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amber
UK ENVOY
uk
445 posts, May 2001
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posted 05-28-2001 10:13 AM
  
As you know I'm new here, so forgive me if this is going over old ground 
I listened to a tape of an interview a while ago, on Art Bell's site. The interviewee was a man called 7 or Johnathan? He claimed to be from the future. He said he had come back to now, to stop the greys and some from his time, from altering the atmosphere. There is an obvious connection with chemtrails...if you think he has any merit that is...have you discussed this previously?
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RidesTheWind
visionary
The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 05-28-2001 10:51 AM
Hey...Hadn't heard that one Amber...What was this guy saying???
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amber
UK ENVOY
uk
445 posts, May 2001
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posted 05-28-2001 11:21 AM
Hi RTW...I can't rememember it in great detail...and i can't find it on Art Bell's site...But...This Johnathan said, that in his time - 50 years from now..the greys causing them/us problems...so weather'techs' come back to alter the atmosphere...to increase global warming...so that the planet is unhabitable for the greys...and part of the price for this is that millions of us here and now would die...but we are in the past so that doesn't matter  This Man states that he is against this harming of 'us' to stop the greys in the future, and was doing his best to stop this.
This could all be rubbish of course...but how would we know if time travel has happened in the future? Let's say we are at a crucial point in history now...where our atmosphere is at a critical point...to stop this..whatever it may be...people from the future may come back to NOW to alter the atmosphere...chemtrails?
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RidesTheWind
visionary
The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 05-28-2001 12:37 PM
Thanka Amber...it feels most definately like we are fast in acceleration of whatever the end game is.Makes ya want to get out before the destruction completes itself.This is all an absolute nightmare...One day life is just life, the next day its turned upside and begins disintergrating...Oh Joy!!!
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Moose
Senior Member
Fargo, ND
24 posts, Jan 2001
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posted 05-31-2001 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by amber:
Hi RTW...I can't rememember it in great detail...and i can't find it on Art Bell's site...But...This Johnathan said, that in his time - 50 years from now..the greys causing them/us problems...so weather'techs' come back to alter the atmosphere...to increase global warming...so that the planet is unhabitable for the greys...and part of the price for this is that millions of us here and now would die...but we are in the past so that doesn't matter This Man states that he is against this harming of 'us' to stop the greys in the future, and was doing his best to stop this.
This could all be rubbish of course...but how would we know if time travel has happened in the future? Let's say we are at a crucial point in history now...where our atmosphere is at a critical point...to stop this..whatever it may be...people from the future may come back to NOW to alter the atmosphere...chemtrails?
There are a whole lot of very talented yarn-spinners out there, amber: for my money, this story is rubbish. If these guys *could* travel through time and really believed that they would kill millions of people by spraying "their" atmosphere 50 years in the past (our "present"), they would have to realize that such an event would seriously impact the future...*their* "present"...if they even had one following such a ridiculous and desparate maneuver. Anyway...for what it's worth...
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amber
UK ENVOY
uk
445 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-04-2001 04:08 AM
Yes Moose, I realise he was probably a yarnspinner, but his 'tale' is perhaps tapping into a universal, unspoken fear of the whole new world order/hostile ET thing? As for the 'can't do anything in the past as you alter your future' maybe this is a red herring? It makes logical sense...but perhaps in the future or perhaps in our now...they have found a way around it?
Perhaps 'they' have used remote viewing to see the future ( a form of time travel) and see where we are headed, see the planet in trouble, and are trying to prevent it now?
Food for thought?
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-04-2001 08:42 AM
Reminds me of the movie "Twelve Monkeys"!
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amber
UK ENVOY
uk
445 posts, May 2001
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posted 06-05-2001 04:09 AM
This is my second attempt to post this, I think 'they' are messing with my computer!
After mentions of George Orwell's 1984, I decided to find a copy and re-read it. It is this book, which I read at 15, which I now realise had a profound affect on me. It links to the 'lurkers' topic too - the main Character Winston buys a diary, and having paper is punishable by death. Putting one's thoughts down was punishable by death. The lurkers perhaps fear that by posting, and putting their thoughts down, that big brother will get them...Fear is the main theme of 1984. So Winston is taking great riks but feels he must write in the diary. In the first chapter,Orwell writes: 'For whom, it suddenly occurred to him to wonder, was he writing this diary? For the future, for the unborn...For the first time the magnitude of what he had undertaken came home to him. How could you communicate with the future? It was of its nature impossible. Either the future would resemble the present, in which case it would not listen to him: or it would be different from it, and his predicament would be meaningless'. There are profound messages in that passage, I believe. Let's pretend that it is not the character that is speaking, but Orwell himself - If Orwell was a visionary - and 1984 and his predictions about OUR present are quite visionary and accurate - then perhaps he HAD seen the future and was trying to warn us? Where better to hide an important message for the future, so that it is guaranteed to be read, than in a novel!!
Perhaps, the reference to writing down one's thoughts being punishable by death - was a hint that he was taking his life in his hands by trying to warn us...perhaps he was privy to the plans for the NWO, back in the 1940s?
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RidesTheWind
visionary
The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001
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posted 06-05-2001 05:45 AM
Good thought amber! I need to reread that too.A good thing for a rainy day.Depak Chopra sometimes now writes under fiction as it has become the only way he can get his message out there and be heard without being held liable for every freaking word that it be truth. We need someone who writes really well to create the chemtrail story as fiction and put it out.Its the only way to be heard and be safe from rules!
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-05-2001 08:42 AM
Maybe a team effort... I would choose Chris Carter and David Lynch for starters, although Stephen King appeals more to the masses! 
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 06-08-2001 02:01 PM
I thought this was interesting, mentions space and time disturbances.Pavlova, L. N. 1989. Propagation of short light pulses in clouds. Proc. Inst. Exper. Meteorol. Goskomgidromet. 49:82-92.
A short review is given of theoretical and experimental results of studying the passage and reflection of short light pulses in media (clouds of large optical depth). The main effects observed when short light pulses propagate in clouds, apart from their decreasing energy, is their space, angle, and time broadening, which in turn results in space and time disturbance of irradiation coherence. Studying the effect of medium characteristics on these processes is of practical value for the development of optical systems for signaling, location, and communication systems. http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/epubs/cdiac/cdiac64/2russ.htm
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