; nearly all of the knowledge they acquired died with the Davidians on April 19, 1993. Whatever was discovered, it so alarmed the government that they felt it necessary to not merely destroy all materials capable of holding copies of that data; but to also destroy all persons (Davidians) who may have been exposed to knowledge of that data, even children.
The National Response Plan is mentioned obliquely in the Treasury Report on David Koresh and its' review of the assault on the Davidians. It is the national police/military take-over plan for the nation; what happened in Waco was a very small-scale implementation of the National Response Plan. A full examination of the National Response Plan is given at the Waco Museum website, at http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum Documentary details are provided.


THE FUTURE IS UP TO YOU
This grim picture is brought to you by the New World Order, which is already here. The noose is on the neck of America, and what you have read about is the "trapdoor". When this happens, the noose will be snapped tight and it will be too late. The time to prepare is now - it is up to you to educate your neighbors. There are many kinds of groups to join, and a few are actually geared towards surviving and evading the coming system of prison camps. These are usually organized at the county and state levels, and are worthy of consideration. Read the 2nd Amendment. Access the Internet, and download the pictures! A good place to start is at http://www.icvmmilitia.homestead.com/NWO.html Most of all, get your Bible out and use it the world's greatest survival handbook.


Suggested Reading:


Solzhenitsyn, Aleksandr L. The Gulag Archipelago, 1918-1956: An Experiment in Literary Investigation. 3v. Harper, 1974-78. Famous account of Soviet labor and concentration camps.


Weglyn, Michi. Years of Infamy: The Untold Story of America's Concentration Camps. Morrow, 1978. The story of Japanese-American internment during World War II.

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nsasucks...now I'm officially scared. I had heard of concentration camps as referenced by Texe Marrs in his book, "Big Sister is Watching You", but I never researched the matter until your posting. I never read Texe's book, even though I have received his newsletter for years. Maybe he and I will finally meet at the Austin Municipal Airport "camp"?? There sure will be interesting talk, if nothing else...

My husband was interrogated by a plain-clothes detective from Houston the other day while he was fishing.(When my husband told the man he saw him "take off his piece" before he got out of his car, the man was surprised and told him he was "very observant".) It was SO "coincidental" that the man had been in EVERY branch of the service and had held top secret clearance. This, of course, prompted my husband to give the man his military history and trade "war stories". Then my husband asked him who he was looking for, and naturally, he said "no one". He was a real "good ole boy" type, and pretended to know about fishing, but really didn't. He asked about a local bar and pointed the wrong way in relation to it's location, and then said he had passed it coming in from Houston. Well, my husband is terrible at directions, but he knew enough to catch him on that one, because the bar is nowhere near the road leading in from Houston. The guy acted "dumb" on a lot of stuff, but kept on about the Disabled Vets organizations, and how beneficial it would be for my husband to join one...yeah, another way to monitor his whereabouts and dissention toward the military... This man appeared in all the bars and restaurants in the area and asked everyone that would talk to him a lot of personal history questions. Kinda strange, but not surprising. My husband's fishing hole is not visible from the road -- but this "detective" just happened to find him. How obvious can you be???

So here I go again, posting T.M.I.....women are like that, yeah, they are....My husband will kill me when one of those white boxcars shows up to get us on the newly refurbished railroad tracks from Austin...it all falls into place now...

I would hate to go through all of this without Jesus and His protection. Of course, the servant is not greater than the Master, so I know persecution is in the future for those who are not ashamed to call Him their Lord. The fulfillment of prophecy just further proves that God has it all in His hands and in His control...P.T.L!

Thanks for sticking your neck out for all of us to be better informed...forewarned we are, and now our reaction is what counts.

God bless you, nsasucks. (Wish I had a better name to put at the end of that directive!!)

MollyGainYa, with love

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WonderWmn93
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posted 05-20-2001 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, MollyGainya! I have to agree with you. These things are scary. To think that they already have these camps in place. Wow makes me glad I know the Lord! I think that is what gives us peace. Even in these times of troubles, I do not fear. The Lord never gives us more than we can handle! What you said about your husband and that little encounter, makes me want to share a little something with you. This could be nothing but, it was strange! We were driving home yesterday morning from picking up some things from storage. I had the kids in the car with me and my husband was following way behind in another car. I got on the freeway heading home. I was way ahead of my husband. Anyway, I don't pay much attention to what is going on behind me in the mirrors as much as what is going on ahead of me. I got off a different exit to go home because I decided to pick up some donuts for the kids. I got off and went down the main street about 3 miles or so. I pulled into the donut shop and ran in to get some donuts. This is where things got strange. As I was coming out of the donut shop I saw a red van pulling out. There was 1 man in it. I got in and started to leave when my 7 yr old in the back said mom.. that car was following you! I said what do you mean? She said no I was watching him on the freeway and he was following us since the freeway. I asked her what he did when we pulled in to get donuts, and she said that he pulled in and parked. She said that when I started to walk out of the donut shop he started his car and began to leave. My daughter is very observant, but this just amazed me. I don't think that this was anything but gosh after this and then that FBI agent that showed up about a month ago asking questions... it is strange! Just thought that I would share my own stange events. Take care and God Bless, Melanie

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cydoniaquest
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posted 05-20-2001 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's something SUX would've posted (gotta keep up the spirit):

Operation Urban Warefare

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The Military Lies
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Don't you ever sleep? I've never seen such a relentless obsession with trying to assassinate somebody in my life. Are you possessed? You sure are persistent, not to be confused with effective. Your true intent is more and more evident with every post.

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cydoniaquest
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posted 05-20-2001 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What the hell are you talking about ML! Didn't you click on the link? It's about
Operation Urban Warrior, something that actually happened here in California in the bay area. All the photos were from this event. It is completely in keeping with the topic of this thread. How does this discredit anything? If anything it adds to the validity.

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Swedishoo
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posted 05-20-2001 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swedishoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cy, I remember they did this in two other cities too. Philly, Indy...Chicago? We flip the bill for all of this too.

You know, I'd like to know what the hell the problem is with people jumping on threads to end them. This thread being about Concentration Camps is interrupted by The Military Lies...again. What's your deal? Aren't you the one calling people idiots on another thread? You never explained yourself or apologized for that one.

Other Death Camp discussion is also at Chemtrail and Company, under the Red-Lettered header, Sign Codes.
http://www.coolboard.com/msgshow.cfm?&msgboard=93362682249756&msg=47725482801057&idDispSub=421829323606015

Christy

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cydoniaquest
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posted 05-20-2001 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the link to that site that I posted this information from Christy: InfoWars

Many here are very familiar with these conspiracies. I was not, and have been resisting them....but I've also been attempting to educate myself about what many here on the board seem to believe, in an effort to not be closed-minded. I think this is only a fair approach....to consider arguments of people like NSAsucks...to see if there is some validity to their claims before I form an absolute opinion.

I do believe there was a basis of truth in some of NSA's posts.....just that I found inconsistencies with his claims that this information came from his own personal experiences. My questioning to him in this area was sincere and genuine. I truly wanted to know if the information he relayed came from personal experience, rather than hearsay or third party accounts such as internet sites.

I never received an answer to this question but was instead perceived as an attacker, which was not my intention. Note that the reporter in this website, claims to have actual eyewitness accounts. Read the Bohemian Grove article for example. He is claiming these are his own photos....)there are photos of himself on location) something altogether different than NSA's claim to have expertise on an issue due to direct experience, while at the same time reporting third party accounts.

I hope people will see that my line of reasoning is understandable and perfectly natural here. It's important to critically question what you read and hear before making absolute judgments.

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David
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posted 05-20-2001 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cy, I spoke with a person that seen this 'assault" as it was taking place.
They assured me that this was a scarey thing to witness.
He said that they had "holding" areas for the resisters. Going door to door looking for hideouts and guns.
Why were so many other countries on this soil practicing door to door search and arrest on American people??
How come some of the people involved had no identifying patches or names?

Biggest Question: Who were they practicing to do this door to door/search and arrest on??
Second question: why were there so many other countries involved on American soil??

I could be wrong here, but isn't there something in the constitution about not training foriegn troops on American soil?

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posted 05-20-2001 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I completely understand and share your concerns in this area David. I was having the same thoughts myself as this was occurring. What were they practicing for? It was almost as if they expected to use this training for an actual expected future event, targeted at American citizens, in joint force with UN troops. Not a good sign any way you look at it. As much as a great part of me does not want to believe NSA's claims, there are also real events like this one that keep me coming back and staying somewhat open minded to the possibility.

This does indeed appear to be evidence for the concentration camp mentality in high places. Someone is thinking about this at some level.

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posted 05-20-2001 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cy
I just believe that the American people has become too complancent. We have not fought a war (that we were told about) in this country for many many years.
You read about places like Kosovo and you see it on the idiot tube, but it is nothing like being there at the time.
We, as a people and a nation find it inconceivable that anything such as concentration camps and invasion could take place. This is false thinking on our part.

Many countries around the world hate us with a passion and would like nothing better than to see us fall under some sort of domination, and would gladly lend a helping hand to achive this end.

The U.N. is the biggest worry for us. This is the body that would have us all in chains and becoming servants to TPTB.
Then there's Tony Blair the EU commie. This dud would like to be at the head of the ship along with Herr Clinton and his henchmen.

I find it all to much of a coincidence that we have chemtrails,sickness, practice invasions, and now the U.N. talking about world wide gun ban and confiscation.
Something is up, and I think most of us can feel it in our guts.
These slimballs have had years and years to put the pieces of the puzzle together, most of it right under our collective noses.

NSA spoke many truths. (please, I don't want to argue his point)
I could give you a prime example, but, I too have no proof of what I would like to say.
Just a conversation between myself and a high level member of the Armed forces stationed at the Pentagon. We met through a mutual friend.
I wrote an article(not published) 5 or so years ago on the information given to me, and most of what I was told would happen, has.

So far the ending to the story hasn't happened and I pray to God that it does not, but we ARE close.

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MollyGainYa
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posted 05-20-2001 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MollyGainYa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh come on now, David! Please don't leave us hanging! You can post the "end to the story", and I'LL BELIEVE YOU!! PAA-LEEEEZ!!

MollyGainYa, with love

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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posted 05-20-2001 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David...I can't disagree with one word of what you just said. I too think the UN would like nothing better than to rule the world, and will try at every opportunity if we let them. This is why I agree with GW's rejection of the Kyoto treaty. This is why I disagree with GW’s opposition to congress’ recent refusal to fund them.....Although, I am genrally in favor of his approach to governing. I do believe he is truly a conservative.

I believe that we need a strong defense against foreign invasion on many fronts, this is why I disagree with GW's continuation with Clinton's allowed lapse in our old two front policy.....but agree with GW's enthusiasm for SDI and missile defense, (even though some of my fellow conservatives take issue with this).

I agree that we have enemies like Russia and China just chomping at the bit and waiting to invade this country. They are making plans to do so as I write this. To not regard them as enemies, and to continue with the belief that the cold war ever ended at this point is very foolish (in my opinion). The cold war is very much alive except these days communist countries realize it is easier to take over a nation from within and with diplomacy rather than bullets. This is why treaties, like US/UN treaties are so dangerous and pose such a threat to freedom and US sovereignty.

I also agree with you that their are many apparent coincidences on many levels.....so much so, that they are likely not coincidences. I had a slightly different take on who the conspirators were during the Clinton administration. I theorized publicly that he had plans to intentionally weaken the United States, instigate a martial law situation and place himself as the leader of the UN forces that would be necessary to come in and "help" in the event of a major catastrophic world wide crises such as a nuclear war or incident. I believe Clinton intentionally armed the Chinese and destabilized our relationship with Russia for this express purpose. By opening up the window or opportunity for foreign attack and invasion in all areas, he would legitimize the role of the UN "ally" and under that circumstance be able to put himself at the head of the UN body and essentially a world leadership position. To this day, I still believe that was Clinton's objective....but this of course is all theory and speculation on my part. Most will argue that it does not take into account the bigger picture of a hidden government agenda. This is where I disagree. I felt it was Clinton's agenda.

I have always said there is nothing wrong with expressing a belief David, and making a logical and circumstantial case for that belief......just as long as you don't try to sell your statement as an absolute certainty and truth. If someone like NSA claims something as truth or certainty because he had personal experience, then it is only logical that the reader ask how he obtained his knowledge...because he is in effect saying...."Just trust me, I know because I was there". I would never expect someone to just accept my Clinton theory for example, hook line and sinker....because it is only a theory and conjecture, based upon a personal interpretation of events and evidence. I can probably make a good logical and circumstantial case though, and there is nothing in the world wrong or disingenuous about doing so, as some seem to think......

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posted 05-21-2001 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CQ.. thankyou for the link and info on Operation Urban Warefare, think that is what it was. I have been doing a lot of reading on these things and it is scary to read and see pictures of this stuff. I don't know if this is anything but I thought that I would share it with you guys. I think most of you have seen the pictures of areas where large amounts of white vehicles are being stored, for no logical reason. Well, maybe there is a reason, but we just don't know about it. I remember reading some things about New Mexico and the UN and well, a lot of other things. Anyway, My husband dosen't get on the boards like I do, and read about stuff. I just tell him things as I read about them. Well he came home this morning with a strange story about what he saw this morning on the freeway coming home from work. He works in Seattle, and he was driving home North on I 5. I know some of you are from Washington. As he was driving, something caught his attention. He said that there were 5 big white Suburbans driving in a single file line up I 5. They all had New Mexico licence plates. He said that they had a bunch of antennas on the top of them. The windows were tinted. As he was passing them, he noticed a man driving each car. He said they seemed a little strange. They all had short hair, sunglasses and a really long thick dark beard, almost as if it was fake. He said he has never seen anything like it. He dosen't know where they were heading because he passed them and lost them when he approached Shoreline(a city N of Seattle). I don't know if it was anything, but it did sound strange to me. I think the New Mexico licence plates hit me the most? I don't know, just thought that I would share with you guys.
God Bless,
Melanie
P.S... I think I will keep a camera in my car from now on! I would love to have taken pictures of that one.

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cydoniaquest
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posted 05-21-2001 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like your typical M.I.B.s Wonderwoman!

Here's another interesting site about the UN. Is the UN Evil?

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WonderWmn93
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posted 05-21-2001 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WonderWmn93   Visit WonderWmn93's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey CQ.. Would that be Men In Black? Still trying to get use to the short words here.LOL.Anyway, I have to wonder where they were heading? Huh, I will probably ponder this one for a while. Thanks for the link also. I will add that one to my list to read.
God Bless,
Melanie

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defender
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posted 05-21-2001 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that The Military Lies is referring to the forum that cydoniaquest posted called "Black Helicopters Anyone?" in the main Chemtrail area. This seemed to be an attempt by cydoniaquest to discredit and ridicule, or 'screen' out anyone who says they've had a direct experience with 'black helicopters'. I posted the following message there with a liink to Operation Garden Plot, (and it happened in many cities, not just a couple... including Houston. But it was done in poor areas, like Houston's 5th Ward> Maybe these areas were chosen because people have no economic power to protest, no access to lawyers, and may have been an attempt to terrify those populations? Maybe dress rehearsal for actual Martial Law scenarios in the future.


Operation Garden Plot http://apfn.org/THEWINDS/archive/newworld/peacekeep7-97.html

"It was during the Reagan years that many of the domestic military and intelligence programs were instituted. Operation Garden Plot is the code name for the use of coordinated military action in law enforcement at any time during a civil disturbance within the fifty states, District of Columbia, and possessions and territories The operation of the FBI's COINTELPRO Domestic Counter Intelligence Program, FEMA Federal Emergence Management Agency, and JTTF Joint Terror Task Force, all give the government the authority to step in and immediately crush any civil disturbance or turmoil which might occur. Civil disturbances are defined as riots, acts of violence, insurrection, unlawful obstruction or assemblage, or other disorders prejudicial to public law and order.

Urban Warfare Training has been conducted in Los Angeles, Dallas, Miami, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Washington, Charlotte, and may be coming to a city near you. These exercises may be calculated to condition the American people to the sights and sounds of warfare in their neighborhoods. About ten mock invasions of major U.S. cities occur each year. The Charlotte Observer reports on one such invasion in March of this year, "Without warning, helicopters swooped over Third Ward, scaring residents with sounds of simulated bombs and gunfire as commandos stormed a vacant warehouse. They used training ammunition designed to look and sound like the real thing, with flash-bangs and people jumping out of helicopters. About 100 Army special operations troops descended on uptown for a secret drill. 12 helicopters, including special Black Hawks, swooped in. Charlotte residents, rattled by hovering choppers and noises that sounded like explosions, flooded police and city offices with complaints."

"The world is witnessing, on a massive global scale, the lethal conditioning of humanity. Whole populations can so easily become desensitized to the significance of the most earth-shaking events happening around them. As exemplified in the degradation of the moral and ethical character of our military, what seems reprehensible and abhorrent at the outset, slowly becomes reasonable and justified after a period of conditioning."

If cydoniaquest is really open to discussion of topics about Operation Garden Plot and brain implants, that's fine. I just question his efforts to post links and begin new forums of topics that have already been started? We may actually agree on the U.N., but not necessarily the reasons behind military operations being staged (Garden Plot), and carried out (Waco, L.A., OK City?).

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cydoniaquest
nobody

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posted 05-21-2001 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This seemed to be an attempt by cydoniaquest to discredit and ridicule, or 'screen' out anyone who says they've had a direct experience with 'black helicopters'.

Actually, your premise that it was an attempt to discredit might be valid....if were not the truth!!!!!!!!

I actually saw a black helicopter fly over me just as I reported it...did you ever think of that!!!!!

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defender
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posted 05-22-2001 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

..."Hope one of these baybees didn't scoop up MR Sux now!
If you see the inside of one, can you give us all a good description Delphi and RTW?"...

It was obvious to those of us familiar with cydoniaquests tactics that he was attempting to ridicule members who reported incidents with black helicopters. Similar to his attempts to ridicule members like Delphi and others in regards to electronic implants or anything or anyone else he's tried to discredit. I'm just reporting to new members what most of us already know.

As I said in that forum, I haven't had the experience of personal harassment by any helicopters. I've seen Apache gunship choppers over Lake Conroe, like I've seen other military choppers in other parts of the country, but they appeared to just be in transit, nothing like the Urban Warfare/Gardenplot operations carried out in American cities. I heard about the one in Houston through a local news channel on the day it happened at about 6:00am, either shortly before or during the time that the actual operations was taking place over the poverty-stricken and drug-infested 5th ward.

Individual incidents where people are being harrassed by choppers for some other reason should be taken seriously. I have no reason to doubt that it has happened to some people in light of all the other things going on in America these days.

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posted 05-22-2001 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cydoniaquest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Delphi made the ridiculous implication that Nsa may have been abducted during his absense. This was a response in context. You misinterpret everything you read Defender. You chose the wrong handle......because most of the time you are on the offensive.

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