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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 01-26-2002 10:13 AM
  
The limits they want to put on population sounds like that ZPG (Zero Population Growth) org that you may remember from a 20 or so years ago? http://www.zpg.org/ http://www.charitablechoices.org/ZPG/ That kind of sounded like a TPTB/Illuminati front organization, when I heard about it in the 80's. Involving abortion, famine, warfare, chemtrails{?). Or maybe ZPG is legit, a kinder softer limit on population growth by voluntary means? This thread on Illuminati also reminds me of Evergreen Aviation (CIA front) using C-130's in Africa to spray/exterminate the 'black fly'? In earlier CTC threads (2000), we've had indications that Evergreen has been involved in chemtrail operations too.
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BOB B
Senior Member
LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 02-05-2002 12:46 AM
LOL, the black fly!!! My dad always told me the best place to hide something is right in the open!
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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!
Greenwich, CT, USA
472 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 02-05-2002 07:44 PM
As my momma once told me. Never join a group that would want to have you as a member especially a supposedly secret organization like these twits.Something just ain't right here.
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-05-2002 09:33 PM
Now I really have seen everything. The Illuminati recruiting people? Now what's wrong with this picture? They must be getting really desperate to do something like this. Only a $10 membership fee too? - They're up to something. - Keep an eye on them.Oh and Krissa, you are definitely right about that one.
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Chem11
megasprayer news
The Homeland
1366 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 02-05-2002 10:13 PM
Speaking of front organizations, you ever hear of the National Institute for Discovery Science, Defender?
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-05-2002 10:54 PM
I don't know about Defender, but I have heard of NIDS. Some organization run by a millionare investigating fringe topics. Not sure what their track record or credibility rating is yet. They do supposedly have trained scientists and equipment for analyzing samples of stuff though.
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MASTERMIND
New Member
31 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-06-2002 10:44 AM
The site is obviously a hoax.The illuminati, which is supposed to be a secret orgnization that has been in existance for several thousand years should have the means and connections to recruit all the "right" people for their NWO. Charging $95 for a membership and $10 to post on their forum is a smart mans idea to capitalize on those who believe everything they read. The real Illuminati would recruit via means of Universities/Institutions instead of letting any joe blow to gain membership simply by coughing up $95.
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-06-2002 11:58 AM
That could be true mastermind, but every organization needs cannon fodder. Also makes it easier for the hard core crowd to be harder to find. As with in any racial group, organization, etc. there are always people who wannabe them. In this case, the wannabe's seem to be getting the opprotunity
to mingle with the regular crowd. Also from time to time, any organization needs new members and this may be an attempt to gain a few new members and use the cannon fodder as sort of a brainwashed shield. In certain groups, such as the Masons, there are many different levels and there is a considerable difference between a 1st degree mason and a 32nd or higher degree mason.
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Dry Cough
Senior Member
Salem OR Marion
67 posts, May 2001
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posted 02-12-2002 04:52 PM
As far as the controlling the population, you have to remember that these "enlightened" ones think that China's one child per family policy is the way for the whole world to go - forced abortion and sterilization. There are a lot of stories of the brutality of Chinese women who don't want to submit to the state's laws regarding this and the horror of the butchery that goes on to achieve it, and the NOW ladies and people like Madeleine Albright talk about what a responsible country China is to do this to their ladies. Makes me think of that Christopher Lambert sci fi flick, FORTRESS which depicts a future society where the US doesn't allow more than one child, and he and his wife have miscarried their first but that "counts" so they are not allowed to have another, and while they are trying to escape to Mexico (where in the film you can apparently still have more than one child illegally but without necessarily being imprisoned) he and his wife are dragged off to a high security prison and the women's children are taken from them and turned into Borg-like robotic hybrids. One wonders if the sci fi writers get some of their ideas out of the Illuminati's own mouths - sort of like Fabian socialist Huxley and his Brave New World.
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 11:08 AM
Dry Cough, I think 'intel' groups/Illuminati do use screenwriters, producers, studios for ideas and also to promote their ideas to the mass public. I also believe that some movies have 'triggers' designed to set-off MK-ULTRA victims to commit crimes. Also used for the more mundane typical propaganda operations.Chem11, I think I've heard of NIDS, if it was the one connected with Senator Claiborne Pell? and the Rockefeller family? I've met someone who attended a conference at the Rockefeller mansion in New York (I think). I was hoping they were good guys, but who knows? NIDS is also supposedley connected to the 'Aviary' group (12 members who use the names of birds as their codenames, like Owl, Robin etc.) which may also be synonymous with Majestic-12 related to UFO/ET government interaction. Members are super top secret and change from generation to generation, but always consist of 12 members.
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 02-13-2002 12:14 PM
The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS) http://www.nidsci.org/
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BOB B
Senior Member
LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 02-13-2002 01:40 PM
i COULDNT HELP BUT NOTICE THE ILLUMANATI SYMBOL IN THIS PAGE, ITS EVERYWHERE NPO, ON OUR MONEY, ON THE AOL WINDOW, AND HERE ALSO
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 04:36 PM
I see what you mean Bob B... you mean the symbol at the NIDS website. But is it Illuminati symbolism, or Freemason symbolism? or is that the same thing?
Guess what, I just saw it again at this site;
http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/nibirumessages.html
This site was posted by a member here whose posts are always interesting. The symbol (triangle) is used in lots of advertising & corporate logos, businesses etc. (even Alcholics Anonymous uses the triangle!)... but the thing is, you can't always know for sure when it's a real masonic/Illuminati symbol, or when it's just a triangle? or an 'eye', or an owl etc. But it does make me think twice about the company as to what their logo may mean. I can see how some of them may have links to masons/illuminati, but it seems that you still can't always be sure. Or if it's good or bad? The whole thing is a mystery to me, that's for sure!
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 05:29 PM
I've spoken to one of the members of the board here at NIDS; http://www.nidsci.org/personnel.html
... and I've tried to reach the chairman of the board in Austin regarding my experiences in Los Angeles in the 80's related to Stanford Research Institute (which I understand now was co-opted by the CIA) when they were initially involved in remote-viewing.
I suppose that Senator Pell is probably deceased by now? John Schuesller has given lectures near Clear Lake/Galveston/Johnson Space Center regarding UFO's, Zero Point energy and alien propulsion systems. I know there have been deaths related to these things because they have been perceived as a threat to TPTS (in regards to the status quo petro-chemical stranglehold they have over the worlds econmony). I don't think the triangle is necessarily a negative sign of illuminati darkness? but in some cases, maybe symbolic of the forces of light trying to free the people to the truth? Maybe Freemasons are a positive side of the Illuminati?? or if not, there must be 'renegades' or positive forces who have the knowledge, but want to use it for positive purposes, and not deception and control? The name Rockefeller often has a negative connotation, (as part of TPTB) but maybe the one connected with NIDS was the white sheep of the family? Who knows? Don't mind me, I'm just free-associating. 
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KrissaTMC2
Never Surrender!
Greenwich, CT, USA
472 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 02-13-2002 05:57 PM
< !--StartFragment-->ILLUMINATI
-- To the tune of "Eleanor Rigby"
11-07-88
Steve Jackson, Joe Vail, Creede LambardIlluminati...
They put a thing made of tinfoil on top of my door...
What is it for?
Illuminati...
Shooting a ray at my cornflakes to make them turn green...
What does it mean?
The Illuminati... They're watching me, I know.
The Illuminati... They're everywhere I go. Illuminati...
Doing unspeakable things in the night to a cow...
Where are they now?
Illuminati...
Sent an impostor in place of the Popsicle man...
What is their plan?
The Illuminati... They're watching me, I know.
The Illuminati... They're everywhere I go. Illuminati...
They cancelled Star Trek, The Fonz, and My Mother, the Car...
Are they bizarre?
You can't escape them;
Even if you take a plane to Nepal or Peru...
They'll be there, too...
The Illuminati... They're watching me, I know.
The Illuminati... They're everywhere I go. I know that they know all about me...
They know that I know all about them... Illuminati...
Hide their assassins' instructions in newspaper text...
Who will be next?
They're all around us...
Underline every third word in the Times and you'll see...
How can it be?
The Illuminati... They're watching me, I know.
The Illuminati... They're everywhere I go. They're in the attic and the cellar...
Bigger than Hunt or Rockefeller... Illuminati...
Go through my garbage and count all the pop bottles there...
Why do they care?
They're out to get me...
They're fluoridating my water from their UFO...
What do they know?
The Illuminati... They're everywhere, I see.
The Illuminati... And no one knows but me.
http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/~boogles/Illuminati/
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-13-2002 06:09 PM
Hey, Krissa, another Beatles fan!That reminds me of The Dream Police by Cheap Trick! One of my all-time favorites! _____________________________________________ BTW, I was looking at the NIDS website's FAQ page and found this;
Q: Does NIDS investigate reports of contrails or "chem-trails"?
A: No. Recently there have been reports of airplanes allegedly spraying various urban areas, and some reports of subsequent illness thought to be associated with this activity. NIDS is not involved in researching this issue. Please do not call NIDS with reports or inquiries related to "chem-trails." Hmmmmmmm... Maybe they're not good guys after all??  Maybe they have orders to stay away, in the interests of self-preservation? I couldn't blame them for that. They're involved in the study of UFO's, cattle mutilations... maybe they know that chemtrails are man-made and so, not part of what they investigate. Maybe it would be like asking them to investigate Aspartame/NutraSweet or the tobacco industry?
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BOB B
Senior Member
LINDEN ,TEXAS,CASS
307 posts, Jan 2002
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posted 02-14-2002 01:28 AM
The post with the Illuminati song reminded me of this song, its a song played imeadiatly before almost all sporting events,it was played right before the opening face off of most of my own hockey games while I was in the minor hockey league, I always wonder why! Its known to everyone, in fact, Ill bet the following words are emblazened on your subconcience...................................Alan Parsons Project- "The Eye in the Sky"...here are a few lyrics from the song, which is also the Chicago Bulls theme song!...........[ "I am the eye in the sky, looking at you, I can read your mind, I am the maker of rules,dealing with fools, I can cheat you blind"]...["Ive heard all the acusations,The Sun in your eyes makes some of the lies worth believing"]..............Also worth noting, if this song is played as an mp3 file on the windows media player, and the osiloscope funtion is selected(its called "Bars and waves:scope"} , the waveform is pointed,instead of smoothly curved like the electronic waveforms of most musical notes, and they appear as pyramids on the scope...thats right,what appears to be pyramids are hidden in the waveforms of this music!
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-14-2002 09:51 AM
Wow, that is strange. I remember that song by Alan Parson Project. I was always curious about that unusual name for a band, but I didn't pay attention to those lyrics until you brought them up. It does seem to fit into the Illuminati picture. Eye in the sky, maker of rules, like they meant it as a warning that couldn't be made openly as well as in music? Their only other big hit as I recall was something to do with Edgar Allan Poe stories? They never seemed to fit into a category of rock bands. Maybe they were never intended to be just a 'progressive' rock band?!
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-14-2002 10:15 AM
Eye In The SkyAlan Parson Project (Lead vocal - Eric Woolfson)
Don't think sorry's easily said
Don't try turning tables instead
You've taken lots of Chances before
But I'm not gonna give anymore
Don't ask me
That's how it goes
Cause part of me knows what you're thinkin'Don't say words you're gonna regret
Don't let the fire rush to your head
I've heard the accusation before
And I ain't gonna take any more
Believe me
The sun in your Eyes
Made some of the lies worth believing Chorus:
I am the eye in the sky
Looking at you
I can read your mind
I am the maker of rules
Dealing with fools
I can cheat you blind
And I don't need to see any more
To know that
I can read your mind, I can read your mind Don't leave false illusions behind
Don't Cry cause I ain't changing my mind
So find another fool like before
Cause I ain't gonna live anymore believing
Some of the lies while all of the Signs are deceiving. ____________________________________________ Here's another;
PyramaniaLead Vocal: Jack Harris There are pyramids in my head
There's one underneath my bead
And my lady's getting cranky
Every possible location
Has a simple explanation
And it isn't hanky-panky I had read
Somewhere in a book, they improve all your food and your wine
It said, that everything you grow in your garden would taste pretty fine
Instead, all I ever get is a pain in the neck and a
Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap I've consulted all the sages
I could find in the yellow pages
But there aren't many of them
And the Myan panoramas
On my pyramid pajamas
Haven't helped my little problem
I've been told
Someone in the know can be sure that his luck is as
Good as gold, money in the bank and you don't even pay for it
If you fold, a dollar bill in the shape of the pyramid that's printed on the
back
It's no lie
You can keep the edge of a razor as sharp as an
Eagle's eye, you can grow a hedge that is vertically straight over
Ten feet high, all you really need is a pyramid and just a little luck
I had read, somewhere in a book, they improve all your food and wine
I'd been told, someone in the know can be sure of his good luck
It's no lie, all you need is a little bit of pyramidic help
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 02-14-2002 11:02 AM
Here's another one. ( We need to put this on your other thread defender)Some Other Time
Lead Vocal: Peter Straker In a matter of a moment
Lost till the end of time
It's the evening of another day
And the end of mine Now the starlight which has found me
Lost for a million years
Tries to linger as it fills my eyes
Till it disappears Could it be that somebody else is
Looking into my mind Some other place
Somewhere
Some other time Some other place
Somewhere
Some other time Like a mirror held before me
Large as the sky is wide
And the image is reflected
Back to the other side Could it be that somebody else is
Looking into my mind Some other place
Somewhere
Some other time Some other place
Somewhere
Some other time Weird.
I had an old hippie art teacher in high school that liked to play 'I Robot'all the time. I never liked The Alan Parsons Project, and always thought it odd that an old hippie would. Not very peace, love, dove.
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penumbra
quarky
North Carolina
668 posts, Apr 2001
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posted 02-14-2002 11:08 AM
I thought we were starting to seriously thread-drift. After seeing this, I changed my mind. Here's the picture on the cover of Eye in the Sky: 
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-14-2002 11:39 AM
Yikes!! Looks like BobB's onto something there with the Alan Parson Project as far as Mason/Illuminati imagery etc.?Seems like they're (APP) clued in... to something. There's another one by APP called 'Children of the Moon', that seems to refer to the rejection of satanic (Golden Dawn) rituals. Another one of the secret societies related to sun worship. Those other song lyrics, 'Some Other Time' you posted Penumbra sound a lot like Remote Viewing.
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hooligan
Senior Member
Seattle
76 posts, Feb 2002
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posted 02-14-2002 11:42 AM
The Egyptian eye symbol, the "udjat"
Also known as the "eye of Horus"There is a long story but the short of it is that this symbol came to represent the process of making whole, healing.
The eye of Horus became associated with the sun and the moon. The left eye is the moon, the right the sun.
How is it associated with the Illuminati?
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defender
TELEVISION IS MIND CONTROL
Level 64
1115 posts, Oct 2000
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posted 02-14-2002 11:51 AM
I'm not as sure about the Illuminati, Hooligan, but the 'eye of Horus' is important in Masonic symbolism as it's related to the ancient Egyptian and pre-Egyptian culture. Golden Dawn and other secret societies are involved in sun rituals, supposedly even the Catholic church ceremonies are based on a Roman sun worship, including holy communion, body and blood sacrifice, even the name of the day 'Sunday'? (I don't want to put down Catholics, I was raised as one myself, but I believe that some of it's ceremonies are ancient rituals that have lost their meaning to members over the years).I would like to see more about the differences or connections between Masons and the Illuminati. I've wondered if they are different sides of the same coin? or more closely related in beliefs?
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Dan Rockwell
Hoka hey! - heyokas!
Stamford, CT, USA
1750 posts, Dec 2001
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posted 02-14-2002 12:49 PM
This is turning out to be an interesting topic. I have noticed a lot of egyption symbology used by the Catholic church as well as by some of the secret societies. As far as I know, the priests of the old Egyptian religion, instead of becoming extinct, formed cults and secret societies and had their knowledge passed down from generation to generation. The pyramid, the Eye of Horus, etc. would seem to indicate that they are still with us.
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