posted 09-12-2003 11:46 AM            

Its easy..Its called BRAGGING.

The elite love to brag and who is to say one of their minions werent present while the mural was being painted.

All the masonic cues in the airport are pretty shady too if you ask me.

Don't think for a minute that the elites dont want to cut down on "EXESS POPULATION"..they admit it and I believe s part of their NWO goals.

Kind of like how BUSH SR. announced "A NEW WORLD ORDER"..on SEPT 11th 1990 and 11 years later(11 representing the twin towers) on the same day..disaster happens.

Not a coincidence.

I think those murals tell of a grim future we all face unless we expose AND DEPOSE these F***ers once and for all.

posted 09-17-2003 10:35 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Mech:

. . . and who is to say one of their minions werent present while the mural was being painted.

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Who’s to say that you aren’t being excessively paranoid over this.

What is more likely?

A representative from some mysterious group of “elites” overseeing the painting of a mural by a well known social activist painter to ensure that some sort of “brag” is incorporated into the painting

Or

A well known Chicano painter who is also a social activist paints a mural in an established style that is about exactly what he says it is: a warning on possible environmental catastrophes.

posted 09-17-2003 12:49 PM            

I see all the Masonic symobology in the airport and the weird phrases etched into the passageways.

Do you think they are there by "accident" too?

I see it as bragging.

And what is NEW WORLD AIRPORT commission?
Sound very GLOBALIST if you ask me.

If you studied elites throughout history you would understand.

It's easy...They could have simply told him what they want and had one of their minions there at the time to oversee the mural..after all..he was getting paid to do a job.

If you want to continue to believe that they are incapable of doing no wrong..be my guest...it's still a free country...FOR NOW.
But with the PATRIOT ACT and DOMESTIC SECURITY ENHANCEMENT ACT, in the "HOMELAND" you can never be too sure.

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posted 09-17-2003 04:28 PM            

And I dont see how it would make much of a difference.

For all I know there could be a HUGE undeground base underneath it..preparing for god knows what. It took an awfully long time to build it, and from what I have read...they were VERY secretive about it.

Its MY RIGHT to question what those murals and suspicious masonic stones, statues and scriblings all mean.

I find it all HIGHLY suspicious..period. The elites are obsessed with the occult and numerology..what is in Denver Airport fits that "shoe".

posted 09-17-2003 04:46 PM            

My explanation may be just as valid as your own.

I don't think they are telling us the truth..in more ways than one.

Get over it.

posted 09-17-2003 10:01 PM            

Surely you know that there are underground bases? http://mysite.freeserve.com/nuclear_bunkers/norad.html

Speaking of underground. I saw something pretty cool recently - check this out:

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posted 09-18-2003 01:19 PM            

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Originally posted by JerseyBluEyz:
I read somewhere that when the artists were first interviewed, they admitted to following guidelines for the murals.

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I am sure that they were given guidelines. I wonder what they were. Lets see, maybe they went something like this:

The mural has to be 10’x15’ in size.

It has to be in a medium suitable for the environmental conditions of the site.

The art should be suitable to the setting and appropriate for the viewing public (i.e. no nudes)

What difference does it make that they were given guidelines. Guidelines are just that, guidelines. It is the artists interpretation of those guidelines that makes the essence of creativity.

posted 09-18-2003 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Mech:
And what is your point?

My explanation may be just as valid as your own.

I don't think they are telling us the truth..in more ways than one.

Get over it.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mech on 09-17-2003]

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No, mech, the difference between my explanation and yours is that mine is simple, and devoid of all the unproven assumptions that cloud yours.

First and foremost, there is no “they,” there is just you, me, the Artist, the pipe fitter that welded the pipes, the laborer that poured the concrete, the architect that designed the concourse, the locally elected government officials that sat through hours of boring meeting and ultimately approved the airport project and so on and so on.

If we lived in Denver, these people would be our neighbors, just the same as you and me. Some of them might live in nicer houses than you or I, but ultimately we are all the same. There is no mysterious group of “elites” running things. Oh, sure there are groups of businessmen and corporate interests that get behind and support projects like DIA, because it is in their economic interest to do so. Over time the economic power base shifts as new businesses and new technologies are developed. That is how things work. It was the same way when the Railways controlled the development of the West. Where are all those railway tycoons now?

I will repeat this one more time: There is no group of “Elite” running things.

posted 09-18-2003 01:50 PM            

YES THERE IS AN "ELITE"

They are called "illuminati" or "the dark agenda" or "bliderbergs" or CFR/TC/WTO/IMF..etc..ad nauseaum.

They infest Federal, State and local governments.

That's a FACT jack.

You want to still "live in the matrix"..aka "la la TV land" and think everything is normal and happy in leave-it-to-beaver America be my guest..that's YOUR choice.

REAL Patriots ask questions...especially a false paradigm created BY Elitists.

No wool over these eyes thanks.

posted 09-18-2003 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Mech:

They infest Federal, State and local governments.

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Local governments too, huh?

posted 09-18-2003 03:15 PM            

With some luck one day you will understand.

Sometimes you just have to put on the right glasses.

http://www.theylivenow.co.uk/audio/thesellout.mp3

posted 09-18-2003 05:07 PM            

[YES THERE IS AN ELITE

They are called "illuminati" or "the dark agenda" or "bliderbergs" or CFR/TC/WTO/IMF..etc..ad nauseaum.

They infest Federal, State and local governments.

That's a FACT jack.]

[QUOTE] :

John Fitzgerald Kennedy Columbia University, 10 days before his assassination

[The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the Americans freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight.]

posted 09-18-2003 05:22 PM            

Why do you care what others think about politics, religion, art, music, etc.? If a person says something that bothers you to the point where you have a need to attack, you do so because you realize - on a subconscious level - that you yourself are not acknowledging the truth of a situation. You are actually mad at yourself so you lash out at others around you. Most people prefer to stay in their comfort zone. Its what they know, its what they’re used to, and they know what to expect. I’m not just talking about your views of the Illuminati or the elite groups – I’m talking about all aspects of your reality.

posted 09-18-2003 08:59 PM            

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Originally posted by JerseyBluEyz:
Wolf_Larson
Why are you all of a sudden going around the board baiting people? I noticed you trying to bait Ellyn in a couple of threads and now you’re here doing the same thing. What’s up with you? No one here is telling you what to think – people are allowed to have opinions – no?

I don't care for Ellyn's opinions. and I am simply expressing my opinion on her beliefs. Do you agree with her?

Why do you care what others think about politics, religion, art, music, etc.? If a person says something that bothers you to the point where you have a need to attack, you do so because you realize - on a subconscious level - that you yourself are not acknowledging the truth of a situation. You are actually mad at yourself so you lash out at others around you. Most people prefer to stay in their comfort zone. Its what they know, its what they’re used to, and they know what to expect. I’m not just talking about your views of the Illuminati or the elite groups – I’m talking about all aspects of your reality.

WOW, you really read a lot into a couple of post. What do you really know about me that you can state my views so unequivicly?

BTW, when I said they painted by guidelines – they were given “themes” to paint. You’re right, it does not matter if they painted by guidelines or not and no one said that it did. And you’re right again, that is some “fine” artwork that brings forth all manner of feelings associated with shock, disgust, outrage, repulsion, horror, etc. Very explicit work!

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posted 09-18-2003 09:11 PM            

Larson: "There is no mysterious group of “elites” running things."

Oh really?????

"A more controlled and directed society will evolve, one where the elite will not hesitate to achieve it’s political goals by using the most modern techniques for influencing the public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control."

–former National Security advisor under Jimmy Carter, Zbigniew Berzezinski

"There are a lot of very brilliant people who believe that the nation-state is fast becoming a relic of the past."

-President Clinton,
New York Times, November 25, 1997

"The developing coherence of Asian regional thinking is reflected in a disposition to consider problems and loyalties in regional terms, and to evolve regional approaches to development needs and to the evolution of a NEW WORLD ORDER."

-Richard Nixon, in Foreign Affairs (October 1967)

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a NEW WORLD ORDER where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."

-George Herbert Walker Bush
Sept 11th 1990

"What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a NEW WORLD ORDER...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based upon shared principles and the rule of law.... The ILLUMINATION of a thousand points of light.... The winds of change are with us now."

President George Bush
In his State of the Union message during the Gulf War.

"My country's history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a NEW WORLD ORDER."

Henry Kissinger,
(in address before the General Assembly of the United Nations, October 1975

"This regionalization is in keeping with the Tri-Lateral Plan which calls for a gradual convergence of East and West, ultimately leading toward the goal of ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. National sovereignty is no longer a viable concept."

Zbignew Brzezinski, National Security Advisor
to President Jimmy Carter

"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a NEW WORLD ORDER."

Mikhail Gorbachev,
in an address at the United Nations (December 1988)

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the RIGHT MAJOR CRISIS and the nations will accept the NEW WORLD ORDER."

David Rockefeller

"The case for government by ELITES is irrefutable"

Senator William Fulbright,
Former chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
stated at a 1963 symposium entitled:
The Elite and the Electorate - Is Government by the People Possible?

"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the NEW WORLD ORDER ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people."

H. G. Wells,
in his book entitled The New World Order (1939)

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe that there would be a revolution before morning. And that revolution would be based around the FEDERAL RESERVE."

Henry Ford

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from BEHIND THE SCENES."

Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

"Being a Nazi was "politically correct." They called themselves "The Children of the New Age of World Order" and looked down their noses at everyone else. As Hitler acquired more power, he referred to his critics as "The Dark Forces of Anarchy and Hatred." Anyone who questioned Nazi high-handedness in the German press was branded a "Conservative Reactionary." Joseph Goebbels, minister of communications, proclaimed a "NEW WORLD ORDER."

A quote from Washington Times, June 7, 1998

"Whatever the PRICE of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The social experiment in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history."

David Rockefeller, statement in 1973 about Mao Tse-tung: (NY Times 8-10-73)

(Yes MAO slaughtered millions, disarmed HIS population and Rockafeller praises him.)

NAH!! There are no mysterious group of "Elites".

ROFLMAO!!!

Some folks will never be able to put 2 and 2 together.

As for me...I'll take the red pill.

posted 09-18-2003 10:15 PM            

Why stop there? Seeker called me a "commie" "scum" and "traitor" some months back and

Fastwalker called me a "liberal."

I could give a hoot.

I took a US Military Constitutional oath...

they NEVER did.

posted 09-18-2003 10:26 PM            

they NEVER did.

posted 09-18-2003 10:31 PM            

Show me.

I was pointing out the obvious FACT that they considered ME UN-american for questioning this CORRUPT government and globalist NWO system they are setting up... and yet they never served a day in the armed forces.

posted 09-18-2003 10:49 PM            

your own words
I took the constitutional oath...

they NEVER did.

tough???