posted 01-24-2002 02:32 PM            

However, don't spend too much time worrying about what will or will not happen. We have to worry about only one thing: ourselves.

posted 01-24-2002 03:10 PM            

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1. All prime directives are of equal importance regardless of how they are listed (There are some deep secrets behind the reasoning for these directives, only made available to Illuminati Members).

2. Humanity must survive at all costs

What this means, is that all measures must be taken to ensure this, and this is a need which outweighs the rights of the individual/individual rights.

3. Planet earth must be protected at all costs.

Same as above.

4. The most intelligent and educated humans are superior to all others and they must reproduce with others at all costs and must be protected at all cost.

Basically, all this means, is that we seek to establish a hybrid human race, devoid of nationalism and racism. Studies show that children of mixed races are more intelligent and healthier overall.

5. Logic and reason must be the foundation of all speech and teachings at all costs.

This means that no fairy tales must be permitted to be taught to children or anyone. Opinions must be stated as being such, and the idea of ghosts and spirits are concepts based in irrationality and stupidity. There must be supportive evidence for everything involving education and higher learning.
Society must be cleansed of superstition etc.

6. No human may hold a superior position unless he or she has obtained degrees in physics and biology.

This is because those whom are educated in these fields, posses a higher understanding of reality, and thus posses an advanced/developed mind. Education breeds education and enlightenment.

7. The population of planet earth must be reduced to 3 billion and maintained at approximately that number(until such time when our Enlightened Society is in place and all the family names of our enemies are wiped off the planet).

The basis for this is, prosperity, security and well being of not only society, but all life forms on our planet, and our beloved planet itself. The reduction in population is to be done through education of the need for this. Of course there are other means, and mother nature and diseases will help us in this regard.

8. All human males and females should be sterilized as soon as they reach puberty, to protect them from premature and unwanted births.

Unlike some uneducated fools think, women can still have babies, even with their tubes tied, but not accidentally and men can have their sterilization reversed once they are mature, educated and able to support children financially.

9. All criminals must be used for productivity science research and experiments. Criminals are to be given options to choose if they wish to work or which scientific experiments they are willing to be part of.

This is self explanatory.

10. Science and scientists must be the only governing body of planet Earth and humanity.

This is so that intelligent people compose the ruling class, not religionists and politicians. What we will achieve with this, is a system of law and order, not political and religionist mind games.

11. Politics and politicians must be eliminated at all costs.

This is because in a society of Objectivists, there is no room for politicians. The society of the future will be ruled by the enlightened, together with society, which too will be enlightened and highly educated.

12. Farmers may own up to 10,000 acres of land and must never be taxed as long as they utilize their farms for farming (until all is set in place).

This is because they provide the essentials of survival, and is to be considered a sacred matter. Farmers are not to be belittled in any way. Not all fields require degrees in physics, and it does not devalue any one human being, overall.

13. Genetic engineering must be one of the most supported fields.
If you do not understand this, it is not for you to understand.

14. All governmental bodies must be under the command of persons with degrees in physics and biology and chemistry.
Read above.

15. All lower life forms must be protected at all cost and scientific research must take this into consideration.
Self explanatory.

16. Humans must not be permitted to consume any type of flesh.
Killing other life forms, simply because we like the taste, is barbaric, and is rooted in savagery. Furthermore, consuming other animals introduces all forms of bacteria, diseases and microbes into the human body, which can eventually produce a soup of the most deadly viruses. There is no need to kill other animals, to eat, or for any other reason. The only exception is when one's life is endangered by an animal, and even then, alternative measures should be seriously considered or to save a human life.(There is a great secret behind this directive, only available to Illuminati Members).

17. Should an alien being(s) visit our planet or should we encounter other aliens humanity must consider them superior to us and must protect and never harm them unless they pose an obvious threat and immediate to our kind.
Self explanatory. Furthermore, if such is to take place, chances are, they would be superior to us in both knowledge and evolution.

18. Nationalism, religion and racism must be eliminated at all costs.
Self explanatory.

19. All types of humans (nationalities) must procreate with each other at all costs.
This simply means that when one does decide to have children, it should be with people of another "race" (lack of a better word). This does NOT mean everyone should immediately do this. Just if and when.

20. Anyone who is against the Prime directives must be neutralized at all costs.
This is an internal matter, and for the digestion of the Illuminati Order, and its members.

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posted 01-24-2002 03:51 PM            

Looks to me like the Illuminati elite,, just want to continue experimenting on life forms,,, and creating 'new' life forms,, and be open about it, instead of all the secrecy they have hidden behind for the thousands of years (not 300,, right there,, thats disinfo) they have been doing just that.
Sounds like they just want to rule the world, with no interference of a government for the "Real rights" for individuals.
They make it sound logical,,, but where is the real compassion?
They say we as a human race aren't ready yet for a non-governmental existance. So they want to move in an take over and just tell us whats good for us, .... just like it's always been anyway,,,
Don't get me wrong,,, I am not anti-government. All I want is an honest one that truly does work for the individuals rights. I haven't seen that in a long, long time.

posted 01-24-2002 04:06 PM            

That and they make my skin crawl. Yech!

posted 01-24-2002 04:35 PM            

That site does seem hoax-y, but I did a "whois" on the domain name to find out who registered it. This is what I came up with:

Server used for this query:
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posted 01-25-2002 09:54 AM            

Thermit's Illuminati (TI) say:
"Humanity must survive at all costs
What this means, is that all measures must be taken to ensure this, and this is a need which outweighs the rights of the individual/individual rights." [Emphasis mine]
"Planet earth must be protected at all costs.
Same as above."
"No human may hold...."
"The population of planet earth must be reduced...."
"All human males and females should be sterilized..."
"All criminals must be used for...."
"Science and scientists must be the only governing body...."
"Farmers may own up to 10,000 acres of land and must never be taxed.... [Emphasis mine].

In other words, we see a supposed intellectual meritocracy that is only a thin veneer over a chilling fascism (unless, of course, you're one of the fascists).

The website Illuminati (WSI), on the other hand, sound like any objectivist or libertarian in that the only role they see for government is the protection and sustainment of individual rights. In such a governance, you wouldn't see the government undertaking any plan which would harm your ability to live your lives as you see fit; this would mean freedom from any government spraying, electro-magnetic mischief á là HAARP, etc. (It would also mean freedom from the government imposing minimum wages, OSHA regulations, laws against victimless crimes, income taxes, import tariffs against products from China, etc., etc.).

I would certainly take up arms against the TI; yet the WSI sound like a pretty benign (although a bit arrogant) bunch of idealists.

The question is: which of the Illuminati (if either) is the real one?

Regards,

posted 01-25-2002 11:56 AM            

I wasn't implying that you were an Illuminatus LOL. I was referring to the list of characteristics on your previous post. It seems to me that the objectives that you quoted and the 'guiding philosophies' from the Illuminati website were from a different set of guys.

posted 01-25-2002 04:15 PM            

14. All governmental bodies must be under the command of persons with degrees in physics and biology and chemistry.

posted 01-25-2002 04:54 PM            

As far as the Illuminati though, there does seem to be something to that. Like maybe these are The Powers That Be? Or at least part of them? I'm sure that there have been vast amounts of suppression of history (ancient and recent) for purposes unknown... (to maintain the status quo of the current power elite)?

That is a real mystery, not sure about how they're related to FreeMasons other than that they're a secret society? Maybe we'll get some more posts about them.