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RidesTheWind
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The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 08-12-2001 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wake up and see the mind control at work so you can see for yourselves. http://geocities.com/vialls2/subliminal1.html

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-12-2001 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RTW, I read this article recently but got "brain fog" again and didn't mention it here. That is a PRIME example of how the gov. works and how no one really "sees" or noticies anything...the article bragged about how the positions were constantly being changed on the tanks in reference to the triangle, and no one noticed! God, I sometimes wonder if I have the "brain fog" because of the MS/FM/GWI garbage, (which is all the same diseases, I think)...or is everyone getting that way from the alluminum particles in the chemtrails as Dr. Horowitz mentioned recently on Renses radio show.? An awful lot of folks at Chem.trackingusa have been reporting their neighbors, pals, families, being diagnosed with MS...many cases compared to in the past! Hmmm! Love, Jo ^j^

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 08-13-2001 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the link RTW! Jo, speaking of MS...

quote:
A Good Soldier

Questions about VA Disability and Multiple Sclerosis

He fell suddenly, not a hundred feet from my moving car. It was a solid, bone breaking tumble and I was surprised when he got to his feet, brushed himself off and resumed walking hesitantly toward a car parked next to the curb from which he'd just fallen. I drove slowly alongside, then braked and asked if he were all right. He smiled when he saw me; I recognized him as one of my daughter's friends, Sam. I had known him for over ten years. We'd met just after his return from an enlistment with Army Rangers. It had come as a shock to all of us when we learned he had Multiple Sclerosis. He'd gone to a doctor because of numbness in his leg and blurred vision and after extended testing, was diagnosed with the disease.

Over the years I'd hear bits and pieces of Sam's progress from my daughter. After I witnessed his fall, I asked her for an update and she told me that he'd had some problems walking and that he was using a cane most of the time. I asked her what he was doing for money and she said that he was getting paid by the Army, full disability and all medical benefits. I was dumbfounded and told her that she must be wrong and would she check as soon as possible. She did and confirmed that he was indeed receiving full benefits and that MS was considered a service connected disability.

I found this so hard to believe that I contacted Sam myself and he agreed to an interview. He confirmed that he was on disability. He said that the VA will grant disability status if the condition becomes apparent to a degree of ten percent or more within seven years from the date of a veteran's separation from the service. Sam didn't realize he was eligible for these benefits until a friend, an ex-serviceman, told him, three years after his initial diagnosis. The VA confirmed Sam's disability and service connection.

I'm glad that Sam's needs are being met by the VA. He was a good soldier. But it's difficult, if not impossible to understand the VA's reasoning and justification for granting disability status and a service connection for MS. There is no know cause for MS. If the cause is unknown, how can a connection be made between a person's stay in the service and MS? It doesn't make sense. A service-connected disability can be granted for any condition which is incurred or aggravated by a veteran's military service. The big questions are: What is it in the service environment that causes folks to become susceptible to MS and how did the VA make a connection between this environmental factor, service in the armed forces, and Multiple Sclerosis?

Multiple Sclerosis is an unpredictable disease of the central nervous system. Myelin, which facilitates the high speed transmission of electrochemical impulses between the brain and the spinal cord, becomes scarred and hardened into what are known as plaques. These multiple plaques damage the myelin and cause the neurological transmissions to be slowed or blocked completely which leads to diminished and, sometimes, lost functioning. The symptoms, severity and duration of MS varies from person to person. Most patients experience muscle weakness and loss of muscular control, fatigue, vision problems and cognitive impairments such as poor memory and concentration. Other symptoms include pain, tremor, vertigo, bladder and bowel dysfunction, depression and euphoria.

There are 350,000 Americans who have MS and about two hundred new cases are diagnosed each week. Most folks experience their first symptoms between the age of twenty and forty, rarely before fifteen and seldom after sixty. Caucasians are more than twice as likely to contract MS than other races; MS is five times more prevalent in temperate climates than in tropical. There does seem to be a genetic relationship or connection between those who are susceptible to MS. In the population at large, a person has a one-tenth of one percent chance of contracting MS but if one person in a family has MS then the other family members have a three percent chance of getting it also.

The cause for MS is not known. Some think it's an auto immune disease that launches an attack on its own tissues. While this is certainly a clear possibility, nothing conclusive has ever been established. One plausible theory is that the causative agent could be a unique microorganism such as a mycoplasma. These poorly understood organisms are able to alter protein, and then sensitize the host against itself. For example it was found that mycoplasmas can cause the formation of the rheumatoid factor. A similar mechanism could apply to Lupus and many other auto immune disorders. Another interesting factor is that females, who are infected four times more frequently with mycoplasmas than males, are twice as likely to contract MS.

But this is all only speculation because the truth is we simply don't know what causes MS. Then how did the VA decide that MS was connected to a person's stay in the Armed Forces? I wrote the Department Of Defense, through Barbara Boxer's office, and they refused to answer any questions. I also contacted the Veterans Administration. They did confirm that MS was a service connected disability and answered some of my inquiries. They seemed puzzled that I was skeptical of the MS disability designation and informed me that "congressional legislation would be required to change these provisions of the law".

There are currently about eleven thousand veterans who have been granted a service connected disability for MS. The only condition is that the disease be confirmed within seven years of a veteran's separation from service. As any one familiar with the labyrinthian process of obtaining a service related disability can attest, it isn't easy getting money from the VA. The problems surrounding "Gulf War Illness" is a certain reminder of this fact

The VA and the Department Of Defense must possess information that they're not sharing with the rest of us and certainly not with the new enlistees. I know the Sergeant isn't telling new recruits that they should look out for MS, as they do with AIDS or syphilis. If there is a chance that MS might be contracted or complicated by their time in military service, then why aren't enlistees told this? Would this complicate the recruitment process? Probably, but I have the sneaking suspicion that it would complicate something far more important to the modern Armed Forces: vaccinations. This is the one factor, aside from the traditional haircut, that all service folks have in common. If, as some believe, the causative agent is a mycoplasma, vaccinations could conceivably be the mode of transmission.

What bothers me most is that I'm sure the VA and the DOD have research that justifies granting this disability to thousands of veterans. If they have information that connects MS to military service, then we should all know what that information is. Multiple Sclerosis is a serious and growing disorder that afflicts millions of persons. To purposefully withhold information that would better our understanding of this disease is unjustified.



http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.org/reaction/goodsoldier.html

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-13-2001 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Lulu, that article really "brings home" the realization of what gets "done" or not "done" for us or to us and how there is so much deception and lack of true altruism in some of the scientific and gov. communities. Thanx for that "eye-opening" article. Love, Joanne ^j^

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Duncan Kunz
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582 posts, Oct 2000

posted 08-14-2001 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duncan Kunz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The cited article by Joe Vialls, entitled "Subliminal Media Mind Control" is difficult to describe in one line, but I will attempt it anyway.

It is an unmitigated boatload of crap.

Now don't get me wrong. Neo-Nazis like Vialls have as much right to publish anti-Jewish rants as Jay Reynolds has to publish anti-chemtrail rants or Cliff Carnicom has to publish pro-chemtrail rants or I have to publish pro-Boeing rants. This is a free country, and the First Amendment is, if not alive and well, at least semi-conscious.

What annoys me about Vialls' smarmy little story is that, from a factual point, its main thrust - that the M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (MBT) recognition decals are some secret Jewish code - is just plain silly.

Let's look at some of the excerpts:

"...millions of subconscious minds were unwittingly coerced into believing that Israel was the only remaining super power on earth, Israel was the world's policeman, and anyone failing to carry out Israel's orders with alacrity would be utterly destroyed completely..."

Gee, back then I was doing just what I do now (working for a defense organization) and what I thought was that the Israelis were a bunch of bozos who weren't even fighting the war, and our biggest job was to keep them from getting into it, since it would pretty much destroy the fragile anti-Saddam coalition, most of whom hated the Israelis as much as they did Saddam!

Bear in mind that, just prior to Desert Storm, these same "superpower" Israelis were bogged down in southern Lebanon - their own 'Vietnam' - where almost everything they tried, military or otherwise, was going wrong.

"Suddenly each and every tank sported a large single "V" emblem, though not always in the same orientation. The "V" shown on the American Abrams M1 battle tank below right points up, but others pointed down, forwards, or backwards, on different days for no apparent reason."

Wrong. As you can see in an excerpt from the GAO's investigation into a fratricide incident (where the US Army, by the way, was lambasted), it says "All three vehicles were equipped with the standard antifratricide/recognition decals, [in this case] an inverted V." You can read the report at http://www.fas.org/irp/gao/osi95010.htm .

Vialls describes the marking as "...which in reality is an equilateral triangle with the base missing."

Wrong again, depleted uranium-breath. A picture of the M1A1 MBT with a complete (not truncated) triangle can be seen at http://www.army-technology.com/projects/abrams/abrams8.html .

There's a simple reason that triangles are used for recognition decals. Most modern MBTs look similar. They are designed for low observability and a maximum volume-to-surface area ratio. That means they'll all be low with wide, squat turrets. Anyone can tell the difference between MBTs of World War II; it's much harder to do so today, especially under battlefield conditions.

So you need to see something as simple and obvious as possible that'll identify Your Guys from the Other Guys. Recognition experts choose the triangle for this, because it's the easiest geometrical figure to see and identify, especially if there's dust, bullets, AH-64 Apaches, and Iraqi body parts flying all over the place.

And why do they point in different ways? Two reasons here. First, the differences might be to differentiate between armored battalion or armored Cav regiments for unit identification.

Second, because they can be easily re-painted or re-aligned, the decals could be battle group identifiers so the commander can look down from his UH-60 and make sure that the tanks that are here are supposed to be the ones here and not the ones who are supposed to be fifteen kilometers away.

Remember, more US soldiers were killed by fratricide than by Saddam's Republican Guard; that's why knowing which tanks are Good Guys is so important.

So the whole silly business about a Secret Zionist Plot falls apart, because Vialls is more interested in jew-bashing than in telling you the truth.

Now that doesn't mean that subliminal advertising doesn't exist, or that it's a good thing (I certainly don't like it). It also doesn't mean that our foreign policy doesn't tilt unfairly towards Israel (which, in my opinion, it does).

But what it does mean is that when some pathetic loser like Vialls pulls lies out of his sphincter just to push his own politics, people like you and me need to take a good, hard look at the facts before we buy anything from him.

Regards,


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Duncan Kunz / duncan.kunz@prodigy.net
Mesa AZ / 480-891-2525

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Duncan Kunz on 08-14-2001]

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Delphi
Mystic Warrior


S. Bossier, Louisiana
1583 posts, Mar 2001

posted 08-14-2001 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delphi   Visit Delphi's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duncan, Thank you for explaining the "triangles." It sounds right. I think some of us just got "snagged" on the "subliminal" stuff the guy was pushing out at us...and forgot to scrutinize the "Jew Bashing" aspects of it, which is absolutely horrible! I wish this world would stop "bashing" each other, period! I re-read the article on a less "foggy" day for me, and though I don't know anything about tanks and things, you seem knowledgeable. It is sad and awful to "bash" anyone or any peoples. You are correct in that. Blessings, Joanne

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