posted 11-26-2001 03:12 PM            

- Steve

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From the PGR (Mexican Department Of Justice) official web site comes an interesting story.

As reported in La Vox De Aztlan, two men, one of them a former Israeli Colonel and Mossad agent, were arrested INSIDE the Mexican congress carrying 9mm pistols and dynamite, but were released following intense pressure from the Israeli Embassy.

Army General and Head of the PGR Releases Two Israelis
Arrested With Guns and Explosives Inside the Mexican Congress
By Ernesto Cienfuegos La Voz de Aztlan
October 15, 2001

LOS ANGELES (ACN) - In a mind-blowing development, La Voz de Aztlan has learned that Mexican Army General Rafael Marcial Macedo de la Concha who heads the Procuraduría General de la República (Mexican Department of Justice) has released the retired Israeli Defense Forces colonel and presumed MOSSAD agent Salvador Guersson Smecke and Israeli illegal immigrant Saur Ben Zvi after both had penetrated the security of the Mexican Congress and where in possession of guns, hand grenades and explosives.

This morning La Voz de Aztlan had a personal telephone interview with the Mexican Congressional Press Secretary, Lic. Adriana Lopez, and verified the arrest of the two Israelis after they had entered through the highly secured front entrance of the Palacio Legislativo de San Lázaro. She stated to La Voz de Aztlan that the two terrorists had taken advantage of a situation that occurred around 1700 hours of Wednesday October 10 when a large contingent of Sugar Industry Unionists were entering through the metal detectors. The two Israelis followed about 50 of the unionists to the office of the President of the Mexican Congress Beatriz Paredes. The two Israelis were first pretending to be press photographers but called the attention of the sugar unionists because of their nervous and out of the ordinary behavior. About ten of the unionists confronted them and observed that they were carrying guns and and what looked to them to be explosives. They held the two Israelis until Official Congressional Security personnel took them into custody. The head of Congressional Security Salvador Alarcón verified that the Israelis had in their possession nine hand grenades, sticks of dynamite, detonators, wiring and two 9mm "Glock" automatics.

Mexican Congressional Press Secretary Lic. Adriana Lopez informed La Voz de Aztlan in the telephone interview that Congressional Security then turned the terrorists Salvador Guersson Smecke, age 34, and Saur Ben Zvi, age 27, to the Procuraduría General de la República (Mexican Department of Justice) which is headed by Mexican Army General Rafael Marcial Macedo de la Concha. Initial reports by the Procuraduría General de la República (PGR) were that both Israelis worked for a private security agency and that they both had gun permits. It turned out that there is no connection of either suspect to any private security agency. The PGR has released the retired Israeli I.D.F. colonel with the official explanation that he had a legal permit to carry a gun. They also released the illegal Israeli immigrant on about $4000 bail and the case turned over to the Mexican immigration authorities. Mexican Congressional Press Secretary Lic. Adriana Lopez was surprised to hear from La Voz de Aztlan of the release of the two Israelis.

La Voz de Aztlan has also learned that the Israeli Embassy used heavy handed measures to have the two Israelis released. Very high level emergency meetings took place between Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Jorge Gutman, General Macedo de la Concha and a top Ariel Sharon envoy who flew to Mexico City specially for that purpose. Elías Luf of the Israeli Embassy worked night and day and their official spokeswoman Hila Engelhart went into high gear after may hours of complete silence. What went one during those high levels meetings no ones knows, but many in Mexico are in disbelief at their release. Guns and any kind of explosive is highly illegal for Mexican citizens and the fact that these two Israelis had them inside the Mexican Congress makes their release highly suspect. What is really going on? Jorge Gutman, the Mexican Foreign Secretary, has very strong Zionist connections and himself is of Jewish descent. Mexican Army General Macedo de la Concha has strong connections to the U.S. Military Industrial-Complex and through this to the Israeli Defense Forces. Have any of these connections influenced the decision to release the two Zionist terrorists?

The initial arrests of the two Israelis inside the Palacio Legislativo de San Lázaro made top news on Mexico City television and radio on the evening of October 10. TV Azteca had extensive coverage on the first night and on the following day. La Cronica de Hoy Newspaper and El Universal Newspaper both covered the incident the following two days but now it seems that there is a lack of reports. The PGR has a Press Bulletin on their official website at but they have made no updates. No U.S. media has made any mention, that we know, except one by USAJewish.com this Sunday at: Pravda of Moscow has a note of the initial La Voz de Aztlan article at:

What were the Israelis up to? We think we know. The Vicente Fox government has been very careful of involving Mexico in a war against Islam. The Mexican population as well as the two major opposition political parties, the PRI and the PRD will not allow it. President Bush and the U.S. Zionists want Mexico fully involved in the war principally because if things get tough in the middle east and the oil rich Arabs leave the coalition, the U.S. military machine is going to need alternative sources of oil and PEMEX is just across the border. We believe that the two Zionists terrorist were going to blow up the Mexican Congress. The second phase was to mobilize both the Mexican and US press to blame Osama bin Laden. Most likely then Mexico would declare war on Afghanistan as well, commit troops and all the oil it could spare to combat Islamic terrorism.


COMMENT

From Mario Andrade
mario.mx@verizon.net
11-26-1

Hello Jeff,

I want to congratulate you in every way for posting the articles on your website. When I read the article about the Mossad agents caught trying to bomb the Mexican congress, I almost jumped out of my chair. I was SHOCKED. I couldn't believe it, so I went to the PGR website and verified it.

IT'S ALL TRUE! It's 100% accurate! You've nailed it! The guys that learned about this should get an award for reporting it. This proves your suspicions about Mossad involvement, or at least knowledge about 9-11. Do you remember the group of Israelis taking pictures and video from a roof top as the twin towers were burning to the ground? I could be wrong, but I believed you mentioned that during a Barry Chamish's appearance in your program.

WHERE ARE THE MAJOR NEWS NETWORKS ON THIS? They are all too busy promoting the Time-Warner-AOL-CNN Harry Potter movie or reporting on "the anthrax scare" (they call it scare because they're the ones scaring people). It's amazing how we can better rely on websites like yours for accurate news. It seems like we need to dig the truth out on our own all the time.

This media blackout is nothing less than the New World Order at work. Here we have two Israelis with explosives, grenades and guns caught inside the legislative chamber of the Mexican congress, and yet, NOTHING is mentioned in the news; not even in Mexico.

Without a doubt, these two suspects will be released. The PGR (Attorney General) website in Mexico does not list in "plain language" the charges for the suspects. It lists the "penal codes". They are the following: Violation of articles 123 and 143 of the General Law of Population in accordance with the sixth and seventh dash 1, 8, 9, and 13 of the federal penal code. This means that unless you're a lawyer in Mexico, you won't have any clue as for what they mean. This is how they let criminals go free all the time. Those codes could be bogus or made up, but the population is so dumbed down and ignorant that they will buy this without bothering to question it.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HEADING IN AMERICA: TOTAL IGNORANCE AND SUBMISSIVENESS OF THE POPULATION AND TOTAL CONTROL OF THOSE IN POWER.

Please keep up the excellent work and thanks for informing us about what's really going on.

Best wishes,

Mario Andrade

posted 11-26-2001 03:36 PM            

Babelfish translation:

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THE PGR INFORMS ON THE SITUATION OF THE SUBJECTS STOPPED IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

With respect to the situation of the 2 lengthy subjects the past Wednesday in the environs of the Legislative Palace of San Lazaro, the General Office of the judge advocate general of the Republic informs that the Israeli citizen Saer Ben-Zvi or Saar Noam Ben Zvi was put to disposition of the Court First of District A. de Federal Penal Procesos in the Federal District, whereas to the Mexican Salvador Gersson Smeck car of freedom with the reserves of the law were dictated to him, because were not elements for their consigment. By virtue of which when it was stopped Gersson Smeck it carried a weapon calibrates 9 millimeters, it was in freedom with reserves of the law and Vista to the Secretariat of the National defense in relation to the permission of carrying of firearm occurred whereupon it counts. The Israeli Ben Zvi was committed in the North, pending Manly Reclusorio of which its legal situation is solved to him, like probable person in charge of the commission of crimes of violation of the General Law of Population, anticipated and sanctioned by articles 123 and 143 of the General Law of Population, all in agreement with 6º. And 7º., fraction 1º, 8º. 9º and 13º, Fraction II of the Federal Penal Code, with which beginning occurs to the corresponding penal process.

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posted 11-28-2001 08:35 AM            

Mario Andrade wrote, "Do you remember the group of Israelis taking pictures and video from a roof top as the twin towers were burning to the ground?" Has anyone followed that story? I have. And it is not as Mr. Andrade 'suggests.' And note that he sent the story to Pravda himself.

The translation posted above says the one gentleman had a legal permit to carry and the other was held on a possible Mexico immigration law violation. Bear in mind that in Mexico there is no such concept as "innocent until proven guilty."

A little discernment, please. Folks in the Southwest are familiar with the term "reconquista" and of course, a socialist, pro-Palestinian/Middle Eastern rag from Mexico is going to encourage the conspiracy theory that Israel and "US Zionists" were really behind the WTC and other terrorist attacks on the US, as it encourages a civil war and taking back of the Southwest for Mexico. There are organized groups of LaRaza at most Southwestern colleges and universities advocating just that.

I am not surprised to see this story show up on a chemtrail message board as other anti-semetic crap also has in the past. Beside the NWO take-over, militia involvement and radical enviromentalism, "anti-Zionism" seems to be just another commonality of the chemtrail crowd.

Quote:

While there is no evidence that the September terrorists entered over the Mexican border, the trial in El Paso of an Iraqi smuggler produced evidence that he alone brought more than 1,000 Middle East illegals into the United States via that route, charging his clients $10,000 to $15,000 each. Border Patrol agents have confirmed the increase in illegal aliens coming from the Middle East across our southern border and the fact that Arabs pay up to $50,000 each for a "coyote" to smuggle them into the United States.

AND:

Americans consider it ridiculous even to talk about giving the Southwest to Mexico. Most national borders all over the world have come about as the result of war.

Mexicans obviously have no thought of invading the Southwest with troops, so their hope is reconquista by migration, both legal and illegal. According to Mario Obledo, founder of the Mexican American Legal Defense & Education Fund, "California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave."
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/phyllisschlafly/ps20011128.shtml

posted 11-28-2001 03:11 PM            

http://www.petitiononline.com/liberty/

To: US Citizens
Whereas, on June 8, 1967, the U.S.S. Liberty - while operating in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean - was the target of an attack by Israel's war planes and torpedo boats; and

Whereas, this attack killed 34 members of the Liberty's crew and wounded 172 others, in addition to causing extensive damage to the ship; and

Whereas, the Congress of the United States has investigated every other incident of this kind; and

Whereas, the Congress of the United States has never conducted an investigation into the attack on the U.S.S. Liberty; now therefore be it resolved,

That the Congress of the United States should immediately undertake and conduct a complete and comprehensive public Congressional investigation of the June 8, 1967 attack on the U.S.S. Liberty.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

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The story Nirvana is referring to obviously involved current or former Israeli/Mossad operatives committing or attempting to commit crimes in Mexico and probably, as stated, against the United States, but that doesn't make it an anti-Semetic story. And, it doesn't make someone thoughtful enough to post it anti-Semetic either! It makes them a American patriot as far as I'm concerned. Some people think that if they don't see it on the evening news, then it must not have happened.

Did the Israelis also have permits to carry grenades and dynamite w/detonators into a Mexican government building?

BTW, that alleged quote from this Mario Andrade originally came from a story claiming that the people watching and celebrating the WTC bombing were Arabs, not Israelis! It was never verified and was most likely more propaganda put out within hours of the attack to place blame on an Arab group. (That was also the original immediate claim in the OK City bombing.) There was no evidence or proof of any kind that this event (Arabs or Israelis) even happened at all. New York is the largest city in the world. Isn't it likely that among all of those millions of people, someone would celebrate the collapse of the WTC. So what? It's just inflammatory rhetoric promoted by the media to make a good story at best, or, to place immediate and unproven blame on an Arab group at worst.

Howard Stern and several other media clowns (Jewish and otherwise) also tried to promote that story following the 9/11 attacks. IMO most American Jews would probably be outraged if they thought that Israeli Mossad agents would be involved in terrorist operations around the world or if it were proven they had a hand in the WTC bombing.

Likewise, assuming that Arab/Muslim fundamentalists are responsible for the WTC attacks, I believe that most Arab-Americans are equally outraged by Arab/Muslim fundamentalists if they made the attacks. How would Arab-Americans benefit in any way from terrorism committed by Arab terrorists in America?

The 'debunkers/Debs' statements about Arabs only indicates that she is a racist. Why aren't Israeli soldiers who kill kids every other day in Palestine considered Israeli terrorists.... because they're only killing Arabs? Why aren't they also called Israeli/Jewish fundamentalists, willing to kill indiscriminately as they do?

Is it okay to support a foreign country, like Israel that has a documented history of spying on the U.S. as well as lethal attacks against American military targets. I don't think so. The U.S. has been and is still allied with many Arab/Muslim countries.

Is condemnation of those documented violent attacks, spying, murdering of American servicemen by Israeli forces anti-Semetic? Definately not.

I suspect and hope that the vast majority of American Jews would also condemn the spying and attacks made by Israeli forces against the U.S. as well as the WTC attacks in support of their homeland, the United States of America (and not Israel).

posted 12-03-2001 02:11 PM            

Another Mossad Operation?

In 1956, Israel was engaged in one of its periodic wars with its Arab neighbors. To get the United States to enter the conflict on its behalf, the Israelis of Tel Aviv thought they had the perfect plan. They would blow up the U.S. information center in Cairo and blame the Arabs. Americans, being incredibly naîve in these matters would automatically blame the Arabs, rally around the flag, and--voilà-- it's off to war they go.

Only problem: The scheme backfired and the culprits were caught. The upshot was a scandal which brought down one Israeli government--although the Israel continued to sail right on, collecting its billions from Uncle Sap while viciously trying to sink one of America's unarmed communications ships, the USS Liberty. Are we about to see a repeat of the old game?

posted 12-03-2001 02:16 PM            

The mass-circulation Okaz said in an editorial that an attack on such a scale could not have been carried out with such accuracy and precision without the help of parties inside the United States or with strong links in Washington.

"Six Israelis suspected of involvement in the attacks on New York and Washington were arrested in the US, to be later released. This confirms our strong suspicions about the involvement of Israel's Mossad in the ugly crime," Okaz said.

"If we look carefully into this matter, we can find no more influential sides in the US than the Israeli Mossad agents, who have the ability to penetrate and the capability to execute with high efficiency," the daily said.

The paper said there was not sufficient evidence that Arabs and Muslims were behind the attacks, but it did not rule out the possibility that Mossad may have recruited some Muslims to carry out the atrocities.

"The main purpose of the conspiracy (attacks) is to undermine ties between Arabs and Muslims, especially moderate states, on the one hand and the US on the other, and to turn the Muslim and Christian civilizations against each other and incite hatred between their adherents," it said.

The positive change in Washington's policy on Middle East peace and its support for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state confirms that the United States has laid its hands on important leads indicating a direct role by the Mossad in the attacks, the paper asserted.

"We don't think we will wait too long before (the United States) reaches this result. This crime should not pass without knowing its actual masterminds, instead of focusing on 'stupid' tools," Okaz said.

Saudi newspapers often reflect official thinking in Riyadh. The kingdom has accused the pro-Israel lobby in the US of orchestrating a US media campaign against it.

posted 12-05-2001 12:03 PM            

USS Liberty
Did Israel commit one war crime to hide another?

By James M. Ennes, Jr.

Washington Report readers know the story well. In 1967 on the fourth
day of the Six Day War, the armed forces of Israel attacked the American
intelligence ship USS Liberty for 90 minutes in international waters in
broad daylight following several hours of close, low-level
reconnaissance. Thirty-four men died, 171 were hurt, and the ship was
so badly damaged that it had to be scrapped.

The government of Israel has lied about the circumstances ever since,
telling a story markedly different from that told by American survivors.
Congress has refused to question Israel's demonstrably false account,
even though the State Department's own analysis finds the Israeli story
to be untrue.

Yet the most pressing question remaining from that infamy is not whether
the attack was deliberate. That was settled long ago for most
reasonable people. The question is why Israel risked its cozy
relationship with America by killing American seaman on the high seas.

Indeed, spokesmen for Israel use that question in Israel's defense.
Why, they ask, would Israel risk alienating its American friends?

So why did Israel attack? Intelligence analysts and others have long
supposed that Israel attacked to prevent the ship from reporting the
impending invasion of the Golan Heights, then imminent despite cease
fire pleas by the United States. Israel's defenders reject that
explanation.

Recent reports in the Israeli and Egyptian press suggest another
powerful possibility.

According to eyewitness accounts by Israeli officers and journalists,
the Israeli Army - the army that claims to hold itself to a higher moral
standard than other armies - executed as many as 1,000 Arab prisoners
during the 1967 war.

posted 12-12-2001 03:32 PM            

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JDL Chairman Accused in Bomb Plot

By Linda Deutsch
Associated Press Writer
Wednesday, December 12, 2001; 3:53 PM

LOS ANGELES –– The chairman of the militant Jewish Defense League and a follower have been arrested on suspicion of plotting to blow up a Los Angeles mosque and the office of an Arab American congressman, federal authorities said Wednesday.

Irv Rubin, 56, and a member of the group, Earl Krugel, 59, both of Los Angeles, were arrested Tuesday night after the last component of the bomb – explosive powder – was delivered to Krugel's home, U.S. Attorney John S. Gordon said.

Other bomb components and weapons were seized at Krugel's home.

Authorities said the plot targeted a mosque in Culver City and the office of Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif.

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