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TheXPig
Devil's Advocate
CS, CO
64 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 11-30-2001 03:15 AM
  
Advanced Cell Technology announced on Sunday that it has successfully cloned a pre-implantation human embryo.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/science/11/25/human.embryo.clone/index.html And I was wondering what those of you here, who have an opinion about it, thought about it. TXP
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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts
Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001
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posted 11-30-2001 07:53 AM
I don't know, XPig. I don't like it, but so far, that's an emotional-level religious opinion. I'm opposed to abortion, but not to in vitro fertilization. I don't know what to think about discarding fertilized but unused human eggs. I'm opposed to cloning people to be used as spare parts, but if a human clone were to be born and grow up, they would essentially be an identical twin of the person they were cloned from, and I wouldn't have a problem if they were regarded as an individual human being with full rights. But then why would you want to go to the trouble to take an immense genetic risk by cloning them?I'd be interested to hear other people's thoughts.
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 11-30-2001 10:41 AM
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but if a human clone were to be born and grow up, they would essentially be an identical twin of the person they were cloned from, and I wouldn't have a problem if they were regarded as an individual human being with full rights. But then why would you want to go to the trouble to take an immense genetic risk by cloning them?
Right, 3T3: "Genetic risk" The problem is that the scientists think that the cloned DNA is like a digital copy, but it's really more like an analog copy. If it was like digital, we could expect it to be flawless, in which case everything would be fine, but the reality is that the cloned DNA copies are flawed. Have you noticed how most all of the cloned animals don't live that long? Same thing if we try this with humans. Moral and ethical issues completely aside, this idea of human cloning is a big mistake. It just isn't practical. It won't work, because we are nowhere near sophisticated to do it right. We are like children doing gross tinkering with the stuff of life to see what we can do, and the scary part is we (the scientists) think we know what we are doing...
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Jeanie
Senior Member
North East U.S.A.
551 posts, Nov 2001
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posted 12-03-2001 08:52 PM
 Cloning??? Havn't you Heard??? Human Cloning has already been accomplished, successfully!!! A man by the name Bill, because of a heavy work load, arranged to have himself cloned so that his clone could take over half his work load. This backfired on Bill because his clone went all over town swearing and telling off color jokes. This was ruining his reputation, something has to be done about it!!! Bill figured he could bump off his clone and no one would be the wiser. Bill lured him to the roof of a tall nearby building and pushed him off. Well---It just so happened that a woman living across the street saw ita all and called the police. And, you know when the police came and arrested him, can you guess what Bill was charged with??? Making an obcene clone fall !!! 
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TheXPig
Devil's Advocate
CS, CO
64 posts, Oct 2001
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posted 12-04-2001 02:17 AM
Oh man. You are so fired.TXP
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 12-04-2001 02:28 PM
Hey Jeanie, stop cloning around! 
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Thermit
Tech
Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 12-12-2001 04:15 PM
Yep, just like I said...
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991679 quote:
Cloned monkey embryos are a "gallery of horrors"
19:00 12 December 01
Sylvia Pagán Westphal, Boston
A high percentage of cloned monkey embryos that look healthy are really a "gallery of horrors" deep within, says a researcher at Advanced Cell Technology, the company that last month published the first paper on cloned human embryos.
This could mean that there is something unique about primate eggs that will make cloning monkeys or people far more difficult than cloning other animals. At the very least, the experiments show that there's a lot to learn before primates can be cloned.
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