posted 11-07-2001 12:13 PM            

I can relate to your feelings, except that I think you over-reacted to KnewEyes. I don't think KE's response to Lulu was giving what Lulu said any credibility.

I am kind of surprised by Lulu's support of TS, yeah, it's a funny picture, but the fact that it was directed at Dj, who IMO is speaking the truth here, makes it 'unfunny'. Seekers use of jpg's to ridicule people is his trademark. Like I've said before, when the going gets tough, the 'tough' post funny pictures. If they can't argue a point logically or ethically, they turn to ridicule and more recently in Duncans case, slander.

I agree with Dj again as far at TS using his 'David analogy' as another poorly-disguised attempt at mudslinging and attacking the 'David' that is a senior member here. Debunkers have been used for centuries to hide the truth with these tactics/attacks/slander against the whistleblowers and good guys.

Aside from this Chemtrail issue, they've been used in earlier debates related to satanism and even child pornography and organized crime. Thanks to these 'debunkers', there are millions of people who would deny even the existence of those criminals, thus allowing them to continue their evil ways with lesser scrutiny and public support for legitimate investigations into their crimes and far fewer arrests/sentencing for their damned, sorry souls.

In these cases, these criminals have used 'debunkers' they control via use of money/bribery/status, blackmail and threats against the 'debunkers' themselves. Many of the 'debunkers' are satanists, child molesters or are in some other way involved in organized crime.

posted 11-07-2001 12:27 PM            

I remember David Carlson from a year or so ago on a different board (Carnicom) and all the things he said~ most of which had little to do with chemtrails~ rather he was preoccupied that the police were following him around with spy sattelites and helicopters and such, and he claimed to be a child molestor.I pretty much figured he was on that board to make any legitamate visitor uncomfortable with the site~ so they would associate chemtrails with really wierd people and figure it was all just a kook show afterall.

However the David we all know here, and that I know personally is NOT david carlson, IS concerned strongly about chemtrails, never talked about being followed around by police eyes in the sky, and if you knew him as i do,you would know the two davids are not the same. Heck you would not even have to know him just follow the TWO DIFFERENT Davids posts for a day.

posted 11-07-2001 12:46 PM            

I meant what I said, "We report...you decide."

Although it's technically against the rules, it is possible for people to register under more than one name here.

TML was also eraserdude
cydoniaquest was also Jedi Master
nsasucks was also freedomsinger
injun was also Okie Farmer
Delphi is also Deltastarr
Deb is also nodebbunker

That's not a complete list--just a few I can remember quickly. So it is legitimate to be aware that one person may be posting under two different names. (To be fair to Deb, she forgot that her other handle was still active when she re-registered.)

posted 11-07-2001 12:46 PM            

The profiles of other partners who choose to collaborate with us or to publish on, or to link to DS4 show that this is not an isolated opinion.

In this same sense I am proud to be a member of this board.
Of course, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Especially nowadays.

posted 11-07-2001 09:55 PM            

That is part of moderation duties Delphi, to be on the look out for any "funny business" including deceptive posters. If you don't like all the "creeps" here Delphi, well you know what you can do, leave politely.

posted 11-07-2001 10:33 PM            

It was Lulu, not me, who suggested that Delphi and scanner were one-and-the-same. We are both moderators, but Lulu and I are two different people.

And, for whatever reason, Delphi does have a second ID on this board, Deltastarr.

This discussion seems to be headed in the wrong direction, so I'll be going to bed now. 'Nite.

posted 11-08-2001 01:49 AM            

and duncan did'nt call david a blankety blank...it was an analogy....a comparison in the hypathetical...

I think duncan is getting roasted for what you interpret as what he said....whew....

some comments :

and a timely, growing number of debunkers...amber

really...I would not even posted here if history would not needed to be served...and I like the term skeptic...dear...

theseeker has been very active on both these message boards, as has Duncan Kunz~ they both know these TWO DIFFERENT Davids, there is no reason to "accidently" confuse the two~ it has to be on purpose mark sky

I don't know what he was thinking when he posted...the possibility I infer is credible by your own statement....and "very active"...I'm just trying to catch you chief, seeker 779, mark sky 1410....

Seekers use of jpg's to ridicule people is his trademark. defender

I got skills.....

(edited for satirical content 347,902 by theseeker)

btw,lighten up fellas, dj accused me of intentionally posting false information...which is a lie...

but hey, I consider the source...and forgetta bout it...

T/S

posted 11-08-2001 08:31 AM            

However, it seems like this is a good time to reiterate the Forum Rules, which everybody agreed to follow when they signed up:

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Those who aren't sure, want to learn more, or don't acknowledge the reality of Chemtrails are also invited to participate.

Please show respect for your fellow posters. Rudeness and derision may be grounds for loss of posting rights at the discretion of the administrator. Messages may be moved if they do not conform to the purpose of each individual forum...

Multiple login IDs are not allowed. If for some reason you would like to change IDs, please inform the forum admin. We are not obligated to remove your ID under any circumstances, however your ID may be restricted if you are found to be in violation of the forum rules.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this baord, or you have permission to use said material.

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posted 11-08-2001 09:44 AM            

I could give a rats ass if Delphi has 2 names, and whether she is scanner or not. I see Scanner as a totally benign presence at the forums. Also I had mistakenly thought that if there were problems of duel identity here that the monitors of the board would handle it in a mature, professional way behind the scenes, with private emails and messages to the "offending" person, instead of posting in the public forums with intentions to humiliate. Guess I was wrong.

posted 11-09-2001 12:37 AM            

let's relfect...dj sez :

The one calling themselves "theseeker" routinely makes up ridiculous slander and epithets about any of various members of chemtrail boards, then posts these statements as "stealth attacks" where others (not necessarily those he's insulting) will easily be able to read them.

I asked dj for a example and he...disappeared...as usual...hit and run the phrase I believe....

with no provocation these attacks were inflicted on me...and instead of going off on him, simply...I felt the finger from Liberty...was appropriate...

T/S

posted 11-09-2001 01:23 PM            

Mark Sky, thanks for clarifying that about the 'Davids'. I never thought they were the same. Many of us know that CON-trail artists sometimes use the names of chemtrail activists or someone they dislike so they can promote more disinformation. I've tried to use my name;defender, and found it was already taken at other chemsites.

Sometimes it's necessary to use different monikers if the one you use has been taken.

As far as the child molesting thing goes, people who have been victimized in some way and survived, like Delphi, David (and in some ways, me)... have a very negative reaction to someone using that term lightly or in a threatening maner. It's not something we care to think about or remember. Delphi and I have both discussed the issue several months ago here at CTC, so the use of it by Duncan and Seeker may well likely have been used to 'push our buttons', or bait us, so to speak? I think that may account for Delphis unusually angry posts as of late, (and mine for that matter). She also has to deal with her husbands health problems, (3T3, I'm sure you can sympathize? Didn't your husband have a problem lately?) etc. Delphi has a lot on her plate, bless her little heart.

I hope some of the members can understand that and cut us some slack. We were not the ones who brought it up as an attack against an unsuspecting member or members of this forum.

BTW, I know that David and Delphi can speak for themselves. I just needed to make that clear to anyone might want to make some sense of this.

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PS, I need to give Lulu a wedgie!!