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Topic:   Another courageous military apologist/Cattle Mutilations

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-18-2001 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still haven't heard a plausible explanation for the flashes. 95% of the time, whatever-it-is doesn't cause flashes at the adjacent NEXRAD stations. That would suggest that the cause is located in the immediate vicinity of the affected military base.

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 07-18-2001 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have some info on the radar rings I'll get to after lunch...for now...

That doesn't mean anything to me. Are you saying these rings are pictures from military radars? I did not know we had access to pics from military radars.

up until about a month ago I, and whole bunch of others had access to vance air force base and altus radar here in Oklahoma...the weather service that provided this went out of business...

RTW, I don't go to the other forums here starting crap and using bad language...please show us the same courtesy...

Chem, you not serious about the cattle are ya' ???? Everyone knows it was government conducting recon on areas of cows that would be susceptible to cancer ,due to fallout of nuclear tests ....

T/S

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-18-2001 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chem, you not serious about the cattle are ya' ???? Everyone knows it was government conducting recon on areas of cows that would be susceptible to cancer ,due to fallout of nuclear tests ....

Seeker, that explanation always sounded plausible to me, especially because they took soft body tissues, and because the cow pies nearby would be flipped over, as you'd expect from having a helicopter hovering overhead. But do you have any documentation for it? Like a believable confession from one of the perpetrators, or a picture of people in the act of harvesting tissue?

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-18-2001 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just because KDOX is on Dover AFB property doesn't mean it's not run by the NWS. Military bases have lots of open space and make good locations for weather radars.

Maybe it is run by the Air Force, but I could not find any AF weather unit on Dover to run it. Maybe it is automated? It is listed as a NWS site.

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-18-2001 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just because KDOX is on Dover AFB property doesn't mean it's not run by the NWS. Military bases have lots of open space and make good locations for weather radars.

I think another unsolved mystery about these flash radar rings is, even if the NEXRAD radars ARE run by the NWS, the rings only show up at places with military bases. For instance, Lubbock doesn't have an AFB any more, but it does have a NEXRAD radar. The NEXRAD in Lubbock never shows the rings. However the NEXRAD in Abilene (home of Dyess AFB) sometimes does.

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Chem11
megasprayer news


The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-18-2001 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeker, I was un-aware of any above-ground nuclear testing being done in the US.

Please elaborate.

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-18-2001 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The flashes are partly due to NEXRAD's much higher sensitivity. NEXRAD can paint even dust & insects in it's highest sensitivity modes. The rings and flashes are normal for WSR-88D's and have been explained many times. I am waiting for Seeker's crack at it!

I would still be more worried about those 5 megawatt TV transmitters!

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 07-18-2001 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
chem,

If you have followed the UFO stuff like you say, you should know the timeline of most of the mutalations....you should also know that the US did nuclear tests back in the day 50's 60's,I would have to dig to find info to back up my claims, but I'm sure most of you seen the discovery, or TLC special they did on this subject....which makes more sense to me than little green or gray (don't want to discriminate) men cutting up our cows...and yes 3t3, soft tissue...just where radiation exposure type cancers would show up...

I'll try and find some info, but I have 3 phone calls to return and a bevy of mails to get out at the momment...

moo

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-18-2001 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Radar Troubleshooting

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 07-18-2001 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bill you stinker, I got work to do !!!

websearch the terms "clear air and storm mode" that should clear up the rings.... the only thing that I wonder about is sometimes there is a line pointing into a storm cell, and for some reason it does give the appearance of visually changing the cell...most likely the line is an update and the delay is like 4 to 6 minutes on radar, so lapsing and or updated overlapping data ???

I'm guessing...

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Chem11
megasprayer news


The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-18-2001 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the timeline runs from the 70's up until the present day. Fallout? What fallout, T/S?

And why would the TPTB be cutting up rancher's cattle?. What, they can't afford their own test animals? And why expose themselves to this kind of liablity?

And why drain all the blood from these animals? And why drop them miles away from their pastures? And how come no-one ever see's any helo's in the area? It just doesn't make any kind of sense.

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-18-2001 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, but what does it mean in lay terms?

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 07-18-2001 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a 1995 reference to cattle mutilations:
http://www.idahonews.com/news/barker/roc623.htm

quote:

Barton, of Red Bluff, Calif., is one of hundreds of ranchers who have found their cattle dead and mutilated over the last 25 years. The phenomenon is a reccurring theme in the new West that logic hasn't been able to totally explain.

Barton's involvement with mutilations began Oct. 16, 1995, when she and her husband, Bill, were checking their 60 head of cattle running on the Lasses National Forest in northern California.

What they found were two dead cows, with their sex organs cored out. The ears were gone and on one a section of hide had been peeled away, exposing the teeth and jaw.

``They were so straight and smooth," Barton said of the cuts. ``There was no blood dripping."



A 1997 reference:
http://www.floridatoday.com/space/explore/stories/1997/041997a.htm

quote:

This much is certain: Whoever, or whatever, is killing Central Florida cattle is now being taken seriously by the state, so seriously the state formed a task force on March 28 to investigate. The macabre wounds on the carcasses are inviting comparisons to the so-called cattle mutilations that began plaguing western ranchers in the '60s and '70s and continue today.

"Random poaching happens all the time," says Marty Smith, president of the Florida Cattlemen's Association in Kissimmee. "But the removing of certain body parts, internal and sexual organs - this is different. This is not what we typically expect."



And in case you thought it was just the cattle who have this bad luck...human mutilation...yuck! This next link contains some graphic pictures of cattle multilations, and there is a link to photos of the human multilation...

Here is the autopsy text:

quote:

The autopsy report states:

"EXTERNAL EXAMINATION: We observed: 1) Cut off of the external ear by a slanting incision, with hollowing of soft parts; 2) removal of internal ear with indications of vital reaction; 3) enucleation of right and left ocular globes, with signs of blood inside the cavities"

Summing up the removal or hollowing of other parts:

"16) We observed the removal of the right and left orbital areas, emptying of the mouth cavity, pharynx, oropharynx, neck, right and left armpit area, abdomen, pelvic cavity, right and left groin area".



http://usuarios.uninet.com.br/~mfpporto/CAUTIOUS%20ABOUT%20ETs.htm

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-18-2001 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The title is the cause of the subjects. Having your AFC unlocked can cause those random spokes, etc. While these artifacts could be what believers think they are, they could also be several ordinary things as well, such as malfunctions.

Switching between modes in the middle of a sweep also produces artifacts. Parts of the circle can be in one mode, while the rest is in another. Re: clear air & precip modes. You would get spokes and arcs when this happens. An aircraft can fly close to the radar and block a section of the sweep. This could produce a reversed spoke where the beam was blocked.

If you point the radar up at it's max range, there would be a circle in the middle that the radar is "blind" to. The cone beam is too high to see the areas close in. You can then get some doughnuts.

Of course it could still be the NWO, but I really don't think so.

Mmmmmmmm........glazed doughnuts...

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3T3L1
Differentiated Mouse Fibroblasts


Lubbock, Texas
1347 posts, Mar 2001

posted 07-18-2001 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3T3L1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, I'd like a jelly...

Here are a few words of wisdom from NEXRAD radar expert Charlie Maxwell, NWS, New Mexico, commenting on some strange radar patterns found at enterprisemission.com. The complete explanations are here http://www.borderlands.com/newstuff/research/nexrad/Radarexp.htm

Commenting on the above radar ring at Brownsville, Texas, Mr. Maxwell said, "I must deduce that this was a glitch within the processing system of the Brownsville radar. Similar patterns have occurred before when there have been calibration errors, system noise, etc., and they are well documented." "This image most likely shows an internal glitch or processing anomaly distinct to the Brownsville radar during that particular time frame. The absence of returns from any of the adjacent radars and the purely circular pattern further support this conclusion, assuming that the other south Texas radars were in operation at the time." "If that anomaly is being produced by the radar itself, then almost anything goes. You can get spikes, circles, partial radials or even a radar screen completely filled when there are clear skies."

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-18-2001 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I accessed this thread, I was asked if I wanted a cookie from www2.pct.edu. who would that be?

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-18-2001 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pct= Pennsylvania College of Technology.

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Thermit
Tech


Houston, TX
2733 posts, Jul 2000

posted 07-18-2001 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thermit   Visit Thermit's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "Radar Troubleshooting" link goes to "pct", perhaps you clicked it...

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penumbra
quarky


North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-18-2001 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for penumbra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, but I did just go visit their website, and used their search engine...typed in NASA and got the following:
/homepage/student/NASABD06, when I clicked on it I got a 403- Access denied.
Also thought this was an interesting course description:
Aviation Microwave Pulse Applications
Very high-tech school, nanotechnology, etc.

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theseeker
One moon circles

Damnit...I'm a doctor jim
3403 posts, Jul 2000

posted 07-18-2001 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theseeker   Visit theseeker's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prenumbra,these links below what you were looking for ?

google search :
http://www.pct.edu/courses/tinman/
http://www2.pct.edu/courdesc/avc336.shtml

My kind of guy !
http://www.laboratory.ru/person/tretyakov/

T/S

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RidesTheWind
visionary


The Void
1359 posts, Feb 2001

posted 07-18-2001 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RidesTheWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish to apologize to LTC for my outburst.I'm just really tired of this whole thing.I'm tired of being fried, tweaked,
sprayed,harrassed etc.If it was your family that was being zapped PAINFULLY I don't think you'd be happy either.Here's the link to the Dover microwave beam that gets us from both dover and SHIP(third picture)!!!! So don't say its NWS please..... http://members.nbci.com/flashradar/FLASH20356.html

[Edited 1 times, lastly by RidesTheWind on 07-18-2001]

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-18-2001 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please don't ask me not to say things.

There is only one nexrad station on Dover AFB. It's either run by the Air Force, or it isn't. There is no mystery here. There is only one in Delaware. We are discussing the same one. It's largely automated. It's part of the NWS nexrad system. It's no diffrerent from all of the other nexrad sites. I do not think there is anything unusual about the pic. I do not think it is what is bothering you. There are far more powerful transmitters that I would look at first.

Cluster bomb away, if you wish, but that's what I think.

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LTC8K6
35 HOTEL / MOLE / LAME MORON

Tar Heel State
267 posts, Oct 2000

posted 07-18-2001 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LTC8K6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Chem11
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The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001

posted 07-18-2001 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chem11   Visit Chem11's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess you saw the autopsy pics, huh Thermit? Supposedly this poor SOB was still alive when they started cutting him open. The cause of death was listed as coronary attack, likely as a result of extreme fear.

I used to think that the human mutilation stories were horror-show disinfo nonsense.

The autopsy and the photographs seem to tell a different story.

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Lulu
ice behaving badly

right here
2553 posts, Dec 2000

posted 07-18-2001 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lulu   Visit Lulu's Homepage!   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may be having another twilight zone moment here but...I only see two links in Thermit's post http://www.idahonews.com/news/barker/roc623.htm http://www.floridatoday.com/space/explore/stories/1997/041997a.htm

about cattle mutilations, but I see no link for human mutilation pictures in the post or when I click edit. Can someone private message me the link? Thanks.

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