posted 10-10-2001 07:42 PM            

http://www.daywilliams.com/chronology_suspicious.html

http://www.skolnicksreport.com/shistory.html

posted 10-10-2001 08:27 PM            

"America And Its Allies
Would Never Attack America!

Now, hold it there! This is US military technology. We all surely know that the US and its allies would not conspire to attack America! Or do we?

The Army's School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS ) thinks Israel is capable of doing exactly that. On September 10, 2001, The Washington Times ran a front page story which quoted SAMS officers:

"Of the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS officers
say: 'Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target US
forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act.'" ("US troops
would enforce peace under Army study," Washington Times, Sept.. 10, 2001, pg. A1, 9.) Just 24 hours after this story appeared, the Pentagon was hit and the Arabs were being blamed.

These SAMS officers are obviously interested in protecting their
country, but not all Americans are. Some are traitors and pay
allegiance to Israel. Recall the June 8, 1967, Israeli attack on the
USS Liberty, and American complicity in the attack.

During the Six Day War, the Liberty, an American intelligence
gathering ship, was sailing in international waters. Israeli
aircraft and torpedo boats attacked it for 75 minutes.
http://ennes.org/jim/ussliberty/

When four US fighter jets from a nearby aircraft carrier came to
protect the Liberty, US Defense Secretary Robert McNamara ordered the jets NOT to come to the Liberty's aid, and allowed the Israeli attack to continue. Thirty-four Americans were killed and 171 wounded.
http://ennes.org/jim/ussliberty/chapter6.htm

Now consider Operation Northwoods: In 1962, US military leaders
designed a plan to conduct terrorist acts against Americans and blame Cuba, to create popular sentiment for invasion of that country.

Operation Northwoods included:

* Plans to shoot down a CIA plane designed to replicate a passenger flight and announce that Cuban forces shot it down.

* Creation of military casualties by blowing up a US ship in
Guantanamo Bay and blaming Cuba: "....casualty lists in the US
newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation," and

* Development of a terror campaign in the Miami and Washington, DC.

Information on Operation Northwoods can be found in James Bamford's "Body of Secrets," (Doubleday, 2001), and at the following URLs.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.md.nsa24apr24.story
http://www.earlham.edu/archive/opf-l/May-2001/msg00062.html
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

In other words, US allies and people within the US military
establishment are not opposed to killing American servicemen and
civilians, given the right goal.

Why Take Chances?

Put yourself in the shoes of the masterminds of Operation 911. The attacks had to be tightly coordinated. Four jets took off within 15 minutes of each other at Boston, Dulles, and Newark airports, and roughly two hours later, it was over. The masterminds couldn't afford to take needless chances."

posted 10-11-2001 05:01 PM            

Or it could be to take the heat off TPTB flunkies like Condit and Clinton, or it could be to bring us closer to a NWO, for better or worse.... or a combination of some or all of them or none of them? It's my opinion that Enemies of the U.S./Freedom are already well-entrenched within American society/government as they are anywhere power and wealth exist as they always have been.

Or it could be Israels attempt to do all of the above, like the tail wagging the dog with Israel being the tail, and the USA being the dog.

Or maybe The Powers That Be just decided it was time to knock the U.S.A. down a few notches to teach us a lesson? Maybe to show us that we are not invincible, and as Lincoln said, that you can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time....

Killing people to achieve anything has to be morally wrong. But the real world is in a constant state fluctuation between good and evil. Sometimes good wins, sometime evil wins in this physical world. I don't know what all 9/11 was about, but I'm sure that there is some truth in these threads.

posted 10-12-2001 07:06 AM            

Like the Gulf War eliminated political/public discussion of the Savings & Loan Crisis/Fraud/Rip-off, the current War on Terrorism can also be used to end any discussion of reform of those agencies.

Like the assassination/murders of JFK and hundreds of witnesses eliminated any discussion of the complete dismantling of the CIA (as JFK had suggested) AND the de-escalation and dis-involvement of U.S. participation in the Viet Nam war (as JFK had also ordered).

I can see a clear pattern here. Maybe I'm brain-washed? I want to believe in Bush. I like him and I liked his father. I want to believe what they're doing is for the benefit of the U.S., and maybe it is, but is it right? I have questions about these things like millions of other Americans, questions that go back at least 30 years that have never been answered.

Was it terrorists who organized the S&L Ripoff?, the JFK assassination, use of military hardware and weapons against American citizens at Waco? If it was hardliner former Soviets/KGB, or Chinese-backed politicians like clinton, or American or Russian mafia elements, why haven't we been told?

posted 10-12-2001 12:22 PM            

Scanner,

I'm sure I've only touched on a few things there, but they are the obvious ones to me. I'm probably misquoting that line from JFK movie. One things for sure, they are way more organized and maybe even more motivated than any one of us. (or is that my programming talking?!) They own the media/Hollywood/phony journalists and talk show hosts, and it seems they've got most of us thinking the way they want us to think.

Yes Penumbra, like those new shows you mentioned, you know they've been doing things like that for decades. Remember the old FBI show w/Efram Zimbalist Jr.? Boy was that way off! I'm dating myself there, but some of you over 40 remember it.

They also use seemingly innocuous 'sitcoms', late-night monologues and more blatant 'docu-dramas' to re-write history in the minds of people too young or too busy making a living to realize when they are being conned/programmed.

One good thing, I think is that we wouldn't know about any of this if it weren't for some of the good guys in U.S. military intelligence, and maybe even leaks from CIA, and help from foreign Intel groups? That's my take on it, for what it's worth. But we always seem to be a few steps, or should I say, a few years behind them?

Seems that all we can do is watch, talk about it and pray we don't get stomped on. (there goes my fear programming again?).

I have to believe there is a positive force at work behind the scenes, ultimately anyway. If I didn't, I probably wouldn't get out of bed in the morning!

posted 12-08-2001 02:44 PM            

Here's an excerpt from the link above;

Fifty-year-old Alistair Beckham was a successful British aerospace- projects engineer. His specialty was designing computer software for sophisticated naval defense systems. Like hundreds of other British scientists, he was working on a pilot program for America's Strategic Defense Initiative--better known as Star Wars. And like at least 21 of his colleagues, he died a bizarre, violent death.

It was a lazy, sunny Sunday afternoon in August 1988. After driving his wife to work, Beckham walked through his garden to a musty backyard toolshed and sat down on a box next to the door. He wrapped bare wires around his chest, attached the to an electrical outlet and put a handkerchief in his mouth. Then he pulled the switch.

With his death, Beckham's name was added to a growing list of British scientists who've died or disappeared under mysterious circumstances since 1982. Each was a skilled expert in computers, and each was working on a highly classified project for the American Star Wars program. None had any apparent motive for killing himself.

The British government contends that the deaths are all a matter of coincidence. The British press blames stress. Others allude to an ongoing fraud investigation involving the nation's leading defense contractor. Relatives left behind don't know what to think.

"There weren't any women involved. There weren't any men involved. We had a very good relationship," says Mary Beckham, Alistair's widow. "We don't know why he did it...if he did it. And I don't believe that he did do it. He wouldn't go out to the shed. There had to be something...."

The string of unexplained deaths can be traced back to March 1982, when Essex University computer scientist Dr. Keith Bowden died in a car wreck on his ay home from a London social function. Authorities claim Bowden was drunk. His wife and friends say otherwise.

Bowden, 45, was a whiz with super-computers and computer- controlled aircraft. He was cofounder of the Department of Computer Sciences at Essex and had worked for one of the major Star Wars contractors in England.

One night Bowden's immaculately maintained Rover careened across a four-lane highway and plunged off a bridge, down an embankment, into an abandoned rail yard. Bowden was found dead at the scene.

During the inquest, police testified that Bowden's blood alcohol level had exceeded the legal limit and that he had been driving too fast. His death was ruled accidental.

Wife Hillary Bowden and her lawyer suspected a cover-up. Friends he'd supposedly spent the evening with denied that Bowden had been drinking. Then there was the condition of Bowden's car.

"My solicitor instructed an accident specialist to examine the automobile," Mrs. Bowden explains. "Somebody had taken the wheels off and put others on that were old and worn. At the inquest this was not allowed to be brought up. Someone asked if the car was in a sound condition, and the answer was yes."

Hillary, in a state of shock, never protested the published verdict. Yet, she remains convinced that someone tampered with her husband's car. "It certainly looked like foul play," Hillary maintains.

Four years later the British press finally added Bowden's case to its growing dossier. First, there appeared to be two interconnected deaths, then six, then 12--suddenly there were 22.

posted 02-25-2002 08:31 PM            

I remember there being a nationwide media smear campaign against John Tower during the 2 weeks prior to his plane crash.

Apparently the smear campaign didn't work, so they went to plan 'B'?

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/famous90-00.htm

There's some other interesting data in there. Like the deaths of 2 people, inventors of contact eye implants (American) followed some time later by the death of the Russian inventor of radial kerototmy(?).