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Topic: Popular Mechanics Article 'ECHELON' | Topic page views:
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Norrin Radd
Senior Member
92 posts, Nov 2000
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posted 04-19-2001 08:48 PM
  
As Promised, I am posting the link for this great, albeit short, article.Brent
http://popularmechanics.mondosearch.com/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=35978200&host_id=1&page_id=14&query=echelon 
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 04-19-2001 11:41 PM
Thanks Brent...
quote:
"Uncle Sam turns his multibillion-dollar espionage machine on John Q. Public."
...In the past, the acknowledgement of an intelligence asset has usually meant it had become obsolete. Security experts tell POPULAR MECHANICS that the unanticipated growth of Internet traffic may be more than Echelon can handle. And, NSA has in fact confirmed its computers were shut down for three days last year.
Some believe the recent candor is because NSA is shifting to a new, more tightly focused espionage strategy, using a ground-based technology code-named Tempest. The underlying theory is that electronic circuits create “compromising emanations.” Not to be confused with interference, these are subtle but measurable changes in surrounding systems—comparable to the dip in line voltage that occurs when the light in your refrigerator goes on as you open the door.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thermit on 04-19-2001]
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-20-2001 02:23 AM
I wonder if their latest gadget, that Tempest thing or whatever, is already working around here...I get these wierd energy drops and surges often...I wonder who chooses the names for all these clandestine projects?? Carnivore, Echelon, HAARP, Clover-leaf?? What next? Things just keep getting "curiouser and curiouser"! Blessings, Joanne
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desert flower
KICKASS GODDESS
lala land
165 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 04-20-2001 08:51 AM
yeah!!! I've noticed the energy surges too.
I've always put them down to whatever agents we were being sprayed with---sort of like if we would be more likely to shop if we were dull and disinterested, --or bubbly and animated.
Oh oh just sprung a leak in my naivete.
Gotta go.
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Delphi
Mystic Warrior
S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 04-21-2001 12:34 AM
We have had so many problems with our electrical appliances, "fried computers", phone problems up the Kazoo, and even an odd explosion noise in our back yard, (no storm or anything)...does make one wonder about those nice, non-lethal EM and Microwave technologies...but then I've been a UFO investigator for a long time, so none of it is a surprise and none of "electrical harrassment" toys they have are that new as we may think, probably been around longer than we realize...Just look at Tesla research...you can bet TPTB took advantage of his works long before all this even. Blessings, Joanne
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 05-26-2001 09:21 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,496820,00.html quote:
Worldwide spying network is revealed MEPs confirm eavesdropping by Echelon electronic network Stuart Millar, Richard Norton-Taylor and Ian Black
Saturday May 26, 2001 -=- The Guardian For years it has been the subject of bitter controversy, its existence repeatedly claimed but never officially acknowledged.
At last, the leaked draft of a report to be published next week by the European parliament removes any lingering doubt: Echelon, a shadowy, US-led worldwide electronic spying network, is a reality. Echelon is part of an Anglo-Saxon club set up by secret treaty in 1947, whereby the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, divided the world between them to share the product of global eavesdropping. Agencies from the five countries exchange intercepts using supercomputers to identify key words. The intercepts are picked up by ground stations, including the US base at Menwith Hill in North Yorkshire, and GCHQ's listening post at Morwenstow in Cornwall. In the cold war, eavesdropping - signals intelligence, or Sigint as it is known in the trade - was aimed at military and diplomatic communications. Helped by increasingly sophisticated computers, it has now switched to industrial, commercial targets - and private individuals. Echelon computers can store millions of records on individuals, intercepting faxes, phone calls, and emails. ...
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
1117 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 08-08-2003 06:10 AM
Mine come in the form of computer shut downs when I try to go on-line.It attempts to send an error report to MicroBushminions. The report is a summary of all my offline activity.
I pull the plug and reboot/reinstall software to prevent Bill Gates getting his payback for Dubya dropping the monopoly suit. sold out does not have to include spying on me! Bill Gates probably sold his soul to dubya...
to get that monopoly suit dropped...
I didn't sell mine! Let ameriKan speaking Nazis read Bill Gates' files...mine are protected "always trust Microsoft?"
Never trust MicroBush!" Never! No reports ever!
Barbecue HDD if ever an unathorized download occurs.
get me MicroBush minions?
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 08-08-2003 10:50 PM
Buy a Macintosh with a good firewall and use Netscape 7 with 128 bit encryption.Never been hacked yet. When I owned a microslop machine it was always crashing.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 08-08-2003]
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 08-08-2003 11:13 PM
There isn't one encryption code the gov doesn't have or can't get.
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 08-08-2003 11:16 PM
Really?Even PGP? Where is your proof? Otherwise you are blowing hot air.
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 08-08-2003 11:21 PM
You should be so naive, it starts within the patent office where it is known automatically whats going on and who. Don't believe me, look at microsoft, wouldn't you think the biggest producer with all that money could call it's own shots? why all the backdoors in windows and other systems alike?
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Mech
Commitees of Correspondence
The Minuteman State
6025 posts, Jun 2001
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posted 08-08-2003 11:44 PM
I said Macintosh and PGP...not Microsoft.Microsoft is full of holes.Theres a reason for that. You are the one who is naive to trust a corrupt government.
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the professor
KNOW YOUR ROLE
heartland USA
1164 posts, Jan 2003
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posted 08-09-2003 12:03 AM
Wow, you really are a dud! I used microsoft as an example, kinda like your posts.
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
1117 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 08-12-2003 10:12 PM
During the last administration:
Microsoft was subject to an anti-trust suit by federal prosecutors.The current regime dropped the anti-trust suit soon after taking control. Microsoft should have only as many hacker holes, as Microsoft designed in. Get the idea? I've stopped Microslop sending in reports of "system problems";
Examined the file that was to be sent;
and noticed that the "problem"
is merely a comprehensive listing of all recent computer activity. "Magic lantern" real time keystroke logging and (on-line) reporting has been a reality for 3years. Bet you can get a sudden power surge or failure. Just try to post comments such as
why
air defenses designed to track radar jammimg soviet missiles were unable to track 4 jumbo jets on 911.
Because their transponders were turned off. Yet Fox weather radar tracks rainclouds and migrating geese. Who puts transponders on clouds and geese?
Bush gave stand down orders on 911 is the only rational explanation.
(Let It Happen On Purpose/ LIHOP is the acronym for America's Reichstag fire/BTW)
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Rogue
New Member
11 posts, Aug 2003
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posted 08-12-2003 11:44 PM
Look...I cannot deny what I see happening around me. And as a matter of fact I'm quite familiar with echelon, which was introduced before TIA and the IAO were. However, I think it would be a bit overboard to imply that microsoft intentionally left port 135 vulnerable, for example, so the government could spy on the masses. Besides, Echelon utilizes a very intrepid micromanagement system and macroinstruction that microsoft simply couldn't handle. FOr example, the crystal keyhole is the trademark of the NSA. But hey, there are keyholes in computers too. I guess my point is that some of the keyholes are there for surveillance.... those are the ones you'll never know about. The recent vulnerabilities (PCR) in the windows OS' is related to a port which can be compromised (135-137). In this instance, it's simply a matter of a buffer overflow; then code execution. This is not something that 'they' or the gov/ill planned. This is simply a flaw, an imperfection if you will. I would not equate echelon with microsoft. It's an insult to echelon. Arrevederci.
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shatoga
Agent Provocateur
1117 posts, Nov 2002
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posted 08-14-2003 07:18 AM
Reference my previous post about Microslop getting let off the hook
(anti-trust suit)
by Bush's administration.IMHO:
'Payback' is a bitch!
Bill Gates is GW Bush's 'bitch'! Microslop either is totally incompetent or deliberately designed holes into windows software.
(then sold out 'some of' those 'designed-in access ports' to get the lawsuit/prosecution dropped)
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