posted 09-27-2001 12:02 PM            

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110 stories and the top quarter is hit toward the outside edge.
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The firm who drew up the plans on the high rise- "factored" in structural failures and problems from outside forces, i.e. weather,earthquakes, even one comment on withstanding a plane.
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watching the video over and over, I segmented the planes out of the equation, that left me with just the smoking builings and then the collapse.
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watching the building collapse was unlike what would happen when that type of damage would occur, usually the top structure would collapse...a break off point.
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the buildings went down not at all unlike the controlled explostion of the demolition teams videos I have watched...not as precise, granted, but certainly close.
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..Would it be possible for a controlled explosion to have been planned?--possible
..Would'nt ANYONE notice the explosive being placed in the building, if indeed such a event could be orchesrated?
..No witnessess of course, but seems that Something such as planting explosives in a building of that magnitude and populated, would arise into problems.
..But, again I am torn between the absolute scary resemblence of the demolition theroy and the "cons" against it...

Any revelations in your opinion??

posted 09-27-2001 12:33 PM            

I too, thought it was amazing how WTC towers seemed to collapse straight down, like video we've seen of buildings being demolished with strategically placed explosives.

I heard it explained that the current bdlg codes don't require ability to extinguish jet fuel which requires foam, not whatever is sprayed from bldg sprinklers. And that extreme heat melted the core structures of the towers. I guess thats plausible.

There's no precedent for it I guess, because who has data on the effects of a jet-liner hitting a buildings like those at WTC? It's never happened before to my knowledge.

posted 09-27-2001 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by defender:
That occured to me too Skeebo. Like the OK City bombing, unreported evidence there shows evidence of internal explosions, also no bomb crater where the Ryder Truck bomb allegedly destroyed the building. That info is out there but I don't have a link to it now.

I too, thought it was amazing how WTC towers seemed to collapse straight down, like video we've seen of buildings being demolished with strategically placed explosives.

I heard it explained that the current bdlg codes don't require ability to extinguish jet fuel which requires foam, not whatever is sprayed from bldg sprinklers. And that extreme heat melted the core structures of the towers. I guess thats plausible.

There's no precedent for it I guess, because who has data on the effects of a jet-liner hitting a buildings like those at WTC? It's never happened before to my knowledge.

We also don't hear much about the 3? other bldgs destroyed on 9/11 around and part of WTC complex.


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Yes, and not wanting too jump to conclusions, I try and rationalize things such as
1. How could there be enough window of oppourtunity to place charges.
2. How many would be needed if this was the case
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My mind sees the building as being demolished because reputable scientists SAY- or we here reports of them saying-"The stuctures could not withstand the heat and intense flames"...but my eyes and mind find it odd that the building-ALL 110 stories-BOTH would collapse completely..I am somewhat troubled by this.
I believe I read on this board about High profile names were also absent on that day...like key players in money markets etc..
Not this has any revealancy on the above topic but something else that could fit into the picture later.
I assume thought that this would be roumor as was the missing arabs who worked there or the other nationalities who were absent.
In time as this it is easy to believe ALL the rhetoric and false demise.
--skeebo

posted 09-27-2001 01:22 PM            

Whoever was capable of hijacking 4 airliners at once, with 3 direct hits, and who allegedly planned this for 2-5 years in advance, would certainly be capable of breaching WTC security and maintenance departments to plant charges in the proper places, wouldn't they?

Why couldn't they have also obtained WTC ID's uniforms etc. Also heard the reports of terrorists using Ambulances and posing as EMT's.

Whatever the case, this was a very well-planned and executed operation by anyones standards, but then, so was the JFK assassination and subsequent cover-up.

posted 09-27-2001 02:38 PM            

What also comes to mind is the fleecing, and Docile attitude of most americans regarding situations that seem out of whack.

posted 09-27-2001 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Thermit:
Some interesting PDFs linked on Rense, written by structural engineers giving their takes on what they think happened. In the one that I read the guy doesn't even think the fire really played that much of a role. Just the stress on the building from losing an important part of the load bearing structure.
http://www.rense.com/general14/WTCfailureanalysis.pdf
http://www.hera.co.nz/PDF%20Files/World%20Trade%20Centre.pdf

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posted 09-27-2001 09:23 PM            

The site is now considered a crime scene .....only authorized personel are
allowed near it.

If explosives were used would this be
evident as the clean up progressed
to ground level?

posted 10-04-2001 03:45 PM            

Anyone take notice to the expression on Bush's face the moment he was notified of the 'attack' on WTC. He was at some childrens thing in Florida and it seemed to me he nodded his head knowingly.

But I'm probably delusional. After all, I figured it was an inside job from the start.

posted 10-04-2001 04:07 PM            

Remember during the collapse on 9/11 and the next day, media (FOX anyway) reported the collapse of at least 3 other buildings all apparently part of the WTC complex. They had schematics, showing the layout of WTC and all 7 buildings, as I recall. Why no more mention of those buildings?

posted 10-10-2001 07:18 PM            

FACT: The contractor whose people were the first on the WTC collapse scene --to cart away the rubble that remains-- is the same contractor who demolished and hauled away the shell of the bombed Oklahoma City Murrah building. The name of the contractor is Controlled Demolition! Their WTC cleanup contract is worth over $7 Billion. Are you getting the picture?

FACT: The expert widely reported as certain the WTC was demolished --who later changed his mind-- is a demolition explosives specialist from New Mexico Tech Institute. That's precisely where the people first on the Pentagon crash scene were trained. Tech was also a hot tip to get the contract for training the new Federal Air Marshals. Are you getting the picture?

FACT: Most of the World Trade Center changed hands in a $3.2 billion, 99-year lease deal that was concluded only seven weeks before the attack; with a sweetheart tax deal and new insurance covering buildings and rents -payable to new beneficiaries. Are you getting the picture?

TALL TALES OF
THE WAG MOVIE

Let's all hold on to our emotional hats. Let's stop reacting and stop overreacting.

We are MEANT to react in shock. The whole purpose of the audacious World Trade Center attack was to psych us out.

posted 10-10-2001 08:01 PM            

An interesting point made in the wagthewtc.com website is that the second plane did not make a direct hit on the tower, so a large portion of the jet fuel exploded outside of the building (huge fireball), yet it was the first building to collapse! The theory of jet fuel melting the core of the building doesn't sound so convincing now.