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Molliani
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Illinois
422 posts, Mar 2001

posted 11-06-2001 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Militia leader killed, deputy wounded during attemped arrest
Associated Press/The Arizona Republic
Nov. 06, 2001 12:20:00

William Cooper's Web site

HOTT - Hour of the Time

Background articles

May 2001: Tim McVeigh listened to militia-inspired Arizona broadcaster

Feb., 1995: Militias see threat in Arizona EAGAR - A national leader of the militia movement has been killed and an Apache County sheriff's deputy wounded in a shootout, authorities said.

William Milton Cooper, 58, of Eager, had hosted a talk show broadcast on the Worldwide Christian Radio out of Nashville, which receives it via phone from his home in St. Johns. He had millions of listeners worldwide, including Timothy McVeigh.

The deputy, whose name was being withheld by authorities, was shot twice in the head while trying to arrest Cooper, a state Department of Public Safety spokesman said today. Cooper was killed by another officer.

Several deputies were attempting to arrest Cooper, who was armed with a handgun, said Officer Steve Volden, a spokesman for the DPS, which was investigating the shooting.

He said details of the shooting would be released later today.

The deputy was in critical condition at a Phoenix hospital early today, Volden said.

Cooper was one of the most widely known prophets of the "patriot movement," railing at the federal government and talking of doomsday omens in his radio broadcast.

McVeigh, who was executed in May for the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City, listened to Cooper's broadcasts for inspiration, according to testimony by James Nichols, brother of Oklahoma bombing co-defendant Terry Nichols during a 1996 pretrial hearing.

Like some other patriot leaders, Cooper refused to get a driver's license or pay federal income taxes, saying he is willing to risk getting ticketed and has found a legal way to avoid the taxes.

The patriot movement grew during the 1990s, fed by a series of news events - the siege of Randy Weaver in Idaho, the raid on the Branch Davidians near Waco, Texas and the signing of gun-control laws.

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 11-06-2001 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this the William Cooper who is connected somehow with Jay Reynolds?
http://williamcooper.com/

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Deb
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Plainfield, Indiana USA
163 posts, Oct 2001

posted 11-06-2001 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, 3. Although Jay didn't necessarily agree with all of Mr. Cooper's ideas, Jay is a journalist for Veritas.

I think the important thing now is for no one to jump to conclusions about what happened. (But I know how many assumptions are going to be made about the situation.)

Edited for inclusion of URL: http://www.azfamily.com/cgi-bin/news/news50.pl?id=loc13289.txt&action=article

I also would like to add that Mr. Cooper, from another incident similar not that long ago, knew that this day was coming. This was not the first time his home or property was approached by law enforcement. It's one of those things that you know will eventually happen but you're still shocked when it does.

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3T3L1
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Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 11-06-2001 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll try not to jump to conclusions, Deb, but it sounds like those officers must've taken their training with the Lubbock SWAT team. (The same one which fatally shot one of their own while trying to take an unarmed man into custody this summer.)

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Ellyn
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1242 posts, Jul 2000

posted 11-06-2001 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
William Cooper wrote the following books, among his other writings:

1) Behold A Pale Horse
2) Oklahoma City: Day One

I read Behold A Pale Horse and recommend it.
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Correction: The publishing company, Harvest Trust, founded by William Cooper, published the book: OKLAHOMA CITY: Day One, "the definitive classic on the Oklahoma City bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building on April 19, 1995," written by Michele Marie Moore.

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Molliani
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Illinois
422 posts, Mar 2001

posted 11-06-2001 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Molliani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ellyn
I haven't read any of the book's by
Cooper. I know you can pick them
up on the used book sites on the net.
By the way, Oklahoma City: Day One,
was written by Michelle Moore.

It's been so long since I've heard
Cooper on the radio. His sarcasm and
ridicule of his listeners annoyed me and
I felt sorry for his wife and children - who
had to suffer his tantrums. He must
have been a very troubled person, may
he rest in peace.

I received the follwoing email from a
friend - forwarded from a friend etc....

Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:12 PM
Subject: I-P: Cooper's death UNRELATED to warrants

Dear Folks:

It will be extremely easy for people to get worked up about this situation. But please understand that Bill Cooper's death was UNRELATED to any of the federal warrants pending for his arrest.

His own website, run by his trusted webmaster:

http://williamcooper.com

says as much. Here is the text of the current announcement:

- - - - - - - - - - -
Updated: Tuesday, November 6th, 2001, 2:20 PM

In Loving Memory

With a deep sense of loss and mourning we announce the passing of William Cooper.

It appears at this time to be totally unrelated to the disputes he had with the federal government. All we know at this time is that he was shot and killed by an Apache County Sheriff around 12:15 AM this morning while serving of an arrest warrant on a local issue. A sheriff was also wounded.

Remain Calm! This is in no way a cause for action, but all patriots should be on high alert at this time.

Do NOT listen to or spread undocumented and unconfirmed RUMORS! If it is not here it is not confirmed as fact. Updates will be posted here as they become available.

We MUST all remember his love of freedom, America, the Constitution and the values it is founded on.

We also have this report from the old man -- (whose name I cannot recall off the top of my head) -- who runs the Eagar, Arizona weekly newspaper. He publishes it out of his dining room. It is the only paper published in Eagar. I have met this man myself. Bill introduced me to him the last time I was in Arizona. The old guy is deeply patriotic and would neither make up a story, nor embellish it, nor diminish it. He just always tells things as he sees them.

Before anyone makes too big of a deal out of this incident, you might as well know what the people on the ground in Eagar are saying. Here is the small bit of info from the local news guy:

Apparently, Cooper had gone into town and was waving his gun around. He'd gone off the handle for some
reason or something and the local police figured they had to do something before he ended up hurting
someone.

This I find *completely* believable. I knew Cooper extremely well. We worked together VERY closely for several years. I saw him at his best, and I saw him at his worst. And I saw his volatility, the times when he was drunk and disorderly, the times when he behaved irresponsibly,..... all of those ugly things that make up "real life." I also saw him noble and selfless and giving.

But Bill did have a dark and uncontrollable side. No question about it. This does not mean that he was not a good patriot, or that he did not teach and help a lot of people. I'm sure he did.

But to turn this death -- which was so needless and for nothing -- into a martyrdom, or to say that the feds did it, is unrealistic and irresponsible. It is also irresponsible to even suggest that the militias "do something about it." I'm sorry, but the circumstances that can be clarified about the situation simply do not merit ANY response other than sympathy to his family. And it is irresponsible for the Sierra Times to claim that Bill's death was the result of a SWAT raid. This was simply not the case.

From all that can be known locally at the scene at this time, the situation was nothing more than Bill out of control in a public place while armed.
And if you've ever been around Bill when he is out of control, you'd call the cops, too. Believe me! You would! Bill out of control is dangerous. Bill out of control with his handgun is deadly. That's the truth. Any one who ever knew him closely will absolutely confirm this.

In this situation, we'll probably find that the police acted responsibly, and Bill, for all his good points and bad, died for nothing.

Michele Marie Moore
Author, "Oklahoma City: Day One"

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 11-06-2001 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I for one will miss his outspoken view on things...he said what he thought no matter whose toes got stepped on...something I find rare....

his bio at his site is quite a read....

T/S

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Lulu
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right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 11-06-2001 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I've been lost in his site for the past couple of hours seeker, an eyeful for sure.

I also enjoyed Behold a Pale Horse Ellyn.

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Ellyn
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1242 posts, Jul 2000

posted 11-09-2001 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read William Cooper's book BEHOLD A PALE HORSE several years ago, but one chapter that has continued to stand out in my mind is Chapter 14 entitled:

A PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL MODEL FOR THE NEWSTATES OF AMERICA, Prepared Over a 10-Year Period by the Center for Democratic Studies of Santa Barbara, California, at a Total Cost to the United States Taxpayers of Over $25 Million

The entire constitutional model is printed out here. Cooper's book was published in 1991, so this constitutional model was created prior to that time.


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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 11-10-2001 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more news here http://pub8.ezboard.com/fchemtrailschemtrails.showMessage?topicID=5522.topic

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Deb
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Plainfield, Indiana USA
163 posts, Oct 2001

posted 11-10-2001 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, I have yet to see anyone mention Cooper's view of "chemtrails" especially the link on his website. If I'm not mistaken, it was Bill who got Jay involved in the first place.

So, since most people who posr here are convinced that Jay's an agent, and I'm an agent and the other debunkers are agents, then what does that make the late William Cooper?

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Contrails - the signature of freedom and commerce

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 11-10-2001 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's just a link to Jay Reynolds' site, Deb.

Why, when he was so suspicious of government in other areas, didn't Mr. Cooper think the government was doing something sinister with chemtrails? Did Jay talk him out of it?

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mark sky
bin Rydin


SW coast of Oregon
1089 posts, Jun 2001

posted 11-10-2001 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mark sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"chemtrailz~ the signature of lost freedom and complacency"
tho so proudly they wagged
the trails came anyway
from the dawns early crumbleing
of the wourld trade towers
only military linz were seen in the skies
by the way
Thermit~ why is "deb" here?

THIS IS THE BUILDING IN QATAR WHERE
THE WORLD TRADE ORGANISATION IS MEETING
TO FURTHER CONTROL THE GLOBAL ECONOMY...

...REMIND YOU OF ANYTHING??

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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


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1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 11-15-2001 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the link to William Coopers website. I haven't looked at this link til today. I've read some of the Pale Horse book in a bookstore once. Very interesting stuff. I didn't know he was involved in militias until now, or that this William Cooper was the one who wrote that book.

His books alone were reason enough for him to be on someones 'hit list'. His temper may or may not have been drug-induced?



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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL


Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000

posted 11-19-2001 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for defender     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may not be pertinent, but I was watching something last night on the History Channel? about how the Captain of the U.S.S. Indianpolis was made the scapegoat for the ship having been sunk by a Japanese submarine. This was the ship that delivered one of the atomic bombs used on Japan.

It was also made famous by the movie Jaws because the majority of the crew were eaten by sharks with very few survivors.

Anyway, the Navy failed to notice or form any rescue effort for 3 days!, so they ended up blaming the ships captain who ended up committing suicide. Seems that members of his crew and family are still trying to clear his name, which happens to be McVey!

A different spelling, but another patsy just the same as Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City!

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