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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 12-30-2001 10:10 PM
 Jimi Hendrix = 11 (The Experience) Janis Joplin = 11 (Big Brother & the Holding Company) Jim Morrison = 11 (The Doors) 3 x 11 = 33
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-05-2002 01:25 AM
SECRET GOV'T FILES ON JIM, JIM & JANISBy: Harry Wasserman (Alternative Media) The FBI investigated late rock stars Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin prior to their deaths, according to FBI documents obtained by researcher A.J. Weberman. The files on Jim Morrison, lead singer of The Doors, include a report on how Morrison "pulled out all stops...to provoke chaos" when he exposed himself onstage in Miami, a thorough investigation of The Doors disruption of a L.A.-to-Phoenix airplane flight, and Morrison's FBI record listing 10 arrests. Of the 96 pages on Morrison, 5 were withheld completely and the other 91 had deleted names and paragraphs. A March 4, 1969 report from the FBI's Miami branch to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover on "possible racial violence" in Miami mentions that when The Doors played Miami's Dinner Key Auditorium on March 1, 1969, Morrison "reportedly pulled out al stops in an effort to provoke chaos among a hugh (sic) crowd of young people. Morrison's program lasted one hour during which time he sang one song and for the remainder he grunted, groaned, gyrated and gestured along with inflammatory remarks. He screamed obscenities and exposed himself.....There were 31 off duty Miami Police Officers hired by the sponsors who observed most of the action by Morrison but failed to make any arrests as to do so might possibly incite a riot. (deleted) advised that he is conducting an investigation and warrants will be obtained for Morrison's arrest on misdemeanor charges. In addition, the matter will be discussed with the Florida State Attorney's Office to determine if Morrison can be charged with a felony." A March 28 memorandum from Miami to "Director, FBI (Attn: Special Investigation Division)" indicates that a Federal warrant was issued in Miami on March 27 for the arrest of "James Morrison-FUGITIVE" on charges of "lewd and lascivious behavior" at the Miami concert on April 3, 1969. The Los Angeles FBI Teletyped to Washington and Miami that Morrison had surrendered that same day to FBI agents in L.A. The teletype report implies that a national FBI manhunt had been on for Morrison, as it notes that copies of the report were also being sent by airmail to Jacksonville, New York, San Diego and Tampa. A May 15 memo to the FBI Director from Miami FBI states that Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael J. Osman declined prosecution against Morrison and that the U.S. Commissioner of Miami, Florida, advised that Federal process against Morrison be dismissed. Jimi Hendrix's files are a scant 7 pages, invoking the FBI's investigation of his arrest on May 2 and May 6, 1961 for taking and riding in a car without the owners permission in Seattle, WA. His FBI record, for James Marshall Hendrix FBI #829158D also lists an arrest in the Army for unspecified reasons on May 31, 1961 in Seattle, and another arrest completely deleted by FBI censors. The file on Janis Joplin is even shorter, one page, a Teletype from Chicago FBI to the Director, dated Aug. 5, 1970, about "possible violence" at a Ravinia Park concert in Highland Park, IL, to be given by Joplin that same night. "....Source further advised that Ravinia Park area was to be heavily patrolled by some two hundred police officers including one hundred Illinois State Police and officers from nearby communities...(deleted) Bureau agents on scene. Appropriate agencies advised. The bureau will be kept informed of developments. http://www.theroc.org/roc-mag/textarch/roc-09/roc09-12.htm 
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-05-2002 01:28 AM
MIND CONTROL IN THE FIELD OF ART by Per Sewen - Illuminati News "Floor-to-ceiling mirrors were everywhere. Even the dining alcove at the rear of the living room had a table with a mirrored top. All these mirrors didn ‘t cheer things up." In programming Monarch slaves, mirrors are used a great deal. Within the Monarch slave’s mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors. Although other Monarchs may have some desires to decorate with mirrors, Marilyn is the most extreme case I know of filling one’s house full of mirrors" Chapter 12. With regards to this, it's interesting to read the lyrics of Jimi Hendrix, especially from a song called "Room full of mirrors". The lyrics go: "I USED TO LIVE IN A ROOM FULL OF MIRRORS ALL I COULD SEE WAS ME WELL I TOOK MY SPIRIT AND I CRASHED MY MIRRORS NOW THE WHOLE WORLD IS HERE FOR ME TO SEE I'VE GOT A WHOLE WORLD THAT'S HERE FOR ME TO SEE NOW I'M SEARCHING FOR MY LOVE TO BE BROKEN GLASS WAS FALLING IN MY BRAIN CUTTIN' AND SCREAMIN' AND CRYING IN MY HEAD BROKEN GLASS WAS FALLING IN MY BRAIN IT USED TO FALL ON MY DREAMS AND CUT ME IN MY BED IT USED TO FALL ON MY DREAMS AND CUT ME IN MY BED I SAID MAKING LOVE WAS STRANGE IN MY BED" Many rock musicians died around the same time: Brian Jones (Rolling Stones) who drowned in his pool(!); Mama Cass (The Mamas and the Papas); Jimi Hendrix; Janis Joplin; Jim Morrison (The Doors) and more. Cause of death was often overdosing drugs or as with the case of Jim Morrison, he died from heart failure in his bath tub(!). The story goes that Jim Morrison was involved in Project Monarch as well, due to Fritz Springmeier. I once read a biography on Jimi Hendrix, where it said that he didn't want to take the drugs, but was forced to do so by his manager(!). He soon became addicted. Drugs are heavily used in mind control. Seems like a common denominator that the artists are controlled and maybe programmed by their managers to create a certain effect upon the society. When Hendrix and Joplin were dead, Jim Morrison's manager told him that he, Jim, probably was the next in line ... Then Jim Morrison left the Doors and moved to France - maybe trying to escape from the insanity around him. But most likely, the Illuminati followed him and eliminated him. Could it have been a ritual murder? Was Jim more valuable to the Illuminati dead than alive? It seems like Jim had withdrawn from his band on the top of his career, probably to the dislike of his "superiors". Was he ritually murdered so he could live on as a myth? His girlfriend at the time was very confused after Jim's death (she was a heroinist as well) and some researchers suspect that she killed him. Was she programmed to do so? Her reactions after Jim's death to her own death a few years later is suspiciously similar to this of a Monarch slave. Her death is suspicious as well and may not have been "natural". Did she start remembering??? Bob Dylan, one of our most admired song composers and poets, is tightly connected to Kris Kristofferson, who is a programmer with regards to Cisco Wheeler and Fritz Springmeier. In the 80's he also, after had become a Christian, was closely related to Billy Graham, who is a programmer as well and a 33rd degree Mason. Dylan's friends and associates have often witnessed how he shifts from one personality to another, though I have seen no data on him being a victim of mind control. If you as a reader have more data on Dylan, please e-mail me on truthseeker@post.netlink.se . It is possible that those musicians became dangerous to the Illuminati and therefore were killed. If they don't serve the purpose, they are useless to them and potentially dangerous, as they may reveal the secrets if they start to remember ... 
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Spliffy
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13 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 01-06-2002 11:19 PM
Jeff Buckley = 11 Kirk Cobain = 11There was something magical about these 2 people and I've never believed the official stories regarding their deaths.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-07-2002 02:44 PM
Hi Spliffy,Isn't it Curt or Kurt Cobain? = 10 letters? I'm not familiar with the other name though, was he a musician? I think theres something more to Cobains death, but maybe not a Masonic thing? But who knows? Not all deaths would neccessarily apply to the '11' theory, as in Jimi, Janis and Jim and Saturday Night Live cast. But these seem obvious to me, more than coincidental, especially JJ&J. Could some of these have been promoted, backed with financial support and 'discovered' by Illuminati/Mason org. for some other purposes and then murdered via 'accidential' overdoses, injected heart attacks & cancer cells? (I think Gilda Radner was the only one to die of cancer? ... Phil Hartman was shot, Jim Morrison died of a heart attack, most of them died of drug overdoses.) It's seems too easy IMO to write them all off as victims of excess in the frequent cases of drug overdoses. Another common denominator they seem to have is that they were all American. In fact, Jimi Hendrix was a Ranger in the U.S. Armys 101st(= 11?) Airborne division prior to his music career.
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Duncan Kunz
Senior Member
582 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-07-2002 03:59 PM
Let's not beat around the bush here. Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, and Jim Morrison were small players in The Game. They weren't killed by the Illuminati because they saw what was going on and wanted to get out.They knew from the very beginning what their role was to be. They were willing conspirators from the beginning. They weren't killed because of their knowledge or desire to escape. They were killed because their time slot was up. It was time for the next phase in The Plan. JJJ were the 'precursors' to the real show stopper. Sure, Jimi was an icon who terrified the racists. Jim, with his androgynous sexuality, terrified the homophobes; and Janis, with her boozing and drugging, was the sworn enemy of those traditionalists who wanted to keep women on the pedestal of traditional womanhood. They did their job, and when their job was completed, they were liquidated like a network flop too bad even for Fox reruns.. They set the stage for the antichrist in the form of the modern Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, those whose overt work today glorifies either asexuality or outright homosexuality. Those whose infantile activities are cleverly designed to dumb down the next generation of Americans to blind, mewling, thumb-sucking, drooling nothings. The four horsemen - or "horse-things" - who have insidiously taken over the airwaves, pushed by the NEA and the Clinton/Kofi Annan Cabal itself. Every day they suck more and more of America's youth - with the unwitting help of their brainwashed "parents" - into the maw of the ultimate death of reason, decency, patriotism, and flossed teeth. Wake up, America, and count the letters: T-E-L-E-T-U-B-B-I-E-S. And may God have mercy on us all.
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Thermit
Tech

Houston, TX 2733 posts, Jul 2000
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posted 01-07-2002 04:24 PM
Duncan, you are a naughty Noo-Noo...

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Listen
New Member
right state of mind 17 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 01-07-2002 05:35 PM
George W. Bush = 11
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penumbra
quarky

North Carolina 668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 01-07-2002 06:32 PM
That is soo comPLetely funny! Was just wondering where you were hiding earlier today Duncan. Defender, remember Mr. Sux' story of how Bob Marley was killed? 
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-08-2002 01:42 AM
No, Penumbra, I never did hear (or see) what NSAsucks(?) said about Bob Marley? I seem to recall that Marley was machine-gunned to death along with one or two girlfriends in Jamaica?... but not real familiar with it.Spliffy, who is Jeff Buckley? There was that story about Teletubbies, that one of them, the one with the triangle on it's head (another Masonic image?) was representative of homosexuality. Maybe... I know that there was a kind of clandestine operation (maybe still is) in the use of the homosexual symbol of the pink triangle. Maybe this shows a link to Masons and the homosexual political movement in the U.S.? This symbol (pink triangle) was made a part of some clothing designs, like jackets etc. and sold nationwide, without people knowing they were buying and possibly contributing financially(?) to the 'gay rights' movements of the past few decades. These movements gained support through media talk shows like Phil Donahue, Sally Jessy Raphael and other prototypes for Jerry Springer, Jenny Jones that have reduced daytime television to strip shows and freak shows and a continued moral decline in the U.S.A.. In fact, those earlier 'talk shows' were very instrumental in coining terms like 'homophobia' that have been accepted and injected into popular mainstream lexicon. The possibility that Hendrix (for one) may have resisted drugs, but like all the others fell into the addiction and eventual death, (by murder or accident?) may be a singular example of what TPTB had in mind for the generation of kids who grew up listening to him. These three, JJ&J may have been promoted and 'handled' for the purpose of turning Americas youth into junkies and drunks. Like the Beatles may have been used even more overtly to promote drug use and experimentation with newer (at the time) hallucingenics like LSD that was originally created by military-related interests. This would fit in with other theories about Timothy Leary and his 'turn on, tune in and drop out' philosophy (also promoted by a Masonic controlled media(?); Rolling Stone, various record companies, radio stations... in the case of artists like JJ&J). I know that Jim Morrisons father was, at that time, the youngest admiral in the U.S. Navy, and I've seen some other theories regarding Morrison. He was also, according to "The Doors" movie and book written by other Doors members, active in both satanic rituals and Voodoo. Maybe Jim was used as a child in something like MKUltra? Reminds me of the Presidios Colonel Michael Aquino... satanist and psywar 'expert' for one, sick element of the U.S. Army. Maybe some of you have also heard theories about The Beatles and 'The British Invasion' being an actual, cultural assault, as proposed by some of the more traditional, religous and political groups of the time? (Paul McCartney was knighted by the Queen of England). I grew up with all of this music and I loved it, still do. Jim Morrison was also a drinking pal of Alice Cooper who went on to become kind of a prototype for Marilyn Manson! Some of the videos/songs being produced by newer bands as seen on MTV (at least in the '90's) were/are truly scary and bizarre. I'd never imagine I'd see things like that on TV and I was/am a big fan of Alice Cooper, even though he's had songs with lyrics like; "I love the dead, before they're cold... they're bluing flesh for me to hold...". ...(sounds a lot like Marilyn Manson now.). But the music is powerful, almost addictive in itself. With the internet, I've started reading more of the lyrics of songs I've listened to for years. Some of them are pretty revealing with messages that in some cases may have been subtle (and not so subtle) methods of conditioning aimed at listeners. Maybe all those critics of Elvis, Beatles, Stones etc were right? The decline of western civilization, fore-runners to punk, grunge, etc. But all deaths in Rock and Roll and show business don't have to be masonic or satanic-related, maybe they just needed a few to get the message across, after the ball is rolling (and rocking). Jimi, Janis and Jim were all at the height of their popularity and success when they died and may have been sacrificed by this masonic/satanic organization to serve and promote the designs of TPTB and may even have been created by them in the first place for that reason.
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Spliffy
New Member
13 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 01-08-2002 01:46 AM
Err my bad. Well since Bush get's a "W" and I don't know Curt (thanx) Cobains middle name we will call him Curt X Cobain = 11 letters Anyways the whole 11 thing is a little meaningless to me. The real point is there are many high profile people that have died and the pieces we are given don't seem to fit the puzzle we are shown. Teletubbies...Jerry Fallwell told us of their evil then a year ago. We should all listen to him. 
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-08-2002 02:15 AM
It may be true that some of them did know they were players, or it could also be that some of them were groomed as kids by parents or other forces, to use their talents, music to manipulate and control a 'targeted' audience? This is what Ted Gunderson and other ex-FBI, CIA have known for some time... the use of children in mind control, MKUltra experimentation.I read something once about a science of music, using certain chords, instruments etc used in mind control techniques. There is a real science behind what music or sound can do to the human mind. I'm sure that research has been done on it by someone, somewhere. Maybe I'll find a link or source. Yes, Spliffy.... Falwell may have been right, or he may have even been part of it. It could be that he was used, wittingly or not, to promote or 'reveal' the idea of a homosexual/masonic(?) conspiracy using a childs program, in this case, Teletubbies. Falwell is often treated as a clown or a joke by the mainstream media, though that may also be part of his role? To create a target for those who would attack Christianity? Though it could just as easily been all created via media targeting. I don't know that much about Falwell, but many tele-evangelists are clearly frauds. I tend to give more credence and support to anyone who is used as a whipping boy by the mainstream media, like Falwell, Ross Perot and others, because of the way I feel about the media, but... who knows? Remember that all of this could be done without the players even knowing what they are involved in, including Elvis, The Doors, The Beatles etc. I like the Stones too, although they have used satanic imagery and lyrics, like Led Zepplin and some other bands. Some of the newer bands are real obvious in speed metal and shock rock as far as promotion and beliefs in satanism. Some are more serious than others, and some are just following along for that cultivated/designed audience that caters to the dark side. Ozzie Osborne, Slayer, Danzig and many others have continued to build a sort of satanic musical genre that was first started by groups in the 60's.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-08-2002 12:25 PM
Maybe what we're talking about here is 'Frequencies for Destruction'?? The flip side of Lulu's thread?
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-08-2002 12:27 PM
Originally posted by defender:I read something once about a science of music, using certain chords, instruments etc used in mind control techniques. There is a real science behind what music or sound can do to the human mind. I'm sure that research has been done on it by someone, somewhere. Maybe I'll find a link or source.
.... from Lulus thread; Like any scientific technology these frequencies may be used for good or evil. Those who have his this knowledge from the masses for their own selfish reasons, the few who, as you will soon learn, virtually control the world, will suddenly find themselves at a disadvantage as masses of loving Godly people awaken to this knowledge and use its inherent power to bring about the great healing. As Nikola Tesla said: "If you only knew the power of the 3s, 6s and 9s!"
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-08-2002 10:54 PM
link to Saturday Night Dead; http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000470.html 
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-10-2002 08:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by defender: MIND CONTROL IN THE FIELD OF ART by Per Sewen - Illuminati News "Floor-to-ceiling mirrors were everywhere. Even the dining alcove at the rear of the living room had a table with a mirrored top. All these mirrors didn ‘t cheer things up." In programming Monarch slaves, mirrors are used a great deal. Within the Monarch slave’s mind, countless mirror images are made. The slave sees thousands of mirrors everywhere in their mind. Because Marilyn (Monroe)was so stripped of any personal identity, she decorated her house as her mind looked on the inside--full of mirrors. Although other Monarchs may have some desires to decorate with mirrors, Marilyn is the most extreme case I know of filling one’s house full of mirrors" Chapter 12. With regards to this, it's interesting to read the lyrics of Jimi Hendrix, especially from a song called "Room full of mirrors". The lyrics go: "I USED TO LIVE IN A ROOM FULL OF MIRRORS ALL I COULD SEE WAS ME WELL I TOOK MY SPIRIT AND I CRASHED MY MIRRORS NOW THE WHOLE WORLD IS HERE FOR ME TO SEE I'VE GOT A WHOLE WORLD THAT'S HERE FOR ME TO SEE NOW I'M SEARCHING FOR MY LOVE TO BE BROKEN GLASS WAS FALLING IN MY BRAIN CUTTIN' AND SCREAMIN' AND CRYING IN MY HEAD BROKEN GLASS WAS FALLING IN MY BRAIN IT USED TO FALL ON MY DREAMS AND CUT ME IN MY BED IT USED TO FALL ON MY DREAMS AND CUT ME IN MY BED I SAID MAKING LOVE WAS STRANGE IN MY BED"
A Selection from "The Lords and the New Creatures" Dull lions prone on a watery beach. The universe kneels at the swamp to curiously eye its own raw postures of decay in the mirror of human consciousness. Absent and people mirror, absorbent, passive to whatever visits and retains its interest. Door of Passage to the other side, the soul frees itself in stride. Turn mirrors to the wall in the house of the new dead -Jim Morrison --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- from An American Prayer; Do you know we are being led to slaughters by placid admirals & that fat slow generals are getting obscene on young blood Do you know we are ruled by T.V.

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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-22-2002 10:50 AM
BTW, I don't mean to imply that Hendrix, Joplin and Morrison were a negative influence, as far as their music... just the idea that they may have been used and disposed of by TPTB. They may have been used, in a way, as a weapon by TPTB as a means of promoting alcohol, sex, drugs, R&R lifestyle that contributed to the mass confusion, destruction of the nuclear family in the U.S. specifically?By negative I was referring more to the satanic-oriented groups that followed the 60's. Morrison & the Doors questioned authority, Hendrix' rendition of The Star-Spangled Banner may have been enough to have him killed by some element of TPTB? I'm not that familiar with Janis Joplin or her music.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-23-2002 02:20 AM
Operation ChaosWHO'S NEXT?: CIA Killings of American and British Rock Musicians,1968-1998 by Alex Constantine Research assistance: The late Mae Brussell's "Operation CHAOS," an unpublished essay, and film-maker Lew Lee. Reports of appalling excesses committed by domestic intelligence operatives during the Vietnam era have surfaced repeatedly in the public print since the evacuation of Saigon: the FBI's COINTELPRO outrages, the probable involvement of military intelligence officers in the murder of Martin Luther King, et.al,, assaults on 1960s activism by the CIA's CHAOS division, the distribution of LSD to subvert the anti-war movement, a litany of Watergate "horrors" and various ill-conceived, federally-sanctioned undercover operations. Some of this closet activity has only come to light decades later, including the existence of a CIA-led "Sovereign Committee," an assemblage of prominent reactionaries bent on turning back the civil rights movement in the South of the 1960s by decimating the lives of its leading spokesmen. Still eclipsed by federal classification are the tactics of the U.S. intelligence sector in the destabilization of the lives of musicians and counter-cultural activists, as revealed in a Senate Intelligence Committee report released on April 26, 1976: "Show them as scurrilous and depraved. Call attention to their habits and living conditions, explore every possible embarrassment. Send in women and sex, break up marriages. Have members arrested on marijuana charges. Investigate personal conflicts or animosities between them. Send articles to the newspapers showing their depravity. Use narcotics and free sex to entrap. Use misinformation to confuse and disrupt. Get records of their bank accounts. Obtain specimens of handwriting. Provoke target groups into rivalries that MAY RESULT IN DEATH."
Killing was, without question, deemed a sound option by an intelligence sector embroiled in suppressing the popular backlash to military-industrial authority. One covert operation proposed by the President Nixon's Plumbers unit,, a CIA cadré, involved the bombing of 100,000 demonstrators at a rock concert in Mission Bay, San Diego during the 1972 Republican convention (an event subsequently moved to Miami, where the same White House special operations unit planned to provoke a riot to be blamed on the Left, per Harper's magazine for December 1972, until the whistle was blown by FBI informant and Green Beret vet William Lemmer before a Florida grand jury).
The music industry of the Vietnam period was the binding force of a cultural revolution. Music and the politics of the Left were one. "War," Mick Jagger reflected, "stems from power mad politicians and patriots. Some new master plan would end all these mindless men from seats of power." Mick Jagger's audience sang his revulsion, but their enmity toward the warfare state was mutual. The back channels of the intelligence world swarmed with crooks and killers. This genré belched forth the late Robert Hall, associate of Robert Vesco and Howard Hughes, a private investigator in L.A. summed up by former Harper's editor Jim Hougan: "tough, reasonably brave and decidedly larcenous ... a father, a wiretapper, an informer, a dope peddler and a double agent" (Spooks, William Morrow, 1878). Hall tailed Sal Mineo one evening in 1975 ... the very night the actor was stabbed to death. (Mineo's had signed on to play Sirhan Sirhan in a film about the murder of Robert F. Kennedy - in it, CIA assassination and post-hypnotic programming were to be prominently featured themes.) Hall was retained by the managers of seven rock bands to investigate physicians who'd slipped their musicians fraudulent prescriptions, drugs that altered their personalities, sabotaged public appearances, hindered their lives and music. Hall reported that two doctors and a dentist had prescribed the mind-altering drugs. This information was turned over to the authorities. No action was taken. Hall was gunned down shortly thereafter, on July 22, 1976. The homicide investigation turned up tapes recorded by Robert Hall. Beverly Hills Police Chief Jack Eggars immediately resigned due to his involvement with the drug dealer, as revealed in the tapes. The media, observed the late political researcher Mae Brussell, linked the killing to "Hollywood's most famous celebrities in drug and sex scandals, exposures of television stars and high Washington officials, drug traffic from Los Angeles to the Malibu community, international sports events, the Los Angeles police department (one of their former agents is now retired, and heads the Police Science Department at L.A. Valley College and supplied the fatal weapon used to kill Hall)." Jack Ginsburgs, Hall's partner, was charged with the murder. Ginsburgs, according to Hougan, was "a pornographer, the proprietor of XXX, Inc. The son of a White Russian émigré, he'd spent his youth inside the decadent Shanghai Bund - that romantic foreign colony which [was] a meld of opium, kinky sex and intrigue." Gene LeBell was also charged. LeBell, another partner in Hall's firm, owned a pharmacy in Hollywood. Between 1967 and 1976, many of the music industry's most politically active talents died, among them Mama Cass Elliott, folk singers Richard Farina, Phil Ochs and Tim Buckley, Jim and Pamela Morrison, Gram Parsons, Otis Redding, songwriter Jimmy Reed, Clarence White of the Byrds, Janis Joplin, the Grateful Dead's "Pig Pen," Jimi Hendrix, Michael Jeffrey (Hendrix's manager), Keith Moon, others. Since, the deaths of John Lennon and Bob Marley were succeeded by books exploring the possible involvement of the CIA. Operation Chaos (forthcoming), will examine evidence of complicity by the intelligence "services" - recruiters of morally-erosive holdouts of fascist regimes and Mafia stinkbugs - in the deaths of over a dozen musicians associated with the "New Left," among them: Brian Jones: The coroner's report concluded, "death by misadventure" on July 2, 1969. the Rolling Stone complained that police planted marijuana on him, and he compared his handling by the law to the hounding of Lenny Bruce, recalling the tactics detailed in the 1976 Congressional Intelligence Committee report. Two books published in 1994, Paint It Black by Geoffrey Guiliano and Terry Rawlings' Who Killed Christopher Robin?, concluded that Jones had been murdered. England's Independent reported on April 4, 1994, "Murder Claims Raise Doubts Over Rolling Stone's Death." The 27-year-old guitarist may have been "deliberately drowned in the swimming pool of his country mansion by one of his aides, Frank Thorogood." The books cited above are in agreement that before Jones drowned, Thorogood conned the musician out of thousands of pounds. Was Thorogood a contract killer? Keith Richards: "Some very weird things happened the night Brian died. We had these chauffeurs working for us, and we tried to find out. Some of them had a weird hold over Brian. I got straight into it and wanted to know who was there and couldn't find out. The only cat I could ask was the one I think who got rid of everybody, and did a whole disappearing thing so that when the cops arrived, it was just an accident." Phil Ochs: Wrote songs condemning war. In 1974 he sang at Madison Square Garden with Bob Dylan, the occasion: "An Evening with Salvadore Allendé." The death of Phil Ochs was determined to be "death by hanging" in April, 1976. Two years before, he'd had a bout of depression and bizarre behavior that left him with a multiple personality, a psychological state much explored by the CIA's mind control community. Richard Farina: Married Mimi Baez, sister of Joan Baez - to the national security state born. Joan Baez wrote in her autobiography, And a Voice to Sing With (Signet, 1987), that when she was a young girl, "most of the bright young Stanford scientists went off to Los Alamos, New Mexico, where the atomic bomb was being developed. My father recognized the potential destructive power of the unleashed atom even in those early days. So he took a job as a research physicist at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York." Cornell was the home base of the CIA's mind control experiments, and Joan Baez is a self-described survivor of ritual child abuse, which employs a form of mind control, trauma-based programming, a technique perfected by the CIA. "Soon my father was invited to become Head of Operations Research at Cornell. Exactly what the job entailed was classified information, but he was offered a three-week cruise on an aircraft carrier as an introduction to the project and promised a huge salary. As it turned out, he would be overseeing Project Portrex, a vast amphibious exercise which among other things involved testing fighter jets, then a relatively new phenomenon. Millions of dollars would be poured into the project, about which he was to know little and say less." Farina, who had married into a CIA family, was killed in a motorcycle crash. According to the sleeve of his last record, "Goldwater was about to win the California primary and the skies were somewhat uneasy." Jimi Hendrix: From the Sunday Telegraph, December 12, 1993: "The former girlfriend of Jimi Hendrix, the rock guitarist, spoke for the first time yesterday about how she has succeeded in reopening the investigation into his drug-related death 23 years ago. "Kathy Etchingham has spent the past three years - almost as long as she was Hendrix's live-in lover - investigating the circumstances surrounding the star's death. A 34-page dossier she sent to Sir Nicholas Lyell, the attorney-general, has prompted Scotland Yard to reopen the case and may lead to a new inquest. In it she pointed to alleged inconsistencies in statements given by Monika Dannemann, a German blonde who was Hendrix's girlfriend at the time of his death.... The police will examine whether there was any delay in calling an ambulance for Hendrix.... "Etchingham, 46, now married and a mother of two, said: At the time of his death I didn't doubt what I was told. But then I began reading the biographies and seeing interviews and I could see gaping holes." Mama Cass Elliott: Count in her entourage at the time of her death one Bill Mentzer, since convicted for the murder of fledgling Hollywood producer Roy Radin. Mentzer was convicted with an accomplice, Alex Marti, former leader of an Argentine death squad, to life in prison. Cass had recently finished two weeks at the London Palladium. The coroner's report was not conclusive. She "probably choked to death," but there was "a possibility of heart attack." Bob Marley: After the last performance of Bob Marley and the Wailers in America, at Madison Square Garden, Marley took seriously ill. Three years before, in London, the singer had injured a toe in a football match. The toe was found to be cancerous, and Marley was treated in Miami, Florida with no success. By 1980, the growth had infected his entire body. He struggled with the disease for eight months at the clinic of Dr. Joseph Issels in Bavaria. Dr. Issels' brand of alternative medicine was non-toxic. For a brief time Bob's condition appeared to stabilize. Eventually, however, the battle proved too much. He died in a Miami hospital on Monday May 11, 1981. Excerpt of an interview with Lew Lee, a documentary filmmaker (the Oscar-winning Panama Deception and All Power to the People, an examination of the FBI's COINTELPRO excesses), conducted on October 30, 1997. LEE: People came by his house. There were always people going in and out. Someone gave Bob a pair of boots. He put his foot in and said "Ow!" A friend got in there - you know how Jamaicans are. He said,"let's get in here" - in the boot, and he pulled a piece of copper wire out. It was embedded in the boot. A.C.: Do you believe it was radioactive? LEE: I didn't think so at the time, but I've always had my suspicions because Marley later broke his toe playing soccer, and when the bone wouldn't mend, the doctors found that the toe had cancer. The cancer metastasized throughout his body, and he [Marley] believed he could fight this thing. He wanted to do anything but to turn to Western medicine. This may have been a mistake, maybe not. So they appointed for Bob - Chris Blackwell, I guess, and a couple of other people - they found this doctor is Switzerland, Dr. Issels, who said that he could cure Bob. And they cut Bob's dreadlocks off. And he was getting all of this crazy, crazy medical treatment in Switzerland. I know this because Ray Von Evans, who played in Marley's grounp, we were very close friends. As Bob was receiveing these medical treatments, Ray would come by every two or three months - 1979-80 - and told me, "Yeah, mon,They're killing Bob. They are KILLING Bob." I said, "What do you mean 'they are killing Bob?'" "No, no, mon," he said. "Dis Dr. Issels, he's a Nazi!" We found out later that Dr. Issels WAS a Nazi doctor. And he had worked with Dr. [Joseph] Mengele. Mengele survived the war and enjoyed the protection and employment of the CIA. On five occasions his death has been reported. Attempts to bring the facts to light have been subverted by employees of the Agency. John Lennon: British barrister Fenton Bresler has long maintained that the Beatle's murder was the result of CIA mind control programming. In Who Killed John Lennon? (1989), Bresler observed: "What really got the FBI and CIA so geared up about Lennon was [his plan] for a 'revolutionary road show,' starring Lennon and Yoko. This combination of rock music and radical politics was to barnstorm its way across America." Did a programmed killer abort the said barnstorm? The FBI has long resisted all efforts by Jon Weiner, a professor at the university of California, Irvine, to lay hands on Lennon's file, which remains top secret. Why? The mystery of Lennon's death - and unresolved circumstances in a score of others (the theft and burning of Byrd guitarist Clarence White's corpse by a Manson Family member, for one) - could well be dispelled by access to sealed files. The National Security Act of 1947, the CIA charter, does not grant national security thugs a license to kill.
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Spliffy
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13 posts, Sep 2001
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posted 01-23-2002 07:50 AM
DefenderJust reading through all these posts. I just noticed you mentioned Tim Buckley. Jeff Buckley, who I mentioned, is actually his son, also a musician. Amazing tunes beyond words imo and I think if you listen to his music or read his lyrics it fits into this. He "drowned" and if i recall the story told he was with a friend on a beach and waded into the water while singing a song and playing guitar. His friend looked away for a bit, a boat came by created a wave, and he wasn't found for i think 10 days later.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL

Level 64 1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-23-2002 10:07 AM
Hi, we did a little research on Tim Buckley but I found mostly fan tribute webstites. Thats how I feel about Harry Chapin (Cat's in the Cradle, Taxi) and Jim Croce (I Got a Name, Operator, Time in a Bottle) two of my favorites who died in car accident and plane crash respectively. Not much info that I know of on them either except for fan tribute sites.Chapin was deeply involved in world hunger issues at the time of his death, he was a true humanitarian, but I don't know if their deaths were just real accidents or not. I also wonder about Lynyrd Skynyrd and weird 'coincidences' about their last album cover and songs on last album before their crash? They had some political lyrics "In Birmingham they love the governor (George Wallace) now we all did what we could do. Now Watergate does not bother me, does your conscience bother you?"
- from 'Sweet Home Alabama' I don't know if that would be enough to have them killed though? Maybe by an indepedant assassin, or just a real accident?
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