posted 01-11-2002 09:38 AM            

The original “Assassins” were a quasi-religious sect of murderous “defenders of Islam” formed in 1090 by “al-Hasan ibn-al-Sabbah” -– the same period that the Templars and the Catholic Church began their ill-fated attempt to “retake” the Holy Land in the Crusades. According to Islamic scholar Edward Burman, author of The Assassins - Holy Killers of Islam, though founded in Egypt, the Order soon moved to a mountainous region of Persia (modern-day Iran), organizing their campaigns against the invading knights from a well defended castle called “Alamut.” According to Berman, the cult was a ruthless, closed, secretive –- even occult –- society, one that used murder, guerrilla warfare, and (at times) overt military conquest to achieve its aims. The Assassins were much feared (and, paradoxically, simultaneously admired) by the Templars during the Crusades, for their almost mystical ability to strike at any time and without warning -- and against any target. Their almost inhuman willingness to sacrifice their own lives for the cause they were fighting (sound familiar ..?) made them a fearsome enemy.

According to the famed explorer, Marco Polo, who visited Alamut in 1273, the Assassins used a variety of techniques that we today would call “mind-control” to obtain and indoctrinate new members. These reportedly involved the use of drugs like hashish, and the transfer of the recruit to “a sumptuous garden filled with beauty, feasts and women.” In this drug-induced state, the recruit on waking was convinced that he had literally gone to Paradise. Upon his return to the "real" world, over time and at the hands of artful teachers, the recruit’s original beliefs in Islam were replaced with a perverted version called the “Nizari Ismailis” -- which ultimately convinced him he could return to this Paradise by means of sacrificing himself for the Cause and its leaders. Internally, the leaders of this sect referred to it as the ‘New Propaganda.”

Readers who have studied bin Laden should now recognize many echoes of this 12th Century Islmailis cult in bin Laden’s fanatic 21st Century followers, who apparently carried out the fatal September suicide missions holding similar bizarre “Islamic” beliefs. Clearly, according to a document discovered by the FBI in one of the hijackers’ bags, the hijackers were convinced that the simple act of carrying out their mission would get them “back to Paradise,” a striking parallel to the Assassin’s original beliefs. This, of course, is in stark contrast to traditional Islam -- which teaches that suicide is a sin against Allah, and that one must live an exemplary life to return to Heaven.
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This underscores one of the many puzzles of this increasingly paradoxical event: how supposedly “devout Muslims” –- some of the suicide pilots and their henchmen -- were seen drinking and carousing at strip clubs the night before the attacks! The answer: like the brainwashed members of the original 12th Century Assassins, the suicide hijackers also did not believe that they needed to follow the traditional external teachings of Islam to get to Heaven ... They had a “shortcut.”

Eventually, the Assassins were driven out of the Holy land, only to retreat to Afghanistan and Pakistan –- precisely where bin Laden now has his base (in fact, perhaps subtly referring to this ancient heritage, bin Laden calls his current world-wide assassination network “Al Qaeda” -– “the Base”).
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Questions;

1. If part of this rests on alleged FBI discovery of Al Queda documents at Ground Zero, we have to ask if that was planted by FBI or really was evidence of 'Assassins' involvement?

2. If the Assassins are also a secret society, like the Freemasons/Knights Templar, does that explain all of the secrecy behind media blackout of all this?

3. Has Bush/Freemasons been involved in covert war with Assassins for control of global narcotics trafficking? Argument could be made that if narcotics can't be controlled, then it's better to have U.S./Freemasons in control instead of a more uncontrollable force who would use opium/drugs as weapon and source of profits.

4. If the Assassins are responsible, who are the 'Assassins' affiliated with? Mossad/Israel, Russian Mafia, TPTB... Are the Assassins working as mercenaries for the highest bidder?

5. Have the Assassins and their sponsors been involved in attempts to use Masonic symbolgy to blame Freemasons for atrocities they themselves have committed (school shootings, assassinations, etc.)?

6. Is it all nonsense? Bush/Freemasons perpertated the crime themselves to exploit oil pipeline and/or opium production.

7. It's all nonsense. Bin Laden is just an evil terrorist who decided to attack the United States on 9/11. But if so, why? just insanity, hatred as promoted by mainstream media?... hatred of Christianity? Are the Assassins getting revenge on the U.S./CIA for stabbing them in the back after they fought the Russians, or is bin Laden still working for CIA and The Powers That Be?


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posted 01-12-2002 08:47 AM            

His information on the Assassins comes from Islamic scholar Edward Burman. It seems to be a reasonable explanation for the origins of Al-Qaeda. He then gives a reasonable history of the Freemasons and Knights Templar. The coincidences with all the numbers and alignment of constellations on September 11 is amazing.

It is hard to believe that mere man could come up with such intricate details on his own. It confirms my belief that all of these secret societies, at least at their highest and most indoctrinated levels, all have a common source of knowledge and direction and that is from Lucifer himself. This is confirmed by the Apostle Paul in Ephesians 6:12 and by the prophet Ezekiel in Ezekiel 28:12-19. The devilish images that showed up in the WTC explosions, I think, showed who was ultimately behind it.

Thanks again for the link. I have bookmarked it and will look at it more later.

posted 01-13-2002 07:13 PM            

EAGLES GLIDE OVER TROUBLED WATERS
Times of Decision are Upon Us
Ashtar's New year's Message For 2002

War and Political Game-Playing

Question: Could you please speak of war and the political game-playing that occurs between countries. At this time, the United States, backed by other countries, are at war with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Canada seems to be a peacekeeping nation and I hope it keeps that role.

Ashtar: The underlying reasons for war have never been widely known. The underlying reasons for war are manipulations by those with money in the name of greed. This goes for all of the wars that you can think of that occurred in the past hundred years. There might be some benefits that come through, such as the freedom of the people in Afghanistan. That is a bonus, but I want you to know that this type of energy, which would try to control your planet, is in its last stages on Earth. As I mentioned to you before, positivity is prevailing.

Manipulation in High Places

Question: What I felt, when the occurrence of September 11 happened, was a tremendous amount of shock and anger and then it went into what I feel could be termed righteous indignation. The answer to that, in my mind, is not war, but justice. I don't feel that you can obtain justice for actions like that through going to war. It is hard to put this into a question. The best way to do it is to ask you what your evaluation of the feeling of righteous indignation is and what kind of justice can come of it?

Ashtar: In all these years, the past hundred years, the Earth has had the very same problem and yet people did not understand or know what the problem was. Those who are searching for the truth are now beginning to see it and thankfully so, because this is the turning of the tide.

Righteous indignation? Yes. Justice is needed? Yes. However, many times those who perpetrate crimes are bringing forth a country or a person or a race of people to blame for situations. They blame others and therefore people are killed or are taken to justice for things they did not do. In other words, there is much manipulation in high places in several countries on your planet. Justice must be returned! It is the only answer for what occurred on September 11. The war that is occurring now, the search that is occurring for one certain person, is all a facade so that you will not look for the actual people who caused the problem. To bring those people to justice is imperative prior to your raising of vibrations. This is a very tall order, because, as you so definitely know, money talks and those who have money take their power, they take control and they escape justice. We are hoping to turn this around and we are now at the stage where the turnaround is happening. I am very happy to say that these energies are changing.

Question: How can we help?

Ashtar: You can help with the Pink Light. You can help with your love and with your meditations.

posted 01-14-2002 03:26 AM            

Much of the same information is used as is in the link given by Defender at [url] http://www.enterprisemission.com/tower2.htm The article goes on to describe a 3-way battle in the world for the control of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount (After all, the meaning of Knights Templar is "Knights of the Temple").

Here are some excerpts:

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This brings us back to our original statement that there is an ancient three-way battle for supremacy in Israel, and particularly in Jerusalem. Let us briefly review the three claims to the Temple Mount.

First, of course, is the genealogical claim of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob to the Twelve Tribes. This claim is plainly written as a contract, both spoken and ratified by the Lord. In His third appearance to Abram, the Lord promised him the land grant:

“And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:

“For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever” (Genesis 13:14,15).

The Lord later promised him the land, “… from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates”(Genesis 15:18).

Then, in a final gesture, the Lord led Abraham to Mount Moriah, where He instructed Abraham to prepare the sacrifice of his firstborn son, Isaac. The end result of this action was the sacrifice of a ram on the mountain that would later come to be known as Mt. Zion. Here, Solomon later built the First Temple, site of Israel’s priestly activities, and place of sacrifice. Genesis, the first of the five Books of Moses, clearly lays out Israel’s land grant and claim to the Temple Mount. The contract was given unconditionally and in perpetuity.

Second, we have the claim of Rome. Biblical Rome is the culmination of three idolatrous nations that preceded it: Babylon, Medo-Persia and Greece. Rome is the inheritor of the so-called Babylonian Mystery Religion, the cult of gods, demigods and the mythical mother and child, Semira-mis and Tammuz.

Furthermore, Rome past and present, is built upon the long history of pretenders to the throne of David. Nimrod, Ahasuerus of Persia, Antiochus IV Epiphanes of the Grecian Seleucid dynasty, the Emperor Titus and his son Vespasian are but a few of these men. According to Daniel, the Antichrist will be descended from those who destroyed the Temple in A.D. 70.

The Romans also consorted with other usurpers of Israel’s God-given power. Men like Herod the Great and his children were in league with the Roman Caesars. They went to the same schools and their families intermarried.

As previously mentioned, Romans were the ones who labeled the Promised Land with the name of Israel’s enemies. Jerusalem, they renamed Aelia Capitolina, making it a cultic shrine to Roman deities.

But it didn’t stop with the Caesars. Their mantle was passed on to the Holy Roman Empire, which believed that it had inherited the claims made to Israel. In the first of many “replacement theologies,” it believed that Israel’s many national sins had cancelled the land grant that God made to Abraham. They reasoned that, through Christ, the land now belonged to the Church, which would bring the long-awaited Kingdom to the world.

At the beginning of the second millennium A.D., the Knights Templar went to Jerusalem in the belief that their time had come. Their plan was nothing less than the establishment of the Davidic throne. But the Lord intended something else.

Third among the claimants are the descendants of Abraham through Ishmael, Isaac through Esau and the six sons of Abraham’s wife, Keturah: Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak and Shuah. Among many others they constitute the wandering Arab tribes and the peoples of ancient Midian, Sheba and Dedan.

Genesis 25 tells the story of Abraham’s settlement with them, as he gives them gifts and sends them into the country that lies to the east: Arabia.

The chapter concludes with Ishmael’s twelve sons and the statement that they came to dwell in the land “… from Havilah unto Shur, that is before Egypt, as thou goest toward Assyria…” (Genesis 25:18).

This is a clear reference to the countries that encompass today’s Arabian brotherhood. But ironically, as we have mentioned in other studies, even as they appear to dominate this region in sheer numbers, the internal feud among Arab tribes continues with gathering momentum.

Rappel Patai, writing in The Arab Mind says, “According to the tradition, one of the two original ancestors [of the Arabs] was Qahtan, progenitor of all the South Arabian tribes, and the other was Adnan, ancestor of all the North Arabian tribes. This tradition of the division of the Arabs into a northern and a southern moiety is definitely pre-Islamic.

“The sixth-century Byzantine historian Procopius refers to it. There was a pre-Islamic tribal confederation called Qahtan or Yaman (meaning south), and Qahtan tribes still occupy a sizable area south of Mecca. Yaman (or Yemen), in the southwestern corner of the Arabian Peninsula, is considered the original home of all these southern tribes. Learned Arab genealogists identified Qahtan with the biblical Yoqtan [Joktan] of Genesis 10:25, a son of Ebher (Arabic Abar), and Adnan as the son of Ishmael, son of Abraham. Since in Arab genealogical tradition the older a family tree, the nobler it is, Qahtan, who was five generations removed from Noah is nobler than Adnan who was twelve generations removed from Noah. Thus the Qahtan or southern tribes are considered the true aboriginal Arab stock, while the younger Adnan or northern tribes are considered merely Arabized peoples.”

Today, there is strife between these two groups in all parts of the Arab world. They are united only to the extent that they agree upon the necessity of Israel’s destruction. Feuding and fighting among themselves is so ingrained and inbred that it is considered high art.

How ironic it would be if, as some suggest, Yoqtan is really Jokshan, son of Keturah by Abraham. Genesis 25:3 says that he fathered Sheba and Dedan, the tribes of central Arabia. Thus, it may be possible that without realizing it, the Arabs themselves, acknowledge that their origins come from both Hagar and Keturah: Adnan from Ishmael through Hagar, and Qahtan from Jokshan through Keturah. No one can track their genealogies for sure. But the Bible prophetically speaks of all their houses as being in existence in the latter days.

For centuries, they dwelt east of Israel, but all that changed with the birth of Islam in the seventh century. Mohammed believed that he had received a divine commission to convert the Jews to his new religion. When they refused his offer, he went to war with them. Ultimately, in the seventh century, that battle came to Jerusalem.

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The first claim is naturally made by the Jews. The twentieth century was characterized by two major wars, each of which had a distinct influence upon the return of Israel to the land. World War I gave the Holy Land to the Zionist movement. World War II brought the people of the movement back to the land. But as we have seen, the West only makes a show of supporting Israel. In reality, it holds the view that Israel must remain subservient to the “stabilizing influences” of global government.

The second claimant — the Gentile West — has roots that go back to Rome, and even before that, in the idolatrous systems that gave precedent to its evil practices. It is extremely important to remember that in the West, there is a background of belief that the entire world will one day be controlled by a Gentile alliance. With the rise of modern Israel, it is only natural that the Western powers established their influence in the region. It has been well documented that their goal is the internationalization of Jerusalem.

The third claimant — Islam — doesn’t distinguish between Israel and the West. Instead, it sees them as co-claimants. Benjamin Netanyahu recently reminded us that Islam calls Israel the “little Satan,” and America, the “great Satan.”

The Knights Live On

Leading the West is the United States of America. There is a great deal of strange and mystical history in the founding of this country. The underground dealing of the Knights Templar came to this shore centuries ago. Later, our founding fathers embraced some of their teachings. Some have called the initial stages of America as a “great Masonic experiment.”

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This brings us the heart of Templar belief. As their title implies, they were knights “of the Temple,” referring back to the first Temple of Solomon. According to Templar and Freemasonic symbolism, this Temple incorporated the wisdom that had originally been inscribed upon the two pillars of the ancient world.

Its twin pillars were held to be the external symbols of the Temple’s internal truth. In Scripture, there is a great deal written about the construction of the Temple. Its general dimensions are given, along with details about design, building materials and order of its construction. There is one curious detail about its design. As construction began, Solomon sought out the services of a master designer from Tyre...The Templars and their spiritual descendants believe that Hiram named the twin pillars as clues to the inner knowledge built into the Temple. The left-hand pillar was called Boaz, the Hebrew word for “strength and speed.” The one on the right he named Jachin, or “he will establish.” Together, they stand for a basic idea: “He will establish through strength.” Doubtless, Solomon would have taught that the twin columns symbolized the actions of the Lord, in His coming to establish the Kingdom.

The Templars, however, seemed to believe that their own knowledge, as gleaned from recovered Temple documents, would be the power behind the coming Kingdom. It must be remembered that they believed the Jews were infidels gone astray. Because of their national sin and the destruction of the Second Temple, they were considered to have lost any claim to the Kingdom. That belief continues to this day.

During the eighty-eight years (A.D. 1099 – 1187) that they held the Temple Mount, the Knights Templar, are said to have discovered ancient documents that detailed the elements of Hiram’s secrets. Proof of this is said to reside in the fact that upon their return to France, they suddenly began to build the great cathedrals. Chartres, Rheims and Notre Dame are celebrated to this day for their architectural brilliancy.

However, most of their knowledge and mystical philosophy was held in highest secrecy. They quickly became a cabal of power brokers, whose acumen made them objects of respect as well as fear. Thus, they were driven from their powerful positions in Europe.

The Knights in North America

The Gothic designs and arcane knowledge of the Old World came to the Americas. Particularly in the lands that would become Canada and the U.S.A., they worked assiduously to establish their presence. From about A.D. 1400, through the founding of this country and to the present day, the Knights’ influence survives. Some say it prevails.

They are still the power brokers, merchant sea traders and bankers they have always been. In the Bible, they are seen as the “merchants of Tarshish.” Their law, is subservient to no country in particular. Rather, it is the international lex mercatoria, or Merchant Law, an international law based upon global trade.

They are the international bankers, who believe that the day will come when they control the affairs of the entire world. On the back of our one-dollar bill, there is the famous pyramid with the motto, annuit coeptis, novus ordo seclorum, “announcing the formation of a New World Order.”

In Washington, D.C., our nation’s capital, the streets are laid out along strange angles that have special Masonic significance. For example, a line laid out from the Capitol building to the Washington Monument (an Egyptian obelisk with its own arcane meaning), lies at a 19.5-degree angle to the street from the Capitol to the White House. Within the Masonic Order, this angle has special significance. It streets are shadows of the compass-and-square motif that is the major symbol of the Masonic brotherhood. Around the Washington Monument, major avenues are even laid out in the form a five-pointed star.

Bringing It All Home

At this point, one might ask, “What does Masonic symbolism have to do with the battle for the Temple Mount?”

The answer is simple. The leaders of Islam have very long memories. They still brood over the defeat they suffered at the hands of the Templars in 1099. They know that the Dome of the Rock has stood for centuries as a symbol of victory. They know about the Templars’ penchant for the Gothic architecture that they gleaned from Temple documents.

And they well know that the Templars have never backed away from their desire to erect a final Temple in Jerusalem, on the very site of that Dome. Muslims have quietly moved toward the day when their numbers would be large enough to support a frontal assault against the Templars’ banking empire.

It is extremely important to note that to Islam, symbolism is every bit as important as it is to the Templars.

When Japanese architect Minoru Yamasaki was commissioned to design and build the World Trade Center, he arranged its 12 million square feet of office space on sixteen acres as twin towers. They were oriented north and south of each other, with prefabricated steel structures on 39-inch centers (19.5 doubled). At the base of the towers, the design was distinctively Gothic. Rising from the lower floors were Gothic arches. At the plaza level, each of these buildings featured a design motif of Gothic arches.

These towers were nothing more or less than cathedrals of world trade. The world’s tallest buildings, they were filled with business and commercial representatives from the whole world. The twin towers, with their 110 floors rising 1,353 feet, were the tallest buildings in the world. From observation decks at the top of the towers, one could look 45 miles in every direction.

On February 26, 1993, Islamic terrorists parked a van in a parking lot under one of the towers. Using a timer, they detonated 1,200 pounds of nitrate explosives. The towers held. Undaunted, the terrorists returned with a new (and much more ambitious) plan on September 11, 2001.

Why did they aim so persistently at those twin towers of Gothic dedication to world trade? Because they understand the symbolism of the battle. With their north/south orientation and Gothic underpinnings, they were the very essence of the modern “Jachin and Boaz,” so revered by the world traders called the Knights Templar. If it were possible, one can imagine the ghost of Saladin smiling at the sweetness of his revenge.

His followers plan to continue their battle until every last vestige of the Templars’ World Order (headquartered in Jerusalem) is smashed forever. Fortunately for us, however, Jesus, the Messiah, Son of David, has already reserved the Temple Mount for His own throne.

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posted 01-14-2002 03:03 PM            

I want to believe that the Freemasons are a positive force here, and it may be possible that a 3rd faction maybe connected with the Assassins (connected with Islam or paid for by Judaism?) have committed crimes throughout history including recent 9/11 attacks, U.S. school shootings pattern etc.

By leaving tell-tale Masonic symbolism in the wake of these attacks, these other factions (maybe including Masons within the Freemasons, like Bush?... maybe Harvards Skull and Bones represents a splinter/renegade group of Masons?).. not only destroy their 'infidel' targets, but the Masonic 'movement/influence' itself?

I hope that this Ashtar is right Ellyn. I like that kind of positive thinking!

I think you're right ChevyS10. I think that these machinations/Machiavellian strategies are so complex, and involved and intermingled with religion/power that they must have a common link in what we consider supernatural influences. I've always been fascinated by the fact(?) that all three major religions have origins in the mid-east/Jerusalem.

I'm thinking that what we call Satan is or may be part of a society/culture so far advanced (Sirius or Sitchins 12th planet Marduk?) that for all intents and purposes it is supernatural to us. The Masonic connections to ancient Egypt/Sumeria and beyond (as described by Sitchin) together with the current influence in U.S. government and NASA are too prevalent to ignore... (Over 80 NASA launches based on positioning of stars at 19.5/33 degrees!?!? Masonic symbolism in Washington DC and the planet Mars!)!!

The idea of satan as a fallen angel, cast out from Heaven, and instances of ancient mythology based in fact (Von Daniken) could refer to either spiritual or physical beings that represent an obstacle here on Earth that we as humans/souls must resist in order to return to the spiritual place we all came from?

I remind myself that God & satan may have representatives/agents/subjects(?) in the form of extra-terrestrial's that are more or less advanced than we are in this physical plane.

I hope that satan's powers (whatever satan is) are limited to the physical world, and that with faith in a higher power (God/love), we can survive this lifetime and go home again! In the mean time, we have to make the best of it... IMO.

posted 02-25-2002 08:03 PM            

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Leading the West is the United States of America. There is a great deal of strange and mystical history in the founding of this country. The underground dealing of the Knights Templar came to this shore centuries ago. Later, our founding fathers embraced some of their teachings. Some have called the initial stages of America as a “great Masonic experiment.”

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ChevyS10, here's another link on Masons. I once heard that all U.S. presidents except JFK were Masons. According to this, they weren't.

posted 02-26-2002 07:16 AM            

No. 33 of the generals serving under Washington were Masons. A substantial number, but not "all".

posted 02-26-2002 06:52 PM            

It was interesting that they made a point of saying that Hess took off from Germany at precisely 5:42pm. 5+4+2= 11. I'm paying attention more now, to historical info that makes a point of mentioning or stating specific times or numbers.

Why would it be necessary for this program to point out the specific time at which Hess left for England? I might not have questioned it, except for the fact that this program also dealt with the existence of secret societies in relation to the Nazis and WWII.

posted 02-28-2002 11:42 AM            

I never thought of it in connection with assassins/illuminati? but if any of this is true, that could be the case with attacks agains the 'freemason' monuments in DC.

Here's some more info for what it's worth;

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http://www.freedomdomain.com/Catalog/catvideo.htm#none call it murder

---"THE DAWN OF THE NEW DAY"--From a cable program called "The Naked Truth" - Jordan Maxwell Excellent video documentary exposing the connections between Freemasonry, the Occult and Religion. This video sheds new light on a subject some call "Astrotheology" or "Worship of the Heavens". For possibly the first time on video, you can witness the solid symbolic messages that exist in every day society. Symbols for the Freemasons and the Knights Templar appear on Universities and Hospitals as well as churches. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IT'S THERE !! Charles Tess Russell, Jehova's Witness Founder was a York Rite Mason. Christian Science Founder Mary Baker Eddie's husband was A Freemason. The Knights Templar symbol (The Cross & the Crown) can be found on publications put out by both of these religious groups as well as on churches of Protestant, Lutheran or Catholic Faith. Draws many similarities to show the symbolic connection of the "Sun" to the "Son of god", Jesus Christ, the Light of the World, who is "all salvation because he has risen". The Sun gives it's life for us and dies on the cross of the Zodiac, in the cold Harsh death of the Winter Solstice, where it is said that the Sun is "Reborn" on the Sundial after 3 days of non-movement (Death), and begins it's annual journey back to the Northern Hemisphere. He states with evidence that every passage from the New Testament that applies to Jesus can be applied to the literal "Sun". Also shown is
how these same symbols exist in large corporations like Exxon, Arco, Chevron, Shell, CBS and a number of others. We are no longer in the Dark Ages so it should be no surprise that this information would come to Light.

Jordan Maxwell (Researcher) starts out by explaining how "CHAOS" in society is "CONTROLLED" by Secret Societies. The moto is "ORDO AB CHAO" or "Order out of Chaos". He explains how gangs, violence and the proliferation of drugs on the streets is silently "Allowed" and promoted by secret factions within the U.S. government and in other countries. He goes on to show different meanings and messages in the Dollar Bill such as the "Eye in the Pyramid", which is the symbol for a secret society called the Bavarian Illuminati that was banned by the Elector of Bavaria in Germany in the late 1700's because it was
exposed that they had planned to use the Masonic Lodges to convert members to Illuminism in a scheme to control the world through massive Chaos and revolution. The documents even exist today in the British Museum, according to Maxwell. He points out the 32 and 33 feathers on the Eagle, which symbolize the two highest degrees in Freemasonry, and explains the meaning of "Annuit Coeptus" and "Novus Ordo Seclorum" (New World Order). Also shown are symbolic connections in names of places and popular movies. : The York Rite Masons coming over here to the New World from York , England, established New York and the Empire State. "The Empire Strikes Back" Who is in Control ? -CHAOS or CONTROL (Get Smart)--Still don't believe in the Illuminati and conspiracies?, well George Washington did. You can read what he thought about the instigators of mishap and propaganda within his own ranks, who he alluded to as possibly being emmissaries from "New York" in the chapter titled "On the Masons and Illuminati" about his own diaries. Also included is evidence of a Senate investigation and congressional records that prove that the U.S. Congress is aware of the existence of this conspiracy and even came to the conclusion, as anyone who investigated this subject in depth would, that the 10 tenets of Communism are identical to the 10 points of Illuminism that Adam Weishaupt sought to instill in society. A small amount of time is spent showing how religion is a product of Masonic control. Secret society symbols appear on churches of all denominations.

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posted 02-28-2002 03:14 PM            

I also heard that there are only 2 obelisks(?) of that size?... one is the DC monument, and the other (not as tall) is somewhere else, like the Vatican? or Egypt, can't recall that either for sure.

posted 09-14-2002 10:59 PM            

Check this out...

The Order of the Assassins

It has been claimed that hashish played a leading role in the Ismaeli sect of Islam, the Order of the Assasins. Founded by Hasan I Sabbah in eleventh century Afganistan, its followers were completely unafraid of death. They were certain that they would, on death, be entering a wonderful heavenly realm, and they knew /I> it would be wonderful because they had already experienced it, through the 'magic' of their leader.

Robert Anton Wilson explains:

"The secret of Hasan's power - the trip to paradise given to all his followers - rested upon the powerful combination of hashish and some talented young ladies... Filled with hashish-stuffed food, the candidate for initiation was ushered into a certain Garden of Delights in Hasan's fortress temple of Alamout, high in the mountains of Afganistan. There, the ladies, pretending to be the supernatural houris described by Mohammed in his vision of heaven, performed in such a manner that the men came out of their hashish trance with very clear memories of 'divine' sexual experiences and other earthly delights. None ever doubted that they had been in heaven..."

THE GARDEN OF DELIGHTS

http://flightsimmers.net/airport/sierrahotel/delightc.jpg

THIS FAMOUS PAINTING BY HIERNONYMOUS BOSCH CALLED THE GARDEN OF DELIGHTS
DEPICTS THE PLACE WERE THE ANCIENT ISHMALITE WARLORD HASSAN I SABBAH
WOULD BRING THE NEW RECRUITS FOR THREE DAYS OF ORGIASTIC EXTACY BEFORE
INFORMING THEM THEY WERE IN HEAVEN & THAT IF THEY EVER DIED IN HIS SERVICE,
HASSAN WOULD COMMAND THE ANGELS TO RETURN THEM TO PARADISE.

HASSAN I SABBAH RECRUITED THOUSANDS OF FANATICALLY LOYAL ASSASIANS IN THIS WAY
READY TO SACRIFICE THEIR OWN LIVES WITHOUT HESITATION IN THE SERVICE OF HASSAN.
HASSAN WOULD IMPRESS VISITORS BY DEMONSTRATING THE LOYALTY OF HIS FOLLOWERS,
ORDERING THEM TO JUMP OFF MOUNTAINS OR CUT THEIR OWN THROATS.

THE ASSASINS OF ALAMOUNT WERE FEARED ALL ACROSS THE OLD WORLD.
WORKING UNDERCOVER SOMTIMES FOR YEARS IN FOREIGN ROYAL HOUSEHOLDS,
ONE DAY THE ASSASIAN WOULD RECIEVE AN ORDER TO EXECUTE THE ASSINATION.
AFTERWARDS THE ASSASIAN WOULD PATIENTLY AWAIT DISCOVERY.
IN THIS WAY HASSAN EXTORTED PROTECTION FROM MANY EVEN AS FAR AWAY AS FRANCE.

HASSAN BIN SABBAH INTRODUCED HASHISH TO EUROPE IN 1080AD.
BOTH OF THE WORDS HASHISH & ASSASIAN ARE DERIVED FROM HIS NAME.

HASSAN BELIEVED THAT THE WISE MAN'S ALTERNATIVE TO WARFARE,
PRESERVING THE PEOPLES BY KILLING THIER LEADERS,
WAS THE GREATEST ACT OF GRANDMOTHERLY KINDNESS.

posted 09-14-2002 11:31 PM            

Including Adam Weishaupt (founder of the order of illuminati), Nikola Tesla, Wilhelm Reich, and even Albert Einstein!!!

Ecclesia Gnostica Universalis

Saints of the Universal Gnostic Church

Chava (Eve)

Inanna (Sumeria)

Shiva (India)

Hermes (Greece)

Pan (Greece)

Dionysus (Greece)

Melchizedek (c. 2000 BCE)

Hatshepsut (c. 1503-1483 BCE)

Sappho (c. 613-570 BCE)

Zoroaster (c. 628-551 BCE)

Lao Tzu (c. 604-521 BCE)

Siddartha (c. 563-483 BCE)

Pythagoras (c. 569-475 BCE)

Diotima of Mantinea (c. 470-410 BCE)

Apolloneus Tyanæus (1-98/99)

Mary Magdelene (1st century)

Simon Magus (1st century)

Helen of Tyre (1st century)

Basilides (c. 100-139)

Valentinus (c. 100-175)

Bardesanes (155-233)

Hippolytus (170-235)

Zenobia (d. 273)

Mani (c. 216-276)

Hypatia of Alexandria (c. 370-415)

Pelagius (c. 354-418)

Taliesin (6th century)

Padmasambhava (8th century)

Yeshe Tsogyal (8th century)

Pope Joan (d. 857)

Machig Labdron (1055-1153)

Hildegard von Bingen (1098-1179)

Esclaremonde de Foix (1155-1240)

Jalal-e-Din Rumi (1207-1273)

Roger Bacon (1214-1294)

Jacques de Molay (1244-1314)

Raymond Lull (c. 1235-1316)

Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa (1486-1535)

Paracelsus (1494-1541)

François Rabelais (1494-1553)

Drukpa Kunley (1455-1570)

Sir Edward Kelly (1555-1595)

Giordano Bruno (1548-1600)

Queen Elizabeth the First (1533-1603)

Johannes Dee (1527-1608)

Michael Maier (1566-1622)

Jacob Boehme (1575-1624)

Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)

Robertus de Fluctibus (1574-1637)

Tsangyang Gyatso the Sixth Dalai Lama (1683-1706)

Francis Dashwood (1708-1781)

Benjamin Frankin (1706-1790)

Adam Weishaupt (1748-1811)

Sir Richard Payne Knight (1751-1824)

William Blake (1757-1827)

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)

Lady Ada Lovelace (1815-1852)

Alphonse Louis Constant (1810-1875)

Pascal Beverly Randolph (1825-1875)

Richard Wagner (1813-1883)

Ludovicus Rex Bavariæ (1845-1886)

Sir Richard Francis Burton (1821-1890)

Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)

Ida Craddock (1857-1902)

Paul Gauguin (1848-1903)

Carl Kellner (1850-1905)

Algernon Charles Swinburne (1837-1909)

Doctor Gérard Encausse (1865-1916)

Charles Henry Allan Bennett (1872-1923)

Doctor Theodore Reuss (1855-1923)

Victoria Woodhull (1838-1927)

Isadora Duncan (1878-1927)

Rose Kelly (1874-1932)

Leila Waddell (1880-1932)

Nikola Tesla (1856-1943)

Dion Fortune (1890-1946)

Aleister Crowley (1875-1947)

Frater Achad (1886-1950)

Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Jack Parsons (1914-1952)

A-Yu Khandro (1839-1953)

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

Austin Osman Spare (1886-1956)

Wilhelm Reich (1897-1957)

James Branch Cabell (1879-1958)

Jane Wolfe (1875-1958)

Carl Gustav Jung (1875-1961)

Lady Frieda Harris (1877-1962)

Neem Karoli Baba (1900-1972)

Anaïs Nin (1903-1977)

John Lennon (1940-1980)

Swami Muktananda (1908-1982)

Grady McMurtry (1918-1985)

Shri Gurudev Mahendranath (1911-1991)

Shri Shivabalayogi (1935-1994)

Marjorie Cameron (1922-1995)

Timothy Leary (1920-1996)

Idries Shah (1924-1996)

Terence McKenna (1946-2000)

John Cunningham Lilly (1915-2001)

posted 09-15-2002 02:16 AM            

I got a souvenir from the modern Knights Templar circa 1930's give or take a few years hanging on my wall Alpha.

posted 09-22-2002 11:11 AM            

And it's not by choice that we do this. The necessity is being forced by radical Islamic aggression...the ones who practice the perverted form of Islam. It is their desire to conquer the world, that necessitates our doing so instead.

posted 09-22-2002 06:40 PM            

Killing a million or so Arabs is okay because they aren't human...right?

WHO IS IN CONTROL OF THOSE IN CONTROL?

Gulf War's Dirtiest Secret

Scottsdale Tribune
Sept. 26, 1999
Barry Forbes Columnist

They suffer excruciating muscle and joint pain, debilitating headaches, chronic fatigue. They experience memory loss and blackouts lasting minutes or even hours, regaining full consciousness miles away from a fading, fleeting memory. They undergo terrifying tremors and sudden seizures, falling uncontrollably, bruising and bleeding, time and again.

Some are in wheelchairs. Some are dead. Others wish they were.

Gulf War syndrome is hell. There's simply no other word to describe it. It's not at all what "peacekeepers" imagined when they volunteered to serve their country.

To date, around 40,000 Gulf War veterans have registered with the Department of Defenses' Comprehensive Clinical Evaluation Program. Veterans Affairs says that's not nearly enough: Add another 70,000 victims to the total misery list.

What causes Gulf War syndrome? After conducting well over 100 studies and spending in excess of $100 million, the government says it simply doesn't know. But in June 1996, the Department of Defense released a blockbuster scenario. It claimed that back in March 1991, the U.S. destroyed a large cache of chemical munitions at the Khamisiya depot in Iraq. The Defense Department and the CIA released computer-generated images of a wafting, toxic plume enveloping and possibly contaminating 100,000 troops. Voila--Gulf War Syndrome.

The public swallowed the bait hook, line and sinker, but it turned out to be pure, unadulterated spin. One, the symptoms of Gulf War syndrome aren't even remotely close to the effects of chemical weapons. And two, many of those suffering from the syndrome hadn't been deployed in the Gulf.
In fact, some had never even left American shores.

What about Persian Gulf locals? There isn't a single reported case of Gulf War syndrome among the Kuwaitis, Egyptians or Israelis. So what did America's troops--and those of Canada and Great Britain--do to earn this dubious, debilitating distinction? A growing number of medical experts believe it was nothing more than rolling up their collective sleeves for the anthrax shot. (or shots to "protect" them against a possible biological attack, some received multiple inoculations.)

The world's sole supplier of anthrax vaccine is Michigan Biologic Products Institute (MBPI) of Lansing, Michigan. The "institute" has been under intense scrutiny since February 1998, when FDA inspectors visited the plant and cited it for two dozen infractions. There were serious lapses in manufacturing and quality control. Several batches of the vaccine failed the potency test. Some had expired: many were improperly re-dated. Manufacturing line areas were filthy. Production was halted for several months.
Critics went ballistic. The government responded by kicking in a couple million bucks-of our money-to spruce up the facility. But the same, highly questionable vaccine continues to be foisted upon unsuspecting troops.

The Gulf War Veterans Association has declared war on anthrax immunizations. The vets point to sky-high casualty numbers incorporating myriad systemic reactions. They talk about terrible autoimmune diseases that are not easily diagnosed or treated. They quote Lt. General Ronald Blanck, commanding officer of Walter Reed Army Medical Center: Anthrax vaccine should continue to be considered as a potential cause for undiagnosed illnesses in Persian Gulf personnel...

Attorney Mark Zaid represented the non-profit Veterans for Integrity in Government. He litigated a Freedom of Information act against the government. Among his discoveries: The first large-scale use of anthrax vaccine was the 150,000 servicemen inoculated during the Gulf War. Worse, despite government and manufacturer safety assertions to the contrary, long-term safety studies have yet to be undertaken. (Ironically, the stuff is so potent it's almost impossible to test on human beings.)

That doesn't seem to faze the military establishment. Last year, Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen approved implementation of a military-wide anthrax immunization plan-a total of six shots over 18 months plus annual boosters. A handful of armed forces personnel has declined the vaccine. Those who refuse the madness, endanger their careers and face confinement, forfeiture of pay, even dishonorable discharge. It's already happened.

There is, however, light at the end of the tunnel. Congress is considering two bills (HR2548 and HR2543) to end the forced implementation of anthrax vaccine. It's voluntary in all other countries, including our coalition partners. It should be voluntary here in America.

Military service is already a sacrifice. No one signed up to be a sacrificial lamb.

Epilog: Last September, MBPI was purchased by BioPort Corp., a company partially controlled by retired Adm. William Crowe. BioPort immediately won a two-year, $29 million Pentagon contract to make anthrax vaccine for U.S. military personnel. Translation: unless Congress acts, don't look for any sudden sea change in the status quo...

posted 09-22-2002 07:02 PM            

Your concern for the Arab world is touching....but what about the American lives that will be taken, that were taken.

You're forgetting who was attacked here. Would you rather the world was ruled by people like the Taliban or Saudi Royal Princes, who execute women in a soccer stadium because they displeased their husbands, who send women back into burning buildings to their deaths because they forgot their Muslim head wear, who cut off the heads of the infidel with a knife while laughing about it and video taping, who pour gasoline down the throats of their comrades and light it...then later enjoy the video tape of the torture?

Is this the world you want to live in? Well it's what you're going to get if the USA doesn't respond to these attacks. If the USA doesn't take action, you will see many more of these burned shells of human beings, and it will be in the nuclear fires of a bomb created in the "baby-milk" factories of Sadam Hussein this time. Only this time they will be American citizens...maybe even some of your family. Apparently you want this outcome however, because you side with the attackers over the victims, the "assassins" over America. Did you read and learn nothing in the above articles? It is the assassins who have world ambitions…apparently you’d let them succeed because your love for them is greater than your concern for America , freedom, and the innocent human lives here.

posted 09-22-2002 07:44 PM            

Anti personnel cluster bombs and their effects.....

If this war goes down, I expect terrorism and islamic fundamentalist hatred will MUSHROOM all over the world.And we may never be able to leave Iraq again. There is nothing more dangerous than someone who knows he is about to lose his country.

I agree we have a LEGITAMATE right to DEFEND ourselves, especially againt any enemy that believes we should be all dead. But being the AGGRESSOR for no legitimate reason will have SERIOUS consequenses. The fools in the White House will be safe from the aftermath--WE the American people and especilly our children will pay a terrible price.I have a terrible feeling that the next war may be the people of the earth, against the United States.

Mech