posted 12-08-2001 01:15 AM            

what would be called a sighting of a unidentified craft occurred here north of me this evening in northwest Oklahoma, niether one of the craft in question showed upon F/E, in between 11:30 and 11:40, a craft which looked to be the size of a b-52 @ 10000 ft or less was being followed by another strobing craft, consistent with what a two wing aircraft looks like at night @ 20,000 to 30,000 ft. the appearance of the larger one was of a boomer-rang shape, and the illumination was not consistent with normal craft patterns...the two craft made a weak u-turn from the northwest to southeast to a heading of north east...and then disappeared...the illumination seemed to indicate this was a very large craft, and the one behind it was intercepting but not terribly aggressive...was a far cry from little green men, but was one helluva kick...

all the below aircraft were flying at the time of the sighting and were in the area...verified by F/E.

swa 1201

eww o11

ups 941 made an abrupt turn @ -98.4 38.7

abx 403

eww 011, ups 905, ups 903, ups 907 all leaving area @ 612 +

the area in question is ruffly 37 to -99.5 lat long

the sound of one jet aircraft was all that was heard .

posted 12-08-2001 01:45 AM            

Seriously...AMAZING!

Seems to be a lot of boomerang-shaped objects spotted as late...my guess is military.

From latest Filer's Files ~

NEW JERSEY BOOMERANG SHAPED OBJECT

NEW BRUNSWICK -- The witness reports that, "While watching the Leonids meteor
shower on November 18, 2001, I noticed a boomerang shaped object flying
directly above me at 5:05 AM." It made no sound and had no lights. The
surface appeared smooth, with no visible engine or tailfin. I couldn't make
out the color, but it appeared flat or matte, possibly gray. The altitude of
the object is difficult to gauge but based on the size, speed, and wingspan,
from my perspective, it was larger than a 747, traveling 300 to 600 mph at
under 10,000 feet. It looked like a giant boomerang, flat with a narrow
fuselage/wings.

MARYLAND FLYING TRIANGLES

ANNAPOLIS -- The witness set his alarm for 4:30 AM on November 18, 2001, to
meet some friends to watch the Leonid meteor shower. Going out on the
balcony, I saw three meteoroids almost immediately. I excitedly phoned my
friends and when I looked outside again, I saw two large luminous Flying
Triangles over the houses and trees. Flying in formation they headed south.
At first I related the illumination to the meteor shower, but when I looked
directly at the objects an instinct kicked in that these were NOT shooting
stars, and I was witnessing something incredible. I live a block and a half
away from the Naval Academy and I am used to Navy flyovers, Blue Angels, etc.
THIS WAS DIFFERENT. The Flying Triangles did not project light to the
ground; they themselves were yellowish, white light. Their edges were not
sharp; they were slightly rounded with the glow of the light. They appeared
to be flying in formation - points facing down, close together, on a
diagonal. Together, they were about the size of a half moon. Their movement
was fluid and quick and they were SILENT. I was only able to watch the
objects for 7 seconds and soon after they disappeared, I heard a boat horn
sound twice quickly indicating they may have seen the same thing. I met my
friends and told them I was sure I had seen UFOs. They reacted with friendly
skepticism, but I saw the triangles again in the southeast corner of the sky.
I sat up, pointed, and said, "Look!!! There they are!!!" One friend was
able to see them much farther away. Just before they disappeared, one
triangle broke out of formation and darted ahead. Thanks to Peter Davenport
Director of the National Reporting Center www.ufocenter.com.

AUGUSTA -- On November 19, 2001, the witness reports seeing a chevron shaped
object move from the north to south at 5:30 AM. Its movement caught my eye.
It had a 'V' shaped bank of white lights the same color as the stars. The
rear lights seemed to be offset a little. It had no aircraft type of
lighting on it and made no sound. The lights were perfectly round, like
domes. Could not see any shape but the v shape pattern of the lights. I
have seen this type of object on many of the UFO shows. Thanks to NUFORC www.ufocenter.com

MINNESOTA FIVE BRONZE COLORED, ELLIPTICAL SHAPED OBJECTS

MAPLEWOOD -- The witness reports he saw five figures in a formation soar on
November 19, 2001. They were bronze in color, and elliptical in shape.
Their sides came to a point, rather than just rounded. All looked to be the
same size. The formation they were flying was similar to a Less Than sign
(<). They were traveling towards the southeast at 11:45 PM and being a pilot
myself, I would guestemate around 40,000 feet. The sky was clear. I watched
them from about a 60-degree sky position from my right side, to about a
30-degree sky position on my left side. They flew virtually overhead. I saw
no other lights, nothing flashing, just the steady bronze color. I heard no
sounds from them, but at that altitude you probably wouldn't. There were no
trailing streams of light coming from them. I know the Leonid Meteor shower
has been going on, but with meteor showers, the light goes extremely fast,
has a trail of light, and is generally really bright. These lights could not
be meteors. There is not a great amount of military aircraft around here.
The objects I saw were traveling three times as fast as an airliner in
cruise. I'm not sure how fast our military aircraft can go, but it was
impressive whatever it was. Thanks to Peter Davenport NUFORC www.ufocenter.com

OREGON TWO OBJECTS JOINED, THEN SPLIT APART

PORTLAND -- The witness was driving home when he saw two objects just after
sunset on November 19, 2001. At first, they appeared to be airplanes,
although they seemed to be joined together and form one large hovering craft.
The witness estimated they were flying at 2000 feet altitude as they passed
at 5:15 PM. Then, after about ten minutes, they split again. One advanced
northward, and the other remained in a hover mode, perhaps advancing slightly
northward. The witness state, "I then saw a very small light leave the
remaining craft, and it fluttered downward erratically, kind of like a spark.
As I arrived home, this second craft advanced forward again, and I noticed
it was shaped somewhat like a plane, but all the lighting was white and
steady. There were no blinking red and greens that are normally seen on the
wing and tail sections of a plane." As I watched it slowly move northward,
it appeared not to have a body or shape. It was as if lights were arrayed on
an invisible craft. Thanks to Peter Davenport NUFORC www.ufocenter.com

"and the illumination was not consistent with normal craft patterns"

posted 12-08-2001 02:03 AM            

and I have no guess on who it was either...it was being escorted or followed closely...

blue white lights and seemed within the craft...the strobe from the other craft was outside obviously, again it was quite a ways away,and I was not able to define detailed characteristics...other than shape or formation...the craft behind it told me it was not a normal formation...of anything I'd ever seen...

the lat long is accurate, based on almost 2 years of F/E watching...is where I get distance...

and one more time for those in the back row...yep, that's you chem...I don't care about perception or respectability here...I saw it, it was real to me and that's all that matters...perhaps some may benefit...

I will do a drawing of it, but have said about all I can about it...other than yes it was cool...

posted 12-08-2001 02:10 AM            

How did you mange to determine it's altitude?

Have you asked anyone in authority to confirm the existance of what you observed?

If so, what was their response?

As far as I know, the military has denied any knowledge of what you are reporting and therefore it can not exist.

You obviously have been brainwashed by a bunch of 'conspiracy theorists' and it is my solemn-duty to ridicule you for fanning the flames of paranoia on this 'non-issue'.

Do you have any proof, whatsoever, that what you are describing actually occured? Or are we to hold you to a lesser standard of evidence than you have held us for lo these many moons?

Debunkers don't report UFO sightings, Seeker. They make it their business to ridicule those who do. Please report for duty at once.

I'm sure what you were observing was just 'normal commercial air traffic'...

Woo-woo,

posted 12-08-2001 02:18 AM            

Whatever it was, I'm sure it was spectacular!

"I will do a drawing of it, but have said about all I can about it...other than yes it was cool..."
I'd be interested in seeing your drawing seeker. You must be on such a natural 'high' right now. Don't let the woo-woos like Chem11 get you down.

posted 12-08-2001 02:32 AM            

Did you get a picture of this craft, T/S?
How did you mange to determine it's altitude?

nope it's nighttime

Have you asked anyone in authority to confirm the existance of what you observed?

don't care to I seen it, doesn't matter...there are quite a few aircraft there listed public and private for anyone to research...proving my viewing of this event does not mean anything to me at all...but it was an accurate description, and if it helps anyone interested, good.

Do you have any proof, whatsoever, that what you are describing actually occured? Or are we to hold you to a lesser standard of evidence than you have held us for lo these many moons?

the proof would lye in the aircraft in the area, you are the editor of megasprayer news you get on the horn....I just gave you a big story...

Debunkers don't report UFO sightings, Seeker. They make it their business to ridicule those who do. Please report for duty at once.

I am a skeptic...and you are attempting to inflict a generalization...

and yes Lulu quite difficult to get in the "sleep" mode...

posted 12-08-2001 02:34 AM            

So if it's not a UFO, what would you call it Lulu?

Swamp Gas?

BTW, I just checked The Weather Channel; hell has officialy frozen over.

posted 12-08-2001 02:44 AM            

Plenty of nightime photos of these craft, T/S. In fact there is a great one posted on the Got Plasma? thread over at the new Mega forum...

For anyone interested in reporting nightime chemtrail operations or sightings of anomalous aircraft, the Operation Night Owl thread is the place to do it!

posted 12-08-2001 03:33 AM            

or not...I don't care...